Arms warrior vs Feral DruidFollow

Greetings druids!

I am a lvl 70 arms warrior, and have been having much difficulty facing off against feral druids (especially in bear form).

Ive got about 5 lvl 70 pvp epics on, and I am using the BS crafted Lionheart blade. MS crits = 550 dmg -_-

Ive tried even shielding up and sundering down the armor, then grabbing the two hander again, but still had almost no effect. Not to mention the heals the druids have access to. To counter the heals I would use first aid, but in the end, I am still overwhelmed by the druids seemingly endless amount of health, and impenetrable armor.

So, I come here not to QQ, but for guidance. Are there any weaknesses of your class that an arms warrior could exploit to his/her advantage? Where would the warrior have the edge on you guys? What should the warrior really be careful of against you guys? etc..

thanks in advance =)

5pt Lacerate + Mangle.

'Nuff said. I usually don't have issues with Warriors, unless they outgear me by a lot. I have the armor, the stuns and the heals to make life hell for a Warrior. However, I've also been slaughtered in record time by Warriors who were heavily geared.

Execute, how I hate thee. It always seems to crit.

Warriors attempting to deal damage are usually in Berserker Stance, but even if they're not Plate with a 2H has a lot less armor than Bear Form. Using a shield turns it into a pure attrition race that the Warrior has absolutely zero hope of winning because they can't regain HP.

Against a geared PvP Feral Druid you can be nearly tanked the entire way down before they'd have to do anything other than sit in Bear Form and keep Lacerate/Mangle up. It's not a good fight for the Warrior.

heh i thought everyone knew that fur=god mode

Acutally lacerate and mangles is really effective. You arn't letting lacerate expire so it's a constant DoT during the entire fight. Maul is probably the least effective attack for the rage cost and should only be used as a rage dump.

Still, unless the warrior gets really lucky on their crits/has a big gear advantage, they arn't going to win toe to toe with a feral in bear form. Why? Imp LotP. With an extended fight like that, a druid will heal a fair chunk of health just off crits which isn't effected by mortal strike. So you not trying to chew your way through 13k hp behind 20k+ armor but more like 18k health. The longer a druid can extend the fight, the more they will heal over the fight and the less chance a warrior actually has to win.

I know somewhere Quor is shaking his head. "Druids should not be able to beat the parent class at their own game!" But with the current mechanics, bear form will win 1v1 against an arms warrior and that is unlikely to change any time soon.

Of course, I prefer to be a little more feral when fighting warriors just to speed up the fight. Pounce and 5p Rip then go bear gives alot of bleed damage to finish them off quickly while they beat helplessly on my armor.

Edited, Dec 28th 2007 4:56pm by SirJac

For the record, my Bear crits for 1200+ with Mangle on Paladin Gladiator armor. Tested it last night. Self-buffed and attacked a Paladin camper. No, I'm not trying to show off, just showing how "lousy" our Bear damage is against plate armor.

Lacerate does excellent damage for the rage cost (once stacked) and it's a bleed effect, meaning the Warrior won't be able to bandage. It's the versatility in the attack that I like, it's not the damage. I also use a 1pt Lacerate to keep Rogues from stealthing/bandaging.

Once Lacerate has been stacked and even if you're spamming Mangle, you should have a heavy amount of rage coming in. Usually when fighting mobs, I go full rage in a matter of seconds, even with Lacerate and Mangles and the occasional Demo Roar. I'm not saying dump Maul for Lacerate, just use Lacerate as well, Selebrin.

Once Lacerate is stacked, I switch to Maul and Mangle spam with a Lacerate once in a while to keep the DoT ticking.

You're playing a Druid, dammit. Stop thinking in black and white.

Edited, Dec 30th 2007 3:43pm by Mazra

Dude. Seriously. Painful.
If you're gonna necropost, at least put in a LITTLE effort.
You're on a computer, not a fkn mbl fon txt'n 2 ur frnz.

This is not about typos or grammatical errors or even the occasional "cuz" for a because...I do all three myself all the time. It's about intentionally spelling things like are and you as r and u every time. God that's annoying.

You'll tell me to bugger off or whatever you kids say to old people you think are being grumpy, but trust me writing like you do annoys 98% of the people who read it, and makes it less likely that you'll be listened to, or get help when you need it. Please just consider this friendly(ish) advice to help you not be so annoying.

- Capitalize the first words of sentences.
- Occasional line breaks are worth their weight in gold.
- r = are
- wen = when
- ur = you're
- u = you
- noe = know
- there health = their health
- An ellipsis (that's the ... thing you abuse to no end) is not punctuation necessary on every damn sentence. Try a period every once in a while.
- I'm sure you are a very funny person, but lol'ing at every other statement is just silly. At least save it for when you're trying to be funny.


EDIT: PLEASE let's not let the fact that this one grumpy old man couldn't hold back his criticism turn this thread into a big off-topic debate about whether or not "ritn lik tis" is annoying or not. For the record, I myself won't participate or respond to any messages on the matter, and I hope you won't either. Have a nice day.

And no, Dundermifflin is not a sock puppet of mine, lol. : )


Edited, Jan 8th 2008 10:53am by JeeBar

Edited, Jan 8th 2008 10:55am by JeeBar

This is all very good advice and all, but seriously the only three ways for a fury warrior to beat a feral druid are:

- Out gearing the druid by a lot!
- If the druid is a complete noob
- If you bring a friend

Sorry but that's the way it is. When I'm pvp'in i can usually take out two warriors at the same time without even needing to heal mid fight. Same goes with warrior and rogue, except skilled rogues do complicate things a bit more.

I hate to say this but you chance of beat feral not that great. It can be done but you have to out damage druid & save you stuns to stop him from healing and hope for the best.

arms warriors typically have a talent called second wind. what this talent does is, anytime the warrior is rooted or stunned, he regenerates 10% of his max health and 20 rage over 10 seconds. essentially, anytime you feral charge a warrior, you're healing that warrior for 10%. considering that feral charge is on a 15s cooldown, a druid who feral charges as often as possible is at a significant disadvantage.

Edited, Jan 9th 2008 4:17pm by Quor