first off, I thuroughly enjoy the wealth of knowledge, and have learned alot about the class here (64 tauren Hunter).
/rant
Here I was on my alt (23 Shadow Priest) helping out a buddy in RFC. We get a group together and I take on the role of healing (as I an better equiped to do so). Group is like this.
21 Pally, 13 Hunter, 14 mage, and 13 Priest.
Now, I fully understand that lowbies shouldn't be handled like trash mobs and beaten severly about the ears. Buuut, Instance starts like this. The pally and I are too high to summon. We tell the hunter to summon the other two.
Hunter:" I cant I'm a hunter"
Me:"I know. use the summon stone"
Hunter:"Oh, how?"
I explain, and we get the other two there. While we're buffing up, we hear.
Hunter:"Help"
he had already gone in. I run in, heal, kill the worm killing him and escort him back out to wait on the others. Finally, we're ready. We go in, doing well, and realize the hunter doesnt have his pet.
Me:"Where's your pet?"
Hunter:"Its dead"
Pally:"Revive it"
Hunter:"I can do that?"
Long pause....
We then explain how to revive his pet, and move on. we make it to the first group of rock elementals and the hunter aggros all of them (5 I think), while the Pally and I are drinking. Pally jumps up pulls aggro off him, i trying to heal with little mana, but we managed to prevent a wipe. I tell the hunter if he does that again I'll kick him. This is when the mage notices what we had missed.
Mage:"Shouldn't you be using a gun or bow or something?"
Hunter:"I'm out of ammo"
Mage:"How, you haven't fired any shots"
At the same time we are looting from this nightmare, and a staff comes up with +4 Spell damage/healing. Now, I know +4 isn't much, but to level 13 priest or mage, it helps. in all fairness they greed. Hunter needs? WTF. I dont think I ever used a staff with my hunter. Is it even possable (can't remember)? but the way he was playing, a staff was the last thing he needed. Well, after that he resigned to keeping his head low. We finished the istance without too many more problems.
I know there alot of huntards out there, and I try to teach what little I know, But this was almost too much to bare. At the monent, Im trying to get in touch with his guild leader to let him know. I also offer to show him a few things I have learned along the way.
/end rant.
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You should put the last part of your post in your signature with [sm][/sm] framing the text so people don't gouge out their eyes because of the length of the signature.
Welcome to the board, or have you been lurking for a while?
You should put the last part of your post in your signature with [sm][/sm] framing the text so people don't gouge out their eyes because of the length of the signature.
Welcome to the board, or have you been lurking for a while?
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
I have been a long time lurker. Ever since I was a wee pup of a hunter. learned how to chain trap and kite here. Thanks for the advice on the Sig.
Hunters can use staves, but the bonuses meant nothing for him.
a few tips i think you can always take your time and give a person like that, however in this case, i would have told im sorry, giving him a link to here or tka or any other place and tell him to read up on his class abit and kick him out.
glad to say i have never had the need to do so but i guess that would be what i would have done
glad to say i have never had the need to do so but i guess that would be what i would have done
Sorry OP, but I think it is you who is a bit silly in the ways of people. It is ultimately obvious that this was either a (know-nothing-about-wow) kid or a (know-nothing-about-wow) adult who just started the game. When recognizing this (which you should) there are two ways for you to go:
Either
- be patient and teach him in the wondrous ways of warcraft (tough one, yes I know)
or
- tell him nicely that you do not have the patience to bear with him until he tries and figure out some more
But in my opinion, coming here and blasting away at such a person (level 13 mind you!), obviously oblivious of knowledge, is just ... meh. Would he have been level 70, you would have a point though.
Eat it or have it leave.
Either
- be patient and teach him in the wondrous ways of warcraft (tough one, yes I know)
or
- tell him nicely that you do not have the patience to bear with him until he tries and figure out some more
But in my opinion, coming here and blasting away at such a person (level 13 mind you!), obviously oblivious of knowledge, is just ... meh. Would he have been level 70, you would have a point though.
Eat it or have it leave.
Immunios wrote:
Sorry OP, but I think it is you who is a bit silly in the ways of people. It is ultimately obvious that this was either a (know-nothing-about-wow) kid or a (know-nothing-about-wow) adult who just started the game. When recognizing this (which you should) there are two ways for you to go:
.
