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#1 Dec 28 2007 at 7:57 PM Rating: Good
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I've been playing alts for the last 2-3 weeks because sometimes I need a break from that long slow grind through the 60's. Alts are fun but it's always so nice to get back to my druid because, as you know, druids are the ruliest.

Except after I've been away from her for a while I forget where everything is. I kept walking up to stuff in stealth and then mangling it because I'd hit 3 (mangle) instead of 2 (pounce).

Several times I got adds and responded with Shift-Barkskin-Tranquility, a lovely combo that helps... not at all. But I've set up Healbot so the Tranquility button is right next to Regrowth and I kept mixing them up.

Best for last: two or three fights in, I noticed my health was down, so I shifted out of cat and... sat down and ate.

It must have been quite a show for the folks in the Bone Wastes, I tell you.

I am getting old early.

(However, none of this is as bad as my new little undead mage graduating to Hillsbrad. Making the run across the country I checked a sign and said "Oh, Southshore, I'm there!" I was thisclose to just running right in and being all "Hi guys!" to the Alliance guards.)


#2 Dec 29 2007 at 2:00 AM Rating: Default
I'm glad I don't have to deal with relearning things... Me and videogames are like riding a bike... You never forget... But its a very bad saying because i don't like bikes, but i like videogames, so i need a new saying... It's like falling off a log... But ofcource I would be nowhere near a log or nature itself and the whole nature of that saying has nothing to do with the point I am trying to convey... I'd use falling off a horse but it's basicaly the same as the last one... Can anyone help please... I'm just digging myself deeper into the grave I am currently digging for myself...
#3 Dec 29 2007 at 2:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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altism is pretty funny. ive never suffered from the "confused keys" mode that much because i try to bind similar keys for each of my characters (charge/intercept on my warrior is same key as feral charge on my druid, druid heals are scaled same way as shammy heals are etc.) but ive still pulled a few bone-headed moves.

the best i can remember was waaaaaayyyyy back in the day, during an old school 15-man ubrs run on the rend event. i wanted to help out the dps on rend a bit, but i was healing the tank, so i slapped a quick rejuv/regrowth combo on him, then tabbed to rend, smacked him with FF and laid a moonfire on his *** (cause sky lasers are cool!). only, i didnt see any neat white beam hit rend on his big dragon. i shrugged and thought nothing of it, and even tossed a wrath or two, only to get some confusing line of sight errors. i ignored the problem right up to the point that our raid was bumrushed by 23109832109831290 elites that had trained thanks to the moonfire i tagged a random mob with.

to this day i curse the horrible dev that designed WoW's tab targetting system. why target the mob in front of you when you can target one on a balcony overlooking the battle 45 degrees off to your right and 10 yards in the air?!

*grumbling*
#4 Dec 29 2007 at 5:36 AM Rating: Good
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Quor wrote:
to this day i curse the horrible dev that designed WoW's tab targetting system. why target the mob in front of you when you can target one on a balcony overlooking the battle 45 degrees off to your right and 10 yards in the air?!

*grumbling*


So true. Because why should the mob whacking at you be the default target or anything? I mean, even if you just frost nova'd him, there's no reason WoW should assume you mean him and not the guy 40 yards behind you. It's not a mind reader!

Daitsukioni, if it were me, I'd say "It's like eating cake," but maybe that doesn't apply to you as well. :)
#5 Dec 29 2007 at 1:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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So true. Because why should the mob whacking at you be the default target or anything?


i know!

its even worse for me because i came from FF11 and the tab targetting system there is superb. i knew exactly how many taps of the tab i needed to get to a specific target at any given time. in WoW, im still clueless after more than three years :(
#6 Dec 29 2007 at 1:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Quor wrote:

its even worse for me because i came from FF11 and the tab targetting system there is superb. i knew exactly how many taps of the tab i needed to get to a specific target at any given time. in WoW, im still clueless after more than three years :(
I'm pretty sure its just about completely random, lemme do some research and get back to this thread.

Research was a dud; All I could find was how to change the distance tab uses, and I don't beleive its against the ToU because it is an advanced settings change and does not affect the playing of the game by adding an unfair advantage over other players. The only real use it targeting things at max distance as a ranged character or targeting your enemies before an arena starts.

Edited, Dec 29th 2007 5:08pm by Mizzoulover
#7 Dec 29 2007 at 5:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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ya, i figured as much. figuring out the logic behind FF11 tab targetting was easy; it goes in expanding concentric arcs starting from the immediate forward left quarter of your character and cycling thru to the right. so if you have a target immediately in front of you to your left, one immediately in front of you but a bit further away than the first, and another far off in the distance to your right, hitting tab three times will bring you to the far one. two tabs will bring you to the one directly in front of you, while the first tab targets the target in front of you and at your left.

with WoW, i swear it opts to target things in the distance over stuff nearby. why it would do that for ranged classes i can understand, but youd think theyd have some kind of close-range logic for melee classes.
#8 Dec 31 2007 at 8:09 AM Rating: Good
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I tab till I see a big skull on the portrait, then I start ripping off its face. From behind. >:D

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#9 Dec 31 2007 at 9:29 AM Rating: Decent
I've simply learned to take half a second and select with the mouse; I don't have time to tab through a bunch of random targets when I'm trying to mangle or lacerate 4 different mobs that I'm tanking at once :X
#10 Dec 31 2007 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good
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mouseover macros help a lot while tanking thats for sure. my complaints about tabbing are mostly pvp oriented. theres a priest RIGHT in front of me, standing next to the shaman im on, and he starts healing. i want to tab to him, pummel, then get back to the shammy to keep MS on him. so what does the tab target? naturally its the hunter 35 yards away. repeated tabbings cycle thru the hunters pet, the warlock (who i swear is behind me) the other warrior, the warlocks pet, and all four shaman totems (hidden behind pillars) before deciding "oh, i guess ill get the priest".

sometimes i can mouse select, but thats dependent on whether or not i need to turn at the time, since i use the mouse to turn. when im turning and i need to switch targets, id REALLY like for tab to actually be useful.
#11 Jan 02 2008 at 5:55 AM Rating: Decent
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If I'm not wrong, the set distance stuff is:

/console SET TargetNearestDistance ##
where ## is 1 to 50
That way, you keep your "tab cycle" closer to you.

You can change the tab to target the mob you have the mouse on, too, I think. At least, I saw a macro like this:

#showtooltip
/cast [target=mouseover,harm,exists] Sunder; Sunder

I'm pretty sure one can change this to focus on a mob wich has mouseover when click tab.

Edit:
I saw this one macro on the O-Boards:

/cast [target=mouseover,nodead,harm] Purge; [target=targettarget, harm, nodead] Purge; [nodead, harm] Purge

If you change the "purge" to Moonfire or something, it basically will cast the spell on your mouseover target (if it's not dead and is an enemy), or it will cast on your target-target (perfect when you have to be always targeting/healing the main tank and would like only to cast a FF or something on the mob) or it will just cast it so you can still solo.
I did not test it yet, but I intend to. If someone could test first, would be much aprecciated.

Edited, Jan 2nd 2008 11:05am by Brisin
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