Okay, so this is a 0/11/50 build I was toying around with, meant to be able to level/farm efficiently (geared as enhancement) and then be able to heal everything up to heroics when in healing gear. Am I crazy to think that this might actually work? I'd use a two-hander while leveling/farming, and mace/shield while playing healbot.
Any thoughts on this? I know it wouldn't be the most efficient build, but the only thing I think I'd desperately miss is stormstrike, but I'd think the resto abilities would make up for some of that (wouldn't do as much damage, but would heal a lot better, have nature's swiftness, etc.)
So...am I crazy?
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Well, I an a lvl 67 resto shaman and I am leveling to 70 using a variation of that buld (I dropped healing grace and am putting them in ancestral healing). I do a competent job of healing 5 mans at my level, in my opinion. I take a while soloing but my resto talents make increase my survivability. I was leveling toward the typical 0/5/56 build but found that when I hit the outlands, I was getting creamed. I switched to the 0/11/50 build and am happy with it.
i think your better of with 11/0/50, i was goin for a build like that but i put an extra point into one of the talents on accident :(
oh well 12/0/49 for now =P
here is my reason, your resto which means your spec to cast, why not use another spec that also is made to cast aka ele, and when your in dps gear your healing is not gimped to hell.
Earthen shield needs +healing to be worth it, enhancement gear doesnt support this.
Anyhow it is fun for me so far, 1800 healing, and 1200 spell dmg, so easy to heal, it is not like i am missing out on anything major in resto anyhow
oh well 12/0/49 for now =P
here is my reason, your resto which means your spec to cast, why not use another spec that also is made to cast aka ele, and when your in dps gear your healing is not gimped to hell.
Earthen shield needs +healing to be worth it, enhancement gear doesnt support this.
Anyhow it is fun for me so far, 1800 healing, and 1200 spell dmg, so easy to heal, it is not like i am missing out on anything major in resto anyhow
2 reasons, I suppose. Elemental means I'd end up using mana like crazy, which means I'd have to stop and drink all the time, which, imo, sucks. My druid is balance, and that's the one thing I hate (though I'll usually switch to cat form, but that's been getting less useful lately.)
Second thing is that, like I said, I'd have a grinding set and a healing set. I don't feel any particular compulsion to only need one set, and I'd obviously pick up healing pieces over dps pieces, unless someone didn't need them.
Thirdly...elemental pre-58 is horrible to play. The gear just isn't available.
Finally, and probably most important...I don't really want to do an elemental/resto thing. Playing a caster without any snares or cc just doesn't sound like a fun proposition to me. At least with the 0/11/50 spec I should do tolerably in melee, and be able to heal like a crazy person :)
Second thing is that, like I said, I'd have a grinding set and a healing set. I don't feel any particular compulsion to only need one set, and I'd obviously pick up healing pieces over dps pieces, unless someone didn't need them.
Thirdly...elemental pre-58 is horrible to play. The gear just isn't available.
Finally, and probably most important...I don't really want to do an elemental/resto thing. Playing a caster without any snares or cc just doesn't sound like a fun proposition to me. At least with the 0/11/50 spec I should do tolerably in melee, and be able to heal like a crazy person :)
Ok but you do realize as a resto with points in ele it means you only need 1 set of gear on your way to 70 lol.
Your right you need to drink when casting for dmg, but wacking at an enemy with a big 2h just means your within combat range taking damage you need to heal back up, and also your gimping your classes main strengths, if you are spec to heal why would you want to spec part into a tree that uses completely different gear?
Also a nice perc is, stam int, spell damage and even healing can be used for this spec, these things all support both spell types, damage and healing, but play as you wish I was simply making a suggestion.
BTW without SR you still have to drink either way since you will be healing a lot still and dropping totems and flame shocking a lot.
Now if you asked how could I level fastest to 70, go full enhancement =P
Your right you need to drink when casting for dmg, but wacking at an enemy with a big 2h just means your within combat range taking damage you need to heal back up, and also your gimping your classes main strengths, if you are spec to heal why would you want to spec part into a tree that uses completely different gear?
Also a nice perc is, stam int, spell damage and even healing can be used for this spec, these things all support both spell types, damage and healing, but play as you wish I was simply making a suggestion.
BTW without SR you still have to drink either way since you will be healing a lot still and dropping totems and flame shocking a lot.
Now if you asked how could I level fastest to 70, go full enhancement =P
LOL, I know straight enhancement is best for leveling, my main is a 62 enhancement shammy at the moment. I'm just getting a little tired of every fight being "stormstrike, oh look, shamanistic focus, earth shock, wait, stormstrike, etc." ad infinitum, and I thought maybe with all the various heal buttons things might be more exciting.