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I have to agree. You can make it to 13 in one session. Easily in 2 days. Would've been better to explain things to him and coach him. We didn't all start playing with the fount of knowledge.
Believe it or not, there ARE still newcomers to the game. This guy, while obviously clueless, does not pass the huntard test. With a point in the right direction (before he develops bad habits), he may even make a fine hunter later on.
Kikoko wrote:
first off, I thuroughly enjoy the wealth of knowledge, and have learned alot about the class here (64 tauren Hunter).
/rant
Here I was on my alt (23 Shadow Priest) helping out a buddy in RFC. We get a group together and I take on the role of healing (as I an better equiped to do so). Group is like this.
21 Pally, 13 Hunter, 14 mage, and 13 Priest.
Now, I fully understand that lowbies shouldn't be handled like trash mobs and beaten severly about the ears. Buuut, Instance starts like this. The pally and I are too high to summon. We tell the hunter to summon the other two.
Hunter:" I cant I'm a hunter"
Me:"I know. use the summon stone"
Hunter:"Oh, how?"
I explain, and we get the other two there. While we're buffing up, we hear.
Hunter:"Help"
he had already gone in. I run in, heal, kill the worm killing him and escort him back out to wait on the others. Finally, we're ready. We go in, doing well, and realize the hunter doesnt have his pet.
Me:"Where's your pet?"
Hunter:"Its dead"
Pally:"Revive it"
Hunter:"I can do that?"
Long pause....
We then explain how to revive his pet, and move on. we make it to the first group of rock elementals and the hunter aggros all of them (5 I think), while the Pally and I are drinking. Pally jumps up pulls aggro off him, i trying to heal with little mana, but we managed to prevent a wipe. I tell the hunter if he does that again I'll kick him. This is when the mage notices what we had missed.
Mage:"Shouldn't you be using a gun or bow or something?"
Hunter:"I'm out of ammo"
Mage:"How, you haven't fired any shots"
At the same time we are looting from this nightmare, and a staff comes up with +4 Spell damage/healing. Now, I know +4 isn't much, but to level 13 priest or mage, it helps. in all fairness they greed. Hunter needs? WTF. I dont think I ever used a staff with my hunter. Is it even possable (can't remember)? but the way he was playing, a staff was the last thing he needed. Well, after that he resigned to keeping his head low. We finished the istance without too many more problems.
/rant
Here I was on my alt (23 Shadow Priest) helping out a buddy in RFC. We get a group together and I take on the role of healing (as I an better equiped to do so). Group is like this.
21 Pally, 13 Hunter, 14 mage, and 13 Priest.
Now, I fully understand that lowbies shouldn't be handled like trash mobs and beaten severly about the ears. Buuut, Instance starts like this. The pally and I are too high to summon. We tell the hunter to summon the other two.
Hunter:" I cant I'm a hunter"
Me:"I know. use the summon stone"
Hunter:"Oh, how?"
I explain, and we get the other two there. While we're buffing up, we hear.
Hunter:"Help"
he had already gone in. I run in, heal, kill the worm killing him and escort him back out to wait on the others. Finally, we're ready. We go in, doing well, and realize the hunter doesnt have his pet.
Me:"Where's your pet?"
Hunter:"Its dead"
Pally:"Revive it"
Hunter:"I can do that?"
Long pause....
We then explain how to revive his pet, and move on. we make it to the first group of rock elementals and the hunter aggros all of them (5 I think), while the Pally and I are drinking. Pally jumps up pulls aggro off him, i trying to heal with little mana, but we managed to prevent a wipe. I tell the hunter if he does that again I'll kick him. This is when the mage notices what we had missed.
Mage:"Shouldn't you be using a gun or bow or something?"
Hunter:"I'm out of ammo"
Mage:"How, you haven't fired any shots"
At the same time we are looting from this nightmare, and a staff comes up with +4 Spell damage/healing. Now, I know +4 isn't much, but to level 13 priest or mage, it helps. in all fairness they greed. Hunter needs? WTF. I dont think I ever used a staff with my hunter. Is it even possable (can't remember)? but the way he was playing, a staff was the last thing he needed. Well, after that he resigned to keeping his head low. We finished the istance without too many more problems.
