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I just hit 41 today and got my first mount. It seems a lot slower than I expected. In fact, I ran around with it, then changed to travel form, and my TF seemed to run faster than my mount. What gives? And does anyone know the exact percentages of normal run speed they are? I think TF is 140% and Cat is 130% with the abilities set. What percentage is mount?
You must be a night elf? My cat mount felt incredibly slower than my travel form too. But it's not. I think the animations for the mounts were designed for the elite version, so the basic ones just feel like they are in slow-motion. Travel form is +40% while your mount is +60%.
Elite mount will be +100%
Flight form will be +60%
Elite flight form will be +280%
Edit: I type too fast and forget stuff :P
Edited, Jan 3rd 2008 9:58am by PhoenixOmbre
Elite mount will be +100%
Flight form will be +60%
Elite flight form will be +280%
Edit: I type too fast and forget stuff :P
Edited, Jan 3rd 2008 9:58am by PhoenixOmbre
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PhoenixOmbre wrote:
You must be a night elf? My cat mount felt incredibly slower than my travel form too. But it's not. I think the animations for the mounts were designed for the elite version, so the basic ones just feel like they are in slow-motion.
ITA that the animations are weird. I have horses and every time I see an elekk or a cat (either regular or epic) I think there is no way that's the same speed as mine. :)
I still use travel form vs. the mount sometimes, when picking herbs or running short distances or if I just want to kill stuff along the way and don't feel like mounting/dismounting.
if you think its bad as nelf, try a tauren. going from travel form to kodo is like going from fast, zippy dirt bike to a land rover. youre just plodding along, praying to mu'sha that the tooltip is right and you actually are going +60% or +100% instead of +40%....but you cant shake the feeling that youre moving much slower.
i think its an animation thing. four big plodding legs vs four small, quickly moving legs. gives the illusion of greater speed with the smaller legs vs the bigger ones.
i think its an animation thing. four big plodding legs vs four small, quickly moving legs. gives the illusion of greater speed with the smaller legs vs the bigger ones.
Quor wrote:
if you think its bad as nelf, try a tauren. going from travel form to kodo is like going from fast, zippy dirt bike to a land rover. youre just plodding along, praying to mu'sha that the tooltip is right and you actually are going +60% or +100% instead of +40%....but you cant shake the feeling that youre moving much slower.
i think its an animation thing. four big plodding legs vs four small, quickly moving legs. gives the illusion of greater speed with the smaller legs vs the bigger ones.
i think its an animation thing. four big plodding legs vs four small, quickly moving legs. gives the illusion of greater speed with the smaller legs vs the bigger ones.
This happens in FFXI too; I play a Tarutaru by trade, and am absolutely convinced that my galka and elvaan mules run slower.
Edit: I'll say though that when I'm running around oldworld to collect herbs, I totally just do it in travel form. I highly doubt I'm saving much time with the increased run speed over having to dismount/remount every time I find an herb.
Edited, Jan 3rd 2008 3:52pm by Norellicus
Lol - I was about to say you must be Tauren :) That kodo seems really slow to me :) I actually ride around the AV kitty because it seems to move faster (even though they are the same speed).
Then again, everything seems slow when you have epic flight form. Going on to my alts who don't have mounts yet is particularly painful!
Then again, everything seems slow when you have epic flight form. Going on to my alts who don't have mounts yet is particularly painful!
Kodo's seem way slow, but so does a plane 30,000 feet in the air. Now that I got epic land form, I don't use travel form as much, but I still do. I almost always used travel form before when I had my slow and crappy level 40 mount.
Having my drood at almost 50, not yet with epic land, even with mount I tend to still use travel form more to move around then mount. I see what the diferences are as looks versus actual travel time.. but, I just like to view myself running as a cat then on one.
Mounted is definately faster, despite appearance. For proof, just go into any battleground or party and watch the mounted slowly pull away from you.
Travel form still has it's advantages, though. You can't be dismounted and it's an instant cast. So if I have to go shorter distances, or will be making stops along the way (to skin or pick flowers), I'll use travel. Looking like I'm plodding along on my kodo is bad, waiting the 2 seconds or whatever it is for me to pull it out of my pocket is worse.
Travel form still has it's advantages, though. You can't be dismounted and it's an instant cast. So if I have to go shorter distances, or will be making stops along the way (to skin or pick flowers), I'll use travel. Looking like I'm plodding along on my kodo is bad, waiting the 2 seconds or whatever it is for me to pull it out of my pocket is worse.
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It is also due to size as well. Looking at my rogue (troll btw) having him run with sprint does look a lot faster... getting that shrink poison in ghostlands means that he is now gnomish sized. Doing sprint on that makes it feel like you are doing about 1000mph! Travel form is small and so feels faster!
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Elite mount will be +100%
Flight form will be +60%
Elite flight form will be +280%
Isn't flight form +80%?
Anyway, I thought that too, being a Night Elf. The fact that I levelled Feral didn't help, since I'd gained +15%, +15%, +10% and then another 20%. It's just little jumps that don't really make a difference. Whereas if you played a Priest for example, 100% to 160% would seem godly.
Also it's the strides if you're NE. It's the same when you compare cat and cheetah form, the legs move differently in the second because it was designed to move at 40% increased speed, constantly. Whereas you have to spend talents to increase cat to 30%.
