Defense ratingFollow

Why is it when i put these on http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?source=live;witem=27739 I only get an extra 9 defense rating. When i look at my defense rating with no shoulders on it is at 448 and i add these i get 457. I am level 70 human. Any idea? I even have the correct color gems socketed so i get the extra 3.

Mike

Edited, Dec 23rd 2007 3:22pm by hamletarcher

Well i don't think so, I am looking at my section that shows, ARMOR, defense, dodge, parry, block and resiliance. http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Norgannon&n=Mikeman

That is a link to armory, defense is 457, when i take the shoulders off, it shows 448.

Mike

It takes about 2.2 defense rating to get one point of Defense.

Dilbrt is correct: Defense rating != Defense.

If you mouse over your "Defense: 457", you'll see it says "Defense Rating 208 (+87 Defense)".

So one point of defense rating won't give you one point of Defense.

According to http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Defense
2.36 Defense rating = 1 Defense.

Please don't fall into this trap. Some days it may very well be the healer, but I can tell you right now you're not geared for heroic tanking**. You're making things needlessly hard on the healer and there's only so fast they can get heals off.

Yes, mobs hit HARD in heroics. Hard, and often fast. You can still be critted, your mitigation is pretty bad too (why did you go holy and not go into the ret tree for your remaining points?). Add all of that together and even with the best healer you're going to be tough to keep up.

The best mentality you can have as a tank (and I would pretty much say as a player) is to not blame other people for shortcomings and failures. Particularly when you don't have room to talk. Sure there are going to be obvious idiots, but until you're squared away for something, it's just as much your fault as anyone else's. And the longer you blame other people the less you'll fix what needs fixing with your toon and the more miserable you'll make everyone in the meantime.

The good thing is that you're probably geared well enough for the regulars that you shouldn't need to swap back to holy to gear up. Just run the stuff that drops the gear on the gear sticky. When you get yourself squared away then try heroics again.

**actually I'm sort of confused by your gear - I wondered when I saw the healing libram if it was your PVP set but then I saw all the defense gear. Icy weapon enchant? Str/Stam gems? AP/Stam gems? SPIRIT ench on the chestplate??

Please tell me you're joking about them having all that. Please.

Well first off i do agree with the Jadeskull breastplate that seems to be a much better chest piece. But you said Keepers of time? Im guessing the Continuum Blade? How is that better then the one i have? I have looked for diffent pants to wear and can't find anything with a higher defense rating on them. Unless you were talking about the Timewarden's leggings?

As far as enchant on weapon, i have the enchant for the spell damage just haven't put it on my weapon. Chest piece I didn't think the extra 150 health would make any difference.

And i am almost exalted with Sha'tar so i will have the Crest of the Sha'tar shield soon, which should help some.

Mike

p.s. Well i honostly didn't know they had lowered the Heroic Key requirements. I am just trying to get better in the game, and obviously that would mean better gear. I don't mind being cruel as long as it helps me in the end, im not a little kid who gets mad about everything. If it helps me in the game (which in turn helps me in my guild) then i welcome it.

Mike


Edited, Dec 24th 2007 10:02pm by hamletarcher

We ran that run 3 times today no drop, how i got to revered about 5k in rep today, guild runs, There are several in my guild wanting to get exalted with sha'tar so it makes it pretty easy to get runs.

U talked about my relic, i couldn't seem to find any with defense on the, any ideas of a good one?

And are u a tanking pally as well? if so can u link your character so i can look at it please.

Mike

Thanks for the advice on the relics, Very nice setup u have. I was looking at your build, interesting. Obviously it works well, alot of good equipment u have as well. Im along ways from getting most of that stuff, but i will get there in time.

I was looking at your character and u had A'dal's song of battle on, were did u get that at? i can't find it.

Thanks for everyones advice, and sorry if i seem like a noob at times.

mike

Edited, Dec 25th 2007 8:20am by hamletarcher

Sorry about that, i did get the spell damage to weapon enchant today, i hadn't purchased the new rod to make it. Spent the gold today to get it, and enchanted my armor with the health, also picked up the enchant on my shoulders as well today. Just finished another bot run, no shield, wanna do mech for the legs.

Got the figurine on my 3rd SH run, i like it ok, it only heals for 120 and sometimes it does for 180 not sure what that is from? I don't think this gets a bonus from healing that i have.

Mike

That's strange, I was still about .1% short of uncrittable and managed to OT Kara and tank Heroic BM and Mech w/o any problems. I'm up over 500 defense now (still best avoidance/budget, I believe) and will continue to stack as much as I can until I'm fully uncrushable w/ Holy Shield up. Can't get crushed by them bosses. That's druid turf and they can keep it.