Ok. First off. He's Freaking level 13 and you expect him to know everything about his class. I bet if the hunter was your first class you didn't know everything.
I'll be perfectly honest. I lost my very first pet due to not having known I had to do the second part of the chain to feed my pet. I asked level 60's what I was doing wrong and they told me that you couldn't feed your pet or train them. When people are unwilling to help the people who are asking questions politely then what good are they as a class "Role Model"
I swore I would never be like that and often help lowbies that are lost. specially hunters who are in need of some advice.
As for being low on ammo... We have all done it before, prolly not in an instance but I know most of us have done that at least once. At level 13 it really doesn't matter to much anyway.
instead of rebuking him or getting mad at him. Teach him.
Hitash, I find it funny you intentionally left off part of his post, and it answered your biggest complaint.
They did try and teach the hunter. They taught him too use the summon stone and how to revive their pet. But there is little they can teach him about not charging into battle without the group, except letting him die, or about gearing up before grouping.
There is a limit on what you can expect others to teach a new player, and some expectation on new players reading up on what they are playing. I haven't played wow for long, less then 2 weeks at this point, and I don't know a lot about the game, but I do know about almost all of their complaints. At level 10 hunters get a big rundown about pets. Read what the trainer says and look at the pet skills they give you and you know how to take care of your pet. Ammo is easy, you run out you buy more. I ran out early in my dwarfs career, after that I started making sure I know where to get more bullets, and when I group I start with a full bag.
Grouping is common sense, you work together with the group. If you want to go off before the group is ready you go and solo. Same with need before greed, when ever I see an item our another in our group can use more then me, they get it. If no one needs it then it can go to whomever. We are not talking about anything complicated here.
Kikoko wrote:
I know there alot of huntards out there, and I try to teach what little I know, But this was almost too much to bare. At the monent, Im trying to get in touch with his guild leader to let him know. I also offer to show him a few things I have learned along the way.
/end rant.
Thanks
/end rant.
Thanks
They did try and teach the hunter. They taught him too use the summon stone and how to revive their pet. But there is little they can teach him about not charging into battle without the group, except letting him die, or about gearing up before grouping.
There is a limit on what you can expect others to teach a new player, and some expectation on new players reading up on what they are playing. I haven't played wow for long, less then 2 weeks at this point, and I don't know a lot about the game, but I do know about almost all of their complaints. At level 10 hunters get a big rundown about pets. Read what the trainer says and look at the pet skills they give you and you know how to take care of your pet. Ammo is easy, you run out you buy more. I ran out early in my dwarfs career, after that I started making sure I know where to get more bullets, and when I group I start with a full bag.
Grouping is common sense, you work together with the group. If you want to go off before the group is ready you go and solo. Same with need before greed, when ever I see an item our another in our group can use more then me, they get it. If no one needs it then it can go to whomever. We are not talking about anything complicated here.
They didn't kick him. They kept him along for the run. They tried to explain things. Good grief guys, he did exactly what you're getting mad at him for not doing. Give your heads a shake. Boards like this are made for rants.
Good job on letting him stay. I never group before level 20 or so, most people have figured things out a bit more by then.
Also for the need/greed thing, I've found a lot of new players think that if you click need it will go to whoever needs it. This would probably have been the first time he saw that thing pop up.
Edited, Jan 3rd 2008 10:16am by Xsarus
Good job on letting him stay. I never group before level 20 or so, most people have figured things out a bit more by then.
Also for the need/greed thing, I've found a lot of new players think that if you click need it will go to whoever needs it. This would probably have been the first time he saw that thing pop up.
Edited, Jan 3rd 2008 10:16am by Xsarus
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I understand the OP's position, but I do have to agree, the guy was totally GREEN. Hell, at 13 I didn't even know how to train my pet. Had to wait until 18 and have a GM tell me. It's not written down any place!
I think Kikoko did a great job in letting him remain, he probably learned a lot during that run. Stuff learned under that kind of pressure tends to be remembered, but what I'd like to point out here is a possible different way to approach this kind of situation.
When the two higher level characters realized they had a total newbie on their hands (not unusual for a first instance), you should've stopped and made a plan around it.