Admittedly, that's why I've been playing my pally and druid more lately (yes, I love my hybrids).
I don't know, maybe elemental would be better. I'm thinking of actually trying out some BGs with a new character, and I'm just not sure what would be best to do, but since I've heard people say that healing wins BGs, I thought maybe a heal-specced shammy might be a way to go (and I'd still be able to smack people decently with windfury and a good 2-hander, I'd think.)
Admittedly, that's why I've been playing my pally and druid more lately (yes, I love my hybrids).
I don't know, maybe elemental would be better. I'm thinking of actually trying out some BGs with a new character, and I'm just not sure what would be best to do, but since I've heard people say that healing wins BGs, I thought maybe a heal-specced shammy might be a way to go (and I'd still be able to smack people decently with windfury and a good 2-hander, I'd think.)
if you want to try a class with many button then give warrior a try i got a warrior to 30 in 2 weeks and was most fun i had in a while but they have so many button, and at low levels they destroy everyone in damage since all weapons but 2h suck and there is not anywhere near enough spell damage gear to make a caster compare.
Anyhow... ya shaman is basically a pretty straightforward lack of abilities class If you are ele it means LB LB LB CL occasional ES, enh means auto attack SS then ES and pray for WF procs, resto is not so simple in 5 mans at first you have to use HW when tank health is 60%+ and LHW when it is less then that to top off quick, and Earthen Shield makes all this more simple, and it only gets better the more + healing you have, once you have 1800+ you notice that healing then becomes boring and you start doing raids and spamming Chain heal
Anyhow... ya shaman is basically a pretty straightforward lack of abilities class If you are ele it means LB LB LB CL occasional ES, enh means auto attack SS then ES and pray for WF procs, resto is not so simple in 5 mans at first you have to use HW when tank health is 60%+ and LHW when it is less then that to top off quick, and Earthen Shield makes all this more simple, and it only gets better the more + healing you have, once you have 1800+ you notice that healing then becomes boring and you start doing raids and spamming Chain heal
Oddly enough, I've got a 16 warrior I've been messing with, arms spec is what I'm planning on doing. However, I really feel the lack of being able to heal, and don't like the fact that I don't seem to have an "Oh ****!" button. Even as a shammy, I still have my heals (and shamanistic rage or whatever that last talent in the enhancement tree is called, I know it's something like that.)
Granted, that warrior is an herb/alchemist, so that helps somewhat (though I'm sad that they got rid of the ability to drink like 6 different buff potions :( ). That warrior and a mage are my two low-ish alts that I'm messing around with (I've also got an old rogue and a couple hunters that have basically become bank characters)
Meh, I don't know, I think I'm just going to play my druid some more. I need to level up my leatherworking, and that's way easier that leveling up my shammy's blacksmithing (so much mithril....)
Granted, that warrior is an herb/alchemist, so that helps somewhat (though I'm sad that they got rid of the ability to drink like 6 different buff potions :( ). That warrior and a mage are my two low-ish alts that I'm messing around with (I've also got an old rogue and a couple hunters that have basically become bank characters)
Meh, I don't know, I think I'm just going to play my druid some more. I need to level up my leatherworking, and that's way easier that leveling up my shammy's blacksmithing (so much mithril....)
You are crazy for using the WoW.com talent viewer.
Wowhead's talent viewer is better, prettier, faster, and shows the last rank of the talent skill ( if any). Use it, feel it, love it.
And IMO if you are healing you want to go straight out resto, if you are soloing you want mostly enhancement/ele, not mostly resto sooo yeah. =/
Wowhead's talent viewer is better, prettier, faster, and shows the last rank of the talent skill ( if any). Use it, feel it, love it.
And IMO if you are healing you want to go straight out resto, if you are soloing you want mostly enhancement/ele, not mostly resto sooo yeah. =/
well i would agree that putting 5 points in enh for a resto for 5% increasemana is a waste, from what i have heard, this is the spec of shaman in veryhigh end raiding content:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hxcZZEc0tAeoted
mainly because elemental warding helps to save a lot of the healing that you would use on yourself in fights where some spell damage may be an issue.
now all you lose with the 11/0/50 build is threat on heals, which in s raid threat should never be an issue.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hxcZZEc0tAeoted
mainly because elemental warding helps to save a lot of the healing that you would use on yourself in fights where some spell damage may be an issue.
now all you lose with the 11/0/50 build is threat on heals, which in s raid threat should never be an issue.
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On my shaman, I am going 11/0/50, just because I am not always going to be in a group, and I like the extra damage and efficiency of Elemental Focus. Yes, I would lose the threat talent in the resto tree, but if I am in a group, it probably wouldn't make much of a difference. Also, the extra output wouldn't have a negative effect on my overall survivability.
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