2.3.2 patch notes = huh?Follow

The 2.3.2 patch notes say:



I just have to wonder what they are doing with this change. Isn't an AR/Prep build absolutely devastating? What will it become now? Just AR? Just Prep? They also buffed Shadowstep again, and Sinister Calling as well, tempting players to delve into the deepest parts of Sub possible.





This may not come as news to some of you, as the 2.3.2 patch notes have been available for some time, but after just seeing this moments ago and not seeing any threads about it so far, it made me wonder why on earth they were changing this. Perhaps they're thinking to reinvent the current FotM build. I don't know.

Edit: Thinking about it after the fact, you would probably still want an AR/Prep build for the other CD management even though you'd only get one AR from it. Ho hum.

Edited, Jan 3rd 2008 8:56pm by cnewlin

http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/class.html?wclass=4;mid=119765128871927773;num=59;page=1

http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/class.html?wclass=4;mid=1196590092139168141;num=86;page=1

the threads have been and gone.

we all hate it, except for the select few who like ShS for some reason.

Oops. My apologies. I thought it was odd why I didn't see a post about it. My mistake. This thread can die in peace now.

Patch 2.3.2 kills HARP build. Nerfed the base damage of hemo but added a talent change to sinister calling, bumping the hemo damage up to about where it used to be. Couple this with removing AR from prep and HARP builds are dead. They're trying to buff subtlety, but the current problem with it is its DPS sucks and the patch isn't really doing anything to address that.

In short:

2.3.2 = HARP Nerf, Subtlety fix so the 41 point talent actually works.

the hemo buff was meant to make FULL SUB usable

not ar/prep dominant

moving the hemo buff to tier 8, and having it reset step is a great help

is ar off prep too much? yes imo

but **** it

i can not wait for ar/prep to die

imp sprint woudlnt affect shadowstep, its more for landing that shiv on someone runnign dead forward


honestly im looking forward to it, since travel form druids wont escape step/ks anymore

FTFY.

So...what exactly is HARP? Is it Prep/AR?

the hemo nerf hurts but you can easily go back to SS, the thing that eats at me is the constant nerfs to prep, they really should just remove it from the game altogether and replace it with something. (going back to SS from hemo hurts, CP gen is so slow i instantly spec'd back to hemo)

prep use to reset everything, then was nerfed and did half, now it's been nerfed again and really aint worth taking, how many ppl spec for cold blood and prep? so thats useless, then how about our broken vanish? not really worth it, so really all you get out of prep is evasion and sprint; this is how i saw it when i spec'd for it cause you cant rely on vanish to work, but you could count on the extra sprint and evasion.. also ar, now its gone and i really dont feel its worth the one point for a reset on two abilities.

also who really feels a five minute CD is worth it for a talent that has a bloody 30CD on it to start with, im sorry but adding Shstep to it is a joke due to the short CD of it to start with; it would be a bit less of a nerf if they added CloS to it, quite a few times ive found myself hitting my key for cloak and it being down... but even that being on a 5min CD is a bit pointless.

worse thing i think is that mages had a rogues prep in tier two which has now been moved to the 4th tier still one below, but i believe the CD on it has now been shorten because of this move, so they eat a tiny nerf by the move; yet gain cause of the shorter CD... ice block for all mages? lovely.

prep in its PTR form should be a 2-3 min CD i think.

Honestly...We don't know yet. The rogue community still isn't really sure quite what to spec. Some are going Combat Maces, some are thinking of staying AR/Prep(still lots of survivability), some are even thinking of going Shs or Mutilate. No one is really sure just how to spec with all these various nerfs, but Combat Maces is a solid build and will play at least vaguely similarly to AR/Prep.