First, you need to go down the 'instance' checklist with the hunter:
1. Got Pet?
2. Got Food for new Pet? (will need lots, not fully loyal pets do!)
3. Got Ranged Weapon?
4. Got Ammo? (Is ammo loaded in the correct slot?)
5. Got Food for Toon? (Gotta health up after a fight, Priest is mana'ing up.)
6. Got Water for Toon? (Need that mana)
7. Some cheap armor easily available for him? (sometimes newbies don't know how to armor up fully, and it's needed before a first instance. We're talking coppers here.)
Second, basic training. Outside the instance, pick on a few mobs and practice the roles as a GROUP so that everyone knows what's expected of them, and gets the lingo straight. Teach the basics, pulling, sending pet, when NOT to send pet, aggro management, etc. 15 minutes spent here can save you an HOUR of wipes and rezzes, a bunch of repair money, and a TON of frustration. This is where you can teach the newbie the ropes, and keep in mind, the real stuff that you need to know in an instance is NOT taught in beating on mobs from level 1-10.
When you realized you had a total newbie on your hands, to take them into an instance without doing the above is a bit hazardous to the rest of the group. Everyone in that group needed to decide if they were willing to go ahead with the newbie. I'm glad that you all did, but you guys kinda got what you asked for when you didn't plan on fully helping the new guy along.
Sometimes it's best to NOT go ahead, to stop, zoom back out a bit and take things from the larger perspective and slowly work back in.
We all get a little spoiled by having high-level help and surrounded by players that know the ropes so well that problems tend to resolve themselves. We lose the perspective of what it was like when we were brand new. I, speaking for myself, would love to be one of the people that could claim credit for helping the next potential WoW God earn their first stripes. I don't mind helping new comers and I think Kikoko doesn't either but was frustrated by the situation.
Sometimes we need to stop and plan, especially when we uncover the unexpected. Otherwise, even the best of us get frustrated and need to rant. I keep a pillow on a desk next to my PC for this problem. Lets me beat my head against the desk in silence!
I think Kikoko did a great job in letting him remain, he probably learned a lot during that run. Stuff learned under that kind of pressure tends to be remembered, but what I'd like to point out here is a possible different way to approach this kind of situation.
When the two higher level characters realized they had a total newbie on their hands (not unusual for a first instance), you should've stopped and made a plan around it.
First, you need to go down the 'instance' checklist with the hunter:
1. Got Pet?
2. Got Food for new Pet? (will need lots, not fully loyal pets do!)
3. Got Ranged Weapon?
4. Got Ammo? (Is ammo loaded in the correct slot?)
5. Got Food for Toon? (Gotta health up after a fight, Priest is mana'ing up.)
6. Got Water for Toon? (Need that mana)
7. Some cheap armor easily available for him? (sometimes newbies don't know how to armor up fully, and it's needed before a first instance. We're talking coppers here.)
Second, basic training. Outside the instance, pick on a few mobs and practice the roles as a GROUP so that everyone knows what's expected of them, and gets the lingo straight. Teach the basics, pulling, sending pet, when NOT to send pet, aggro management, etc. 15 minutes spent here can save you an HOUR of wipes and rezzes, a bunch of repair money, and a TON of frustration. This is where you can teach the newbie the ropes, and keep in mind, the real stuff that you need to know in an instance is NOT taught in beating on mobs from level 1-10.
When you realized you had a total newbie on your hands, to take them into an instance without doing the above is a bit hazardous to the rest of the group. Everyone in that group needed to decide if they were willing to go ahead with the newbie. I'm glad that you all did, but you guys kinda got what you asked for when you didn't plan on fully helping the new guy along.
Sometimes it's best to NOT go ahead, to stop, zoom back out a bit and take things from the larger perspective and slowly work back in.
We all get a little spoiled by having high-level help and surrounded by players that know the ropes so well that problems tend to resolve themselves. We lose the perspective of what it was like when we were brand new. I, speaking for myself, would love to be one of the people that could claim credit for helping the next potential WoW God earn their first stripes. I don't mind helping new comers and I think Kikoko doesn't either but was frustrated by the situation.
Sometimes we need to stop and plan, especially when we uncover the unexpected. Otherwise, even the best of us get frustrated and need to rant. I keep a pillow on a desk next to my PC for this problem. Lets me beat my head against the desk in silence!
