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#27 Jan 08 2008 at 4:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Jenovaomega wrote:
badges (the haste offhand is currently the best offhand in the game), crafted and ZA are the main sources of haste


Well, since you said its +spell damage and hit first, I will keep my hit trinket and Crusade. And I am far from having enough badges for something decent really :)

We just entered Kara for the second time last night (for some it was a first time), not on some scheduled raid but just "oh look there are 9 people online lets go practice some". So we even rotated few PuGs because people had to log off and so on.
A very good equipped warrior friend from another much more progressed guild was "showing us around" and explaining fights.

So we killed Maiden and Big Bad Wolf, wiped 2 times on Curator and had to call it a night since most of us had to go. Basically I think we just lacked dps on the last one.

So you see Jen, we are far from ZA and such stuff :)
I guess haste can wait until I can afford it and spare some other stats to trade for it.


Edited, Jan 8th 2008 7:45am by Sethy
#28 Jan 08 2008 at 5:47 AM Rating: Good
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+18 stamina and +51 shadowdamage thats the orb


I know Oaken - those stats I listed are just the ones that are over and above the Orb. all you lose from the orb is 17 shadow damage as you have +34 damage on the Primal Fetish one.
#29 Jan 08 2008 at 5:52 AM Rating: Decent
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well 17 dmg ist 17 dmg. so is it really better?
#30 Jan 08 2008 at 5:56 AM Rating: Decent
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-17 damage +17 haste. So what is more important?

#31 Jan 08 2008 at 6:02 AM Rating: Decent
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well i bought it now. i hope someone will whoop up some numbers.
#32 Jan 08 2008 at 6:56 AM Rating: Good
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If I remember correctly +17 haste > +14 Shadow Damage. I don't remember the exact numbers. Also +damage > +shadow damage. and an additional 6 stam and 17 int can't be ignored either.
#33 Jan 08 2008 at 9:01 AM Rating: Decent
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i really wonder if 0.3 seconds faster casting and 0,2% crit ist as much as +17 shadowdmg
#34 Jan 08 2008 at 10:48 AM Rating: Decent
1. Spell haste = faster casting times = more dps. Haste really shows up most in LONG fights obviously.

2. Any affliction build that puts more than 1 point in shadow embrace, or lacks 1 point in shadow embrace is crap. It adds a shadow effect, with adds to several other talents. More than 1 points is a waste, as all you want is the shadow effect.

3. Improved CoA is a waste. Always has been.

4. Trash mobs = Curse of Shadows, corruption, spam s-bolt. If the fight is longer than 30 seconds, include immolate.

5. Boss fights: CoD, CoS, CoE, depending on your raid make up. (I personally dont think CoR has any reason to be cast on a boss, whoever mentiond that should be shot, hanged, shot again, etc etc etc).

Remember this is all just my opinion. (backed by a bit o raiding)

#35 Jan 08 2008 at 10:57 AM Rating: Decent
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2. Any affliction build that puts more than 1 point in shadow embrace, or lacks 1 point in shadow embrace is crap. It adds a shadow effect, with adds to several other talents. More than 1 points is a waste, as all you want is the shadow effect.


Someone has to have the Shadow Embrace effect. 5/5 is too good in a raid for no one to have it.
#36 Jan 08 2008 at 11:01 AM Rating: Decent
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1. Spell haste = faster casting times = more dps. Haste really shows up most in LONG fights obviously.


less spelldmg less dmg. i still wonder when 0.3 seconds break even with +17 spelldmg
#37 Jan 08 2008 at 11:08 AM Rating: Decent
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Oakenwrath wrote:

less spelldmg less dmg. i still wonder when 0.3 seconds break even with +17 spelldmg


Ditto.

#38 Jan 08 2008 at 11:08 AM Rating: Decent
Given that it is only working on Shadow Bolt, for a DS/Destro spec? After about 8 casts (i.e. on the first free SB, even non-crit it's 1800+ damage, easily). Even in an affliction spec, once you've put out your 8th shadow bolt, that +17 damage has only accounted for about 150 damage or so across all your DoTs.
#39 Jan 08 2008 at 11:13 AM Rating: Decent
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yup, true enough but that is because i gave you wrong numbers =/

the heroic badge offhand makes my casts 0.03 seconds faster
#40 Jan 08 2008 at 2:03 PM Rating: Decent
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that's the thing about haste. though according to the numbers it'll be better. in reality for any spec other than dest you do need to collect more haste (probably enough to get to 0.1-0.2 SB reduction, so 5-10% haste) to make it worth while. but as dest. even 0.03 is worth it and the 17 haste from the offand >>>> 17 +dmg.
#41 Jan 08 2008 at 2:06 PM Rating: Decent
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so nothing for me than, yet^^ well got it anyways don´t know what else to do with my badges
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