What do you guys think the trend will be now? I'm betting a 20/41 maces build and probably more 41/20/0 builds.
Also, given the choice, with PvP and raids in mind, would you want a 20/41 build with mace or sword spec? Im think about do either one. Help is appreciated.
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If I was gonna PVP as combat (which I most likely will) I would go 17/44 to allow you to pick up all the nice damage increasing talents in combat as well as getting Endurance, Imp Sprint, and Imp Kick.
That's just me though.
That's just me though.
With druids being the dominating presence they are currently, picking up the poison talents is a good idea.
That's true, I didn't think of that.
Having been 20/41/0, 0/26/35, and a ShS build with maces, I'm going to experiment with daggers once more. I'm going for a Daggers ShS, with the rest of the points in sub, and then with them in combat. Then I'm going to do a variation of that for Mutilate. Should be fun, considering I've been either mashing Hemo or SS for the last 100 hours played.
Hope it doesn't mess up my Arena teams too badly. Of course they're not very good to begin with, thanks to bad coordination with my mage partner, and a horrible Ele Shammy in my 3v3.
Hope it doesn't mess up my Arena teams too badly. Of course they're not very good to begin with, thanks to bad coordination with my mage partner, and a horrible Ele Shammy in my 3v3.
That would make your tests a poor indicator of the builds wouldn't it?
You can try 31 in Combat and rest in Assassination to pick up the poisons, I'll tinker with that on my Rogue if I ever get around to it.
You can try 31 in Combat and rest in Assassination to pick up the poisons, I'll tinker with that on my Rogue if I ever get around to it.
I'm 31/0/30 hemo this week for arena. My other option is 11/26/24, but I like the burst that 31/0/30 has to offer.
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I'm 31/0/30 hemo this week for arena. My other option is 11/26/24, but I like the burst that 31/0/30 has to offer.
Wowzers a cold blood hemo build does that work let me know how it does sounds crazy? And isnt 11/26/24 a raiding build?
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I'm 31/0/30 hemo this week for arena. My other option is 11/26/24, but I like the burst that 31/0/30 has to offer.
Wowzers a cold blood hemo build does that work let me know how it does sounds crazy? And isnt 11/26/24 a raiding build?
Jesus Christ man. English.
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Wowzers a cold blood hemo build does that work let me know how it does sounds crazy? And isnt 11/26/24 a raiding build?
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"Let's eat, Grandpa."
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Edited, Dec 23rd 2007 2:02am by Jonofthedead
well, Ive been 17/44 for about 3 days, and I love it. First time to ever finish in AV in first in KBs. Massive burst dmg, more than 41/0/20 (Which i was forever) and i did about 10 arena matches with my warrior buddy, we went undefeated, we never came close to loosing, both of us on the healer, they never got a heal off, you need to try this build.
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Jesus Christ man. English.
I love how you guys are so worried bout grammer! Did I get my point across? Because obviously you have no real response to it, lets not worry so much about how I type and worry about what the thread is for - progressing as a collective.
It seems to me daggers are garbage less you're a mutilate build.
And yes Theo 11/26/24 is a raid build (I figured I'll answer it for you).
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well, Ive been 17/44 for about 3 days, and I love it. First time to ever finish in AV in first in KBs. Massive burst dmg, more than 41/0/20 (Which i was forever) and i did about 10 arena matches with my warrior buddy, we went undefeated, we never came close to loosing, both of us on the healer, they never got a heal off, you need to try this build.
I shifted back to combat maces right when I heard they were taking sub to the chopping block. It can work for PVE as well but dont expect to be on top of the damage meters. Trust me though maces definitly have a purpose on the ride up to bosses a well timed stun can help a lot (and the crit damage bonus is just icing along with the other talent bonus). So if your looking for a happy medium between PVP/PVE maces is the way to go IMO.
notap wrote:
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Jesus Christ man. English.
