Vorpil - Grandmaster of cloth deathFollow

Well first let's start off with the main thing, his health. Your priest'shealth pool is a bit low, he should have around 7k-8k health, and that's not very hard to achieve. You're his guildmate, help him get that health by running instances with him/her.

Another thing you can do is set up the fight. Have him whip up a Lightwell around the Rain of Fire hotspot, not directly on it, but near it.

The Rain of fire does around 900dmg per second, either he is getting relly bad lag or just not moving fast enough.

Health pots will always help. Try to have the +1k health buff up if you're a warrior.

I hope that helps, if there are any other issues just bring it up and I'll do my best to help ya out.

Are we talking about non-heroic Slabs? I assume we are since the Priest is 69. In which case, no, he should not be expected have 7-8k health in Outland pre-heroic greens and blues. He could maybe have 5-6k tops. Try to remember what it's like not to be a decked-out 70, please.

That said, unless Vorpil's full-party Shadowbolt blasts are lowering his health down below 1000, he should not be dying anyways. The fight should still be perfectly doable with 4.5k health. One tick from Vorpil's AoE should do roughly 850 damage if I remember correctly. A shield should absorb that easily if it's up, and if it's not, he shouldn't be taking more than a single hit anyways.

As soon as Vorpil teleports you guys to his pedastal, your Priest needs to immediately turn and jump off the front or to either side. Like I said, he shouldn't be taking more than one tick max for ~850 damage. If he is, then he's not reacting fast enough and it's the process that's getting him killed, nothing else.

EDIT: Spelling.

Edited, Dec 24th 2007 3:13pm by Gaudion

My Mage and Warlock achieved 8k health easily at 70. Maybe Priests have lower health pools since they can heal themselves. I'm not exactly sure, but that could make sense.

Anyways, it also depends on his mana pool, he probably was trying to conserve his mana during the fight because he knows that this boss does some serious AoE.



Yeah, rep grind those instances with him while collecting the blues from there. Then move on to Heroics. He will only get better gear, and you will also in the process.

My 66 Resto Druid has 6k health with only MotW on. I certainly hope that this Priest had more 4.5k health with Fortitude? Also, I'm wearing ALL priest cloth healing gear excluding my Helm. The simple answer is that your Priest is under-geared. 7k Health should be easily attainable at 70, even more with some decent buffs. Fortitude, Commanding Shout, Blood Pact, all these things contribute significantly to your health. I can't see how he only had 4.5k health with a Power Word: Fortitude and a Commanding Shout, without being significantly under/improperly geared.

Have the priest grind AV for some pvp pieces to go along with his normal stuff.

A lot of healing cloth has no +stam on it before Heroics/Kara. That said he should aim for the pvp pieces with mp5 on them, because they have no spirit.

Hybridize that with some good pve pieces and you've created a beast that can take a couple of hits.

Maybe there should be some sort of amendement to the healer heal order rules... Instead of "Tank, OT, yada yada" it should be "tank/self, OT, etc"

And the keyboard-turning may also be a problem. I should tell him to just mash both mouse buttons the minute he sees the teleport flash. I was pretty well over-geared for the instance, even if he ran the wrong way I was likely not going down before he could run back around to where we were.

All this talk about the stam differences in classes has me wondering - I know early on (which is the only time I've really paid attention to it) my, paladin would get different stats than my mage or priest on level.

It makes me curious what the base health of a naked 70 priest is compared to a naked mage, druid or lock.

No that's not a come on, Poldy. Well not entirely.

Well I'm bored so i logged in my priest to check. level 70 undead male naked stats

3801 hp
4485 mana
38 str
43 agi
59 sta
143 int
156 spr
86 armor

lvl 70 Draenei Male

3781 hp
4530 mana
40 str
42 agi
57 sta
146 int
153 spirit
84 armor

:p

Hmmm ok now to find a naked Mage for comparisons sake.

Poldy? Care to strip?

OK quickly (and behind a treee) because honestly no one wants to see this....


Male Dwarf Paladin Lvl 70

HP : 4627
Mana: 3903
Str: 128
Agi: 73
Sta: 143
int: 82
Spr: 88
Armor: 146

The skinny of things are that priests as a whole do start lacking severly in hp as they specialize in +healing. Greens of the prophet lack hp...they have int/spirit and +healing. The reason mages/locks have higher health pools is that thier gear has stam/int. Its not that hard to figure out really. Tell your priest to use binding heal a lot in there. It heals both the target and the priest. He can keep you up and keep healing himself as well. My priest is 67 and I have 5.5 hp with 8.7 mana and 1k healing. I sacrifice some hp for my +healing healing gear thats specialized more for priests and not mage/warlock gear (stam/int). The reason I sacrificed some hp is that my guildies are running me through all the 70 instances and with my +healing and mana pool, Im fine to heal a competent group.

Big thing to remember is that having a small hp pool he needs to keep his shield up when he knows he's gonna take damage and use binding heal liberally. Its kinda hard on the mana pool but if he has decent mp/5 and a decent mana pool to start with, you guys should have no problems. Also if you guys are decently geared group besides the priest, tell him to use mage/lock caster gear for the encounter. With my day to day quest gear if Im not running instances, I can easily hit 6300 hp. Just an idea though as my healing takes a bit of a dip (1000 healing down to 700). Hope this helps!

Edited, Dec 27th 2007 9:11am by verosa

So, how long did it take before you remembered you were supposed to be looking at the stats?

Geez, talk about getting a look at someone's mental state!