I cut that part out as a part of his sig trying to make it shorter. you can try to say anything you want but him coming and crying to us about a level 13 that didn't know some things is silly and really pointless.
Don't call it a sad day for hunters when all it is was a new player not understanding something. That's what I was getting at. He rebuked the player here instead of just being glad he taught the poor guy a little about the game.
And to be totally honest I didn't want to get started on the whole him calling a lvl 13 a huntard. There is no real way to define a huntard from a new person in the game at lvl 13.
tisk tisk.
Just be lucky you didn't have a lvl 45 hunter asking when they learn shields or having a hunter need a 2 hand mace cause it had nice amount of str on it.
*edit* Oh and BtW all his effort to help the guy has lost the nobility of the act by coming here and bashing on him like he is a ******.
Edited, Jan 3rd 2008 9:23am by HitashLevat
Don't call it a sad day for hunters when all it is was a new player not understanding something. That's what I was getting at. He rebuked the player here instead of just being glad he taught the poor guy a little about the game.
And to be totally honest I didn't want to get started on the whole him calling a lvl 13 a huntard. There is no real way to define a huntard from a new person in the game at lvl 13.
tisk tisk.
Just be lucky you didn't have a lvl 45 hunter asking when they learn shields or having a hunter need a 2 hand mace cause it had nice amount of str on it.
*edit* Oh and BtW all his effort to help the guy has lost the nobility of the act by coming here and bashing on him like he is a ******.
Edited, Jan 3rd 2008 9:23am by HitashLevat
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druids tend to be ok as they are easy to play
That's a really stupid and uninformed statement. This is only the 18431231th thread complaining about lowbie idiots. Let's keep it civil before we begin making wild assumptions about classes we have never played, shall we?
LOL, this brings back fond memories of me being a lowbie hunter. I'll share my tale with you.
*I too missed out on the feed your pet training. Found it right before I lost mine.
*I ran out of ammo cause I wasn't paying attention. Had no clue how to replace it or equip new ammo either. As a result, I melee'd a lot. LOL
* I didn't train my pet either...lol and I should have guessed I needed to since I also had a higher lvl warlock...
At around lvl 25 I ran into a group of people who took me under their wing and coached me along. We are still together and now I'm not so much of a goof hunter. My hunter has come a long way since those days and I've been playing Wow now for one year.
Bless those people willing to help you.
*I too missed out on the feed your pet training. Found it right before I lost mine.
*I ran out of ammo cause I wasn't paying attention. Had no clue how to replace it or equip new ammo either. As a result, I melee'd a lot. LOL
* I didn't train my pet either...lol and I should have guessed I needed to since I also had a higher lvl warlock...
At around lvl 25 I ran into a group of people who took me under their wing and coached me along. We are still together and now I'm not so much of a goof hunter. My hunter has come a long way since those days and I've been playing Wow now for one year.
Bless those people willing to help you.
Hey redbarrom Spellcheck please. It's really hard to read your post. As for druids being easy to play... I disagree. IMO they are very draining.
Also you stating that Frost sucks till level 40 is very uneducated. Frost is the easiest and safest way to level. If you actually had a mage you would know what I am talking about. It is really nice to be able to AoE grind at lvl 23.
Trust me, I have a FROST mage. You just need to know what talents to pick. Besides Frost is about control not about UBER damage.
Also you stating that Frost sucks till level 40 is very uneducated. Frost is the easiest and safest way to level. If you actually had a mage you would know what I am talking about. It is really nice to be able to AoE grind at lvl 23.
Trust me, I have a FROST mage. You just need to know what talents to pick. Besides Frost is about control not about UBER damage.
Xenexia wrote:
LOL, this brings back fond memories of me being a lowbie hunter. I'll share my tale with you.
*I too missed out on the feed your pet training. Found it right before I lost mine.
*I ran out of ammo cause I wasn't paying attention. Had no clue how to replace it or equip new ammo either. As a result, I melee'd a lot. LOL
* I didn't train my pet either...lol and I should have guessed I needed to since I also had a higher lvl warlock...
At around lvl 25 I ran into a group of people who took me under their wing and coached me along. We are still together and now I'm not so much of a goof hunter. My hunter has come a long way since those days and I've been playing Wow now for one year.
