Maybe it's just me, but I'm getting pretty frustrated with people deciding to "help" me when I've gathered up 5 or 6 mobs and am proceeding to allow them to whack themselves to death against my shield spike/holy shield/blessing of sanctuary/consecration. I don't know if people just don't understand how being a protection pally works while leveling or what. I even had a troll who helped me out in Tanaris (my pally is a draenei).
I always thank the people, of course, but I know that I'm losing experience every time it happens. I don't know if the people just don't look at my health, or what, but it's rare that it ever drops below half.
I don't know if I should say something to people or just let it go or what. I guess it's not that big of a deal, but it just confuses me that people don't even seem to look at my health or realize that I don't need any help.
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You can stop thanking them. Explain what you are doing and hopefully they won't bug ya anymore.
If that doesn't work, you can make a macro for your Holy Shield that shouts out "I am AOE grinding please don't help me!"
If that doesn't work, you can make a macro for your Holy Shield that shouts out "I am AOE grinding please don't help me!"
I only have that happen every once in a while, and never from a horde :P (I am alliance)...but I kindly tell people that them helping is worse than letting me take the mobs on all at once, and that I can easily take on big groups of mobs without coming close to dieing.
As for your case, the other person was horde, and you were alliance....I'd spam a few /cry emotes, and maybe they'd notice you don't want their help.
P.S. Maybe the hordie was smart, and knew by attacking some of the mobs on you, you'd kill slower :P..(Maybe he did it to make you mad...A lot of people know how prot pallies aoe grind, it's not that rare)
As for your case, the other person was horde, and you were alliance....I'd spam a few /cry emotes, and maybe they'd notice you don't want their help.
P.S. Maybe the hordie was smart, and knew by attacking some of the mobs on you, you'd kill slower :P..(Maybe he did it to make you mad...A lot of people know how prot pallies aoe grind, it's not that rare)
/shoe would work better than /cry, gets the point across much easier.
No matter what I'm doing (unless I'm on a warrior) I always give very pissy remarks to people who "help" me. Generally "What the hell are you doing? Leave me alone!"
No matter what I'm doing (unless I'm on a warrior) I always give very pissy remarks to people who "help" me. Generally "What the hell are you doing? Leave me alone!"
Yeah!!!
And you lose exp on those kills!!
I hate that!
On the other hand, I hate getting ganked worse.... so help me or kill me....
ahh... rum please!!!
And you lose exp on those kills!!
I hate that!
On the other hand, I hate getting ganked worse.... so help me or kill me....
ahh... rum please!!!
As I understand it as long as you "tag" an enemy, then you get the XP for its death and if you get outside help, as long as that help is from someone not partied with you, it still yields the full XP: am I correct in this, or am I missing something? If I am missing something, and having 'non-partied help' still decreases the XP you gain, I guess I'll stop randomly "helping" people as well, cause that really sucks.
Maulgak wrote:
As I understand it as long as you "tag" an enemy, then you get the XP for its death and if you get outside help, as long as that help is from someone not partied with you, it still yields the full XP: am I correct in this, or am I missing something? If I am missing something, and having 'non-partied help' still decreases the XP you gain, I guess I'll stop randomly "helping" people as well, cause that really sucks.
In my experience, if I'm fighting several mobs that are all the same type/level, if someone who isn't partied with me "helps" kill the mob, I lose xp proportional to the amount of damage the did as compared to what I did. For example, if something is at 2% and someone runs in and finishes it off, I might lose 10-15 xp. But if someone else does like 50% of the damage done to the mob (not hard if it's not one I'm focusing on) then I'll only get half xp from the kill, and the "helper" gets nothing at all.
This doesn't hold true if you just sit back and heal someone, which is what I normally do when I see someone who needs a hand, unless they specifically ask for help.
Ohhhh, I didn't know that. So, it's not totally beneficial to be a lowbie with a higher level, NOT in your party, running along with you, letting you tag enemies, then blasting them down as it'll decrease the XP you gain, correct?
EDIT: except, you'll be killing things faster of course ... :)
Edited, Dec 29th 2007 12:17am by Maulgak
EDIT: except, you'll be killing things faster of course ... :)
Edited, Dec 29th 2007 12:17am by Maulgak
Also, depending on the level of the person who helped you, you'd get less. If the person can get experience from the mob (i.e. green or higher) you'll get more XP than if a 70 helped you.
You should say something; my guess is people (mostly) just want to help. You can't assume that everyone knows that that's how protection pallies grind.
One day, I helped a young lady in Sorrow Hill. She looked like she was in trouble with some undead, so I threw an exorcism in there, used my Holy Skills to lay waste to those troublesome things (I love the Plaguelands!). She did a /cry, and explained she was skilling up a new weapon. We exchanged pleasantries and I left her to it. Much better than her cursing, spitting, etc.
One day, I helped a young lady in Sorrow Hill. She looked like she was in trouble with some undead, so I threw an exorcism in there, used my Holy Skills to lay waste to those troublesome things (I love the Plaguelands!). She did a /cry, and explained she was skilling up a new weapon. We exchanged pleasantries and I left her to it. Much better than her cursing, spitting, etc.
Yea, I agree it's better to be kind about it: oft times hard to tell if someone is actually in trouble or not. Particularly cause they don't know your spec, your limits, or what you're after.
In the terms of unasked assistance, i hate when I'm trying to level a weapon skill and someone kills the mob I've been grinding on for the last 5 minutes
I let my friend come along on my Strat solo runs, as he is wanting the rare drop epic shield in there for RPing or something like that. I repeatedly tell him I don't want him to touch ANYTHING. He remembers for maybe 10mins, then magically forgets again.
Such I wily scamp...
We all feel your pain. I like the idea for a macro on Holy Shield though. It's like a police car's siren; a warning to GTFO.
Such I wily scamp...
We all feel your pain. I like the idea for a macro on Holy Shield though. It's like a police car's siren; a warning to GTFO.
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I let my friend come along on my Strat solo runs, as he is wanting the rare drop epic shield in there for RPing or something like that. I repeatedly tell him I don't want him to touch ANYTHING. He remembers for maybe 10mins, then magically forgets again.
i hate peeps like that when i do runs. in dm will go to gather up acouple rooms and next think i know person is almost dead cause he/she desided to tag a mob that was just starting to run to me. or peeps who heal me while a mob is runnning into other mobs (wich i love less pulls) so the pulled mob(s) runs to the person who healed me.
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