Edited, Jan 7th 2008 1:21pm by Erenyin
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Isn't flight form +80%?
I’m afraid not. A druid’s first flight form uses the same basic flight skill as every other class and that’s back to the old +60% bonus. But a druid’s ability to cast it instantly is a heck of a lot of fun.
My druid got his flight form about a week ago. Before that I figured I’d just buy a regular epic mount as it was unlikely that I’ll be able to do the quests required for my epic flight form. But now I plan to kiss who’s ever feet I have to in order to get my epic flight form. As I only have about 800 gold it’ll still be a while before I’m ready, but I’m going to really push for it once I have my epic flight skill.
Erenyin wrote:
Quote:
Elite mount will be +100%
Flight form will be +60%
Elite flight form will be +280%
Isn't flight form +80%?
No. Regular flight form is +60%.
Yes, it's that much slower than epic ground mount's +100%, but don't worry it's still MUCH faster to travel literally "as the crow flies."
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Yes, it's that much slower than epic ground mount's +100%, but don't worry it's still MUCH faster to travel literally "as the crow flies."
Depending on where I’m going I still prefer to hop on my epic kitty for that extra 40% move speed. But I absolutely love the flying form for picking herbs. I land and start picking, if something jumps me I can just fly up and out of combat. The mob wonders off, I pick my herb and fly away. That’s reason enough for me to want my epic flight form.
And on the silly side, I still smile when I jump into the air and just as I’m coming out of my back flip I turn into a bird. I don’t think that will ever get old.
Calabar wrote:
My druid got his flight form about a week ago. Before that I figured I’d just buy a regular epic mount as it was unlikely that I’ll be able to do the quests required for my epic flight form. But now I plan to kiss who’s ever feet I have to in order to get my epic flight form. As I only have about 800 gold it’ll still be a while before I’m ready, but I’m going to really push for it once I have my epic flight skill.
The quest chain is decent lengthed, but the only group part is Heroic Sethek at the end, and since there's daily heroics, finding a group shouldn't be too hard. Especially as the boss you ned to summon can also drop a rare mount.
I agree the animation makes TF look fast but it is not. I actual try races again Druid on a mount and he won race. But I still says you can hold off get a mount because TF is that good for a while until you get into mid-50 by that time usally just want be able keep up with others on a mount.
if you take a enlarging potion of some type you'll notice you walk really slow, though its the same speed.
Gnomes look like their really zipping past but their just walking the same speed.
If you take noggons, your really shooting forward.
Reminds me that i should get a full stack of those.
Being tiny and flying around like that is really very cute.
Gnomes look like their really zipping past but their just walking the same speed.
If you take noggons, your really shooting forward.
Reminds me that i should get a full stack of those.
Being tiny and flying around like that is really very cute.
Micros wrote:
The quest chain is decent lengthed, but the only group part is Heroic Sethek at the end, and since there's daily heroics, finding a group shouldn't be too hard. Especially as the boss you ned to summon can also drop a rare mount.
Really. Thanks for letting me know.
I should have known better than to trust hearsay. I think I’ll go read up on it for myself. If I can solo it all the way up to the last part this won’t be as bad as I was led to believe.
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its part of the animation, the large cats have longer legs so it takes longer for it to make one step... but at the same time its moveing its leg farther... when you watch an epic kodo running it looks extremely fast because its so big, its got short legs and it looks like they move really really fast, well they do, but the kodo istelf doesnt move to fast, same with the elekk.... dont worry though your mount is faster, me whenever im herbalising though, in azerother i simply use travel form because i dont have to dismount remount after every herb and i know all the herbing paths so travel form is a bit quicker.
in OL epic flight form is so nice because you dont have to dismount/mount back up, just zip down, pick, zip away, so lovely.
in OL epic flight form is so nice because you dont have to dismount/mount back up, just zip down, pick, zip away, so lovely.
I have a friend who is currently 66 on his Druid. He has yet to buy a mount, or even train the skills. His own words: "I'm just lazy, and this'll do." Personally, I had a mount at 40 and epic mount at 60. Unless it was very short distances, I used my mount whenever I needed to move.
Have yet to spend money on Epic flight yet, though. Of my Hunter and Druid, I think I'll get my Druid the Epic first. For no other reason than instant shapeshift. It's the single best thing Druids got in TBC except possibly Lifebloom. In world PvP, I'm impossible to catch. If the fight turns out to be more than I can handle, shapeshift Travelform and start running. If I get slowed, Catform and Dash. At some point, I'll be out of combat and instabirdie ensues.
After a heal and drink, I'll be back in catform, only this time prepared.
Few can match the sheer survivability of a Druid in Outlands.
Slightly off topic, but the travelforms definitely have enormous value for a Druid.
Have yet to spend money on Epic flight yet, though. Of my Hunter and Druid, I think I'll get my Druid the Epic first. For no other reason than instant shapeshift. It's the single best thing Druids got in TBC except possibly Lifebloom. In world PvP, I'm impossible to catch. If the fight turns out to be more than I can handle, shapeshift Travelform and start running. If I get slowed, Catform and Dash. At some point, I'll be out of combat and instabirdie ensues.
After a heal and drink, I'll be back in catform, only this time prepared.
Few can match the sheer survivability of a Druid in Outlands.
Slightly off topic, but the travelforms definitely have enormous value for a Druid.
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