Bless those people willing to help you.
*I too missed out on the feed your pet training. Found it right before I lost mine.
*I ran out of ammo cause I wasn't paying attention. Had no clue how to replace it or equip new ammo either. As a result, I melee'd a lot. LOL
* I didn't train my pet either...lol and I should have guessed I needed to since I also had a higher lvl warlock...
At around lvl 25 I ran into a group of people who took me under their wing and coached me along. We are still together and now I'm not so much of a goof hunter. My hunter has come a long way since those days and I've been playing Wow now for one year.
Bless those people willing to help you.
Yup, I didn't find out how to train my pet until level 25. I got really good at kiting because my pet didn't have growl lol! I read here a couple times that you could train and I went taming random creatures to learn the new moves. But did not know where to go to train it. I didn't even have a spec till level 19 when I re read my guide and it showed something I hadn't found yet and I read that you start getting points at 10.
To the OP
See we all have Newbie mistakes.
Difference from a newb and a N00B is a newb doesn't know any better and acts out of ignorance hence NEWb. A N00B refuses help and rebukes those who try to. The guy you dealt with was a Newb.
Obviously he listened to what little advice you did give him. So what was the problem?
Edited, Jan 3rd 2008 10:11am by HitashLevat
I appreciate everyones opinion on this. I have since been in contact with the guy again and his guilds class leader, and have hopefull helped him out. I have also run the instance with him several more time to aid in him. I think he'll do fine as a hunter, and look forward to running with him in the future. I did'nt come here to bash the guy for say, but to rather vent on a rather frustrating run. Thanks again.
It's nice that you wanted to genuinely help, but next time don't label him a Huntard until he has proven he is indeed retarded.
I actually enjoy grouping with new players when its one on one. Well, with new players who have any interest in learning how to play. I’ve encountered those that didn’t. Just this week I encountered a new player while questing at the Lock. I started a dwarven hunter on a friend’s server and met her while collecting the lost tools of the gnome pilot who crashed his plane next to the lock and had his tools stolen by trogs. I was 17 and she was 18. We just stood and talked for over half an hour about various game mechanics. And just last night we grouped for a few quests in Westfall.
But I expect it’s a bit more disconcerting when you find out someone is completely inexperienced after you’ve already started an instance. In that situation it’s not just you and the new player; three other players with diverse personalities are also involved. Suddenly you’re faced with two different goals, teaching the new player and completing the instance that everyone showed up to do.
I do agree that coming here to rant on someone playing a level 13 character is a bit extreme, but at least the guy wasn’t kicked from the group. There is a heck of a lot to learn when you’re new to MMORPGs. When I started WoW I already had about six years experience from UO, EQ and a couple of other games. But for many people WoW is their very first online RPG. If we can keep that in mind when interacting with strangers it might make the game less frustrating for us and more enjoyable for the new players.
As for hunters using staves, one of my hunters is currently using the Explorer's Walking Stick
(http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?source=live;witem=25835)
But I expect it’s a bit more disconcerting when you find out someone is completely inexperienced after you’ve already started an instance. In that situation it’s not just you and the new player; three other players with diverse personalities are also involved. Suddenly you’re faced with two different goals, teaching the new player and completing the instance that everyone showed up to do.
I do agree that coming here to rant on someone playing a level 13 character is a bit extreme, but at least the guy wasn’t kicked from the group. There is a heck of a lot to learn when you’re new to MMORPGs. When I started WoW I already had about six years experience from UO, EQ and a couple of other games. But for many people WoW is their very first online RPG. If we can keep that in mind when interacting with strangers it might make the game less frustrating for us and more enjoyable for the new players.
As for hunters using staves, one of my hunters is currently using the Explorer's Walking Stick
(http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?source=live;witem=25835)
A Sad day for a hunter:
I decided to tell a story that better fit the title of this thread.
I play a level 70 Feral Druid, I was with a 70 frost mage, 70 Resto Shaman, 70 Shadowstep Rogue, and a 70 Elemental Shamen. We were goofing around and getting rep with the Netherwing guys in Shadowmoon Vally.
We all had the quest to kill the Whacked guy (Pardon my memory, I forgot his full name)
Anyways in the middle of the fight a level 70 alliance hunter flew down and trid to gank the mage. Well 3 seconds later the hunter was dead.
