Should I go with Shadowstep Build? or Seal Fate/Pre Med?Follow

Hey guys,

I was a combat build, but decided to respec to sub build, it does not do as much damage as the combat build and i dont like how i do very little damage. I want a build that does good sustained damage, with fairly good burst damage but mostly i want the highest sustained damage, it also has to be fun to play (preferably not combat), Was thinking maybe a Shadowstep build, or Seal Fate/Pre Med for lots of CP? Or a mutiliate build maybe..

I need help as this is my first rogue, i am currently lvl 46 and plan to do a bit of PvPing but i also need to be able to kill monsters in PvE quickly if possible.

Or should i stick with Combat build for leveling like everyone says?

Cheers, Speed

Edited, Jan 7th 2008 3:09am by Speedburst

So mutilate even for leveling? People have said mutilate isnt good for leveling.. is this true?

Some guy in this forum told me that SF is crit heavy and resilience gimps crit. The word sex is in his name though, and I am pretty sure he is one of those deviated preverts.

aaannnd EDIT: Shadowstep is nice for leveling in outlands. The decreased damage output compared to combat is noticeble, but the survivability/mobility is crazy (also having imp sprint in the utility belt). You have more cooldowns than you can blow on a week in Vegas. In the 64-67 level range, I can even escape gank attempts by 70's.

Edited, Jan 7th 2008 10:39am by DrMayhem

I've been leveling with an assassination build, and it's been doing well for me. Granted, I've never tried Combat so I don't know how it compares. You do generate combo points really fast, so even though you may not do as much white damage as with a Combat build, you can still kill mobs quickly. The only problem is that Mutilate is poison-dependant, so you may have a little more trouble with poison-immune mobs. I'd say try it out and see if you like it. I have heard that a ShadowStep build is really great for PvP, but it's not so good for leveling or instances. So take your pick.

Shadowstep can be fun but I don't think it's for everyone. From my experience so far, my 62 Rogue can take down a level 62 mob and only drop down about 1000hp (and usually even less) and still have to wait a bit at times for Shadowstep's cooldown to finish. I'm really dependent on crits though so a string of non-crits slows me down quite a bit. I'm still not fully in Outland gear yet so I'm sure my performance will improve a lot as I gear up.

Even though I'm still playing sub spec, I have learned a lot by reading the forums here and just adding SnD and Kidney Shot to my usual routine has helped me a ton in killing mobs faster with less damage to myself. I'm still refining my build and my sequences but I'm doing so much better (and having more fun) than I was 10 levels ago.

If I was just in a hurry to level or if I was heading into endgame raiding, I would change my spec to something more normal but since my Rogue is a 'fun' alt that I'm taking my time leveling, Shadowstep has been pretty fun for me so far.

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A crippling OH was to allow for kiting while waiting for those two energy ticks. To me a mutilate build is all about not getting hit while doling out the pain. With crippling on, you can back up a bit while you wait for the energy and make sure you are going to get a KS + 2 x Mutilate before the stun wears off.

I used WikiWikiDPS in my Titan bar to get the combat info and I averaged them out over 10 fights.

And as I mentioned, with deadly it is a little harder (doable, but harder) to gouge and mutilate in situations where your Kidney shot is resisted. With Eviscerate all you need is CPs, which come easily in this build, but Envenom adds that extra variable of keeping an eye on your poison stack as well.