Now I ask you, what kind of idiot tried to solo 5 level 70's?
The worst part of it was that his pet was a level 36 ghostwolf
I decided to tell a story that better fit the title of this thread.
I play a level 70 Feral Druid, I was with a 70 frost mage, 70 Resto Shaman, 70 Shadowstep Rogue, and a 70 Elemental Shamen. We were goofing around and getting rep with the Netherwing guys in Shadowmoon Vally.
We all had the quest to kill the Whacked guy (Pardon my memory, I forgot his full name)
Anyways in the middle of the fight a level 70 alliance hunter flew down and trid to gank the mage. Well 3 seconds later the hunter was dead.
Now I ask you, what kind of idiot tried to solo 5 level 70's?
The worst part of it was that his pet was a level 36 ghostwolf
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HitashLevat
Hey redbarrom Spellcheck please. It's really hard to read your post. As for druids being easy to play... I disagree. IMO they are very draining.
Also you stating that Frost sucks till level 40 is very uneducated. Frost is the easiest and safest way to level. If you actually had a mage you would know what I am talking about. It is really nice to be able to AoE grind at lvl 23.
Trust me, I have a FROST mage. You just need to know what talents to pick. Besides Frost is about control not about UBER damage.
*thumbs down*
I have a 60th Mage, and have respecced at least a half dozen times. I can honestly say that until you hit 40th level, unless you positively -suck- at pulling from a distance, you have no business casting frost bolt... If you -need- to cast FB you're killing the wrong mobs or you're doing it 'wrong' and your mana efficiency will suffer dramatically as a result.
That's right, not only is the frost talent tree trash until (at the very least) the late 30s, without said tree the frost spells (save for FN) are a complete joke and should (and frequently do) die in a fire, as they say.
Now that said, spellchecking is always a virtue.
Edited, Jan 3rd 2008 2:15pm by Kirzen
Edited, Jan 3rd 2008 2:15pm by Kirzen
Hey redbarrom Spellcheck please. It's really hard to read your post. As for druids being easy to play... I disagree. IMO they are very draining.
Also you stating that Frost sucks till level 40 is very uneducated. Frost is the easiest and safest way to level. If you actually had a mage you would know what I am talking about. It is really nice to be able to AoE grind at lvl 23.
Trust me, I have a FROST mage. You just need to know what talents to pick. Besides Frost is about control not about UBER damage.
*thumbs down*
I have a 60th Mage, and have respecced at least a half dozen times. I can honestly say that until you hit 40th level, unless you positively -suck- at pulling from a distance, you have no business casting frost bolt... If you -need- to cast FB you're killing the wrong mobs or you're doing it 'wrong' and your mana efficiency will suffer dramatically as a result.
That's right, not only is the frost talent tree trash until (at the very least) the late 30s, without said tree the frost spells (save for FN) are a complete joke and should (and frequently do) die in a fire, as they say.
Now that said, spellchecking is always a virtue.
Edited, Jan 3rd 2008 2:15pm by Kirzen
Edited, Jan 3rd 2008 2:15pm by Kirzen
While that may be your personal opp. I prefer keeping mobs off me as to taking hits. Frost allows me to do that quite well and if an Oh snap... 1 of the 3 mobs resisted FN. Cold snap FN again bam Blizzard +D
This kinda strikes at the heart of the whole thing. We can teach a newbie basic game mechanics, basic role responsibilities and basic gameplay, however, once we all get advanced enough, each person comes into their own and plays the game THEIR way.
Not everyone will get along. Not everyone will play the same toon, same class, same spec, in the the same way.
One person says: class X spec Y sucks below level XX
Another says: I love that class and spec, but here's how I do it...
This, in my opinion is how we all learn, sharing stuff. If we can leave the insults and attacks out of it, then it just becomes easier reading... LOL! ^_^
Not everyone will get along. Not everyone will play the same toon, same class, same spec, in the the same way.
One person says: class X spec Y sucks below level XX
Another says: I love that class and spec, but here's how I do it...
This, in my opinion is how we all learn, sharing stuff. If we can leave the insults and attacks out of it, then it just becomes easier reading... LOL! ^_^
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