I love how you guys are so worried bout grammer! Did I get my point across? Because obviously you have no real response to it, lets not worry so much about how I type and worry about what the thread is for - progressing as a collective.
It seems to me daggers are garbage less you're a mutilate build.
And yes Theo 11/26/24 is a raid build (I figured I'll answer it for you).
11/26/24 is a DPS build, not a raiding build. On a drain team, it'd work well.
(Un)fortunately, my team isn't a drain team, ergo I'll be varying my build until I find the right build. This week I went 7-3 (as I did last week) with 31/0/30, and the week before I was ShS.
Grammar is important, as is spelling. Sometimes I let my caps go (usually when posting from my iPhone, since caps are a PITA on it), but most of the time I'll post in complete sentences, proper punctuation, and proper grammar.
I have a reputation to uphold, after all.
BTW, if I don't respond to your posts if they're directed after me, it probably means that I think the post is self-explanatory if you have a brain, which you apparently don't.
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BTW, if I don't respond to your posts if they're directed after me, it probably means that I think the post is self-explanatory if you have a brain, which you apparently don't.
You sir, crack me up! That "BTW" made me **** myself, I must have struck a cord for you to tell me you don't respond to things even though you just did...wow.
So I'm glad you kept your reputation by telling me my grammEr is still bad, guess what, I. Still. Don't. Care.
Could you please link me to a thread explaining that drain spec I would love to read up on it or really just link me to something that proves its a played spec. I have a hard time beliving you would go that far down combat and not get AR only 5 points away.
As for your current build 31/0/30 if it works for you right on boss, I'm just saying that there is way better builds to be running thats all.
BTW If you write something directed to ME I will respond whether I'm getting blasted, praised, or even if the question is stupid. I am not one to be an **** unless u really deserve it (and trust me it takes a lot! ;p). I will give my honest opinion about the subject at hand and nothing else,I expect the same from everyone else because I want to be as effecient as everyone else.
notap wrote:
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BTW, if I don't respond to your posts if they're directed after me, it probably means that I think the post is self-explanatory if you have a brain, which you apparently don't.
You sir, crack me up! That "BTW" made me **** myself, I must have struck a cord for you to tell me you don't respond to things even though you just did...wow.
So I'm glad you kept your reputation by telling me my grammEr is still bad, guess what, I. Still. Don't. Care.
Could you please link me to a thread explaining that drain spec I would love to read up on it or really just link me to something that proves its a played spec. I have a hard time beliving you would go that far down combat and not get AR only 5 points away.
As for your current build 31/0/30 if it works for you right on boss, I'm just saying that there is way better builds to be running thats all.
BTW If you write something directed to ME I will respond whether I'm getting blasted, praised, or even if the question is stupid. I am not one to be an **** unless u really deserve it (and trust me it takes a lot! ;p). I will give my honest opinion about the subject at hand and nothing else,I expect the same from everyone else because I want to be as effecient as everyone else.
You wouldn't get AR because it doesn't matter in a drain build. The goal is to keep the highest DPS on your target, and AR isn't going to help with that, especially next patch.
The only thing AR does right now against good teams is get you CCd.
Reading comprehension could really help in your case; I was responding to your post because I felt that you needed answering, because you honestly have no idea what you're talking about.
I'd really love to see a link to your rogue's armory profile, just to laugh at your ratings/gear.
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You wouldn't get AR because it doesn't matter in a drain build. The goal is to keep the highest DPS on your target, and AR isn't going to help with that, especially next patch.
The only thing AR does right now against good teams is get you CCd.
The only thing AR does right now against good teams is get you CCd.
Sure a good team would see AR, but a good player would save it till they know they can use it. And I honestly can't belive what I'm hearing AR isn't going to give you the highest dps in say 2v2? I think if anyone is being thick headed its you.
As far as my rating and gear goes I wouldn't want to make you laught too much maybe I should join up on your server and give a lvl 1 boot up the **** lol!
But for realz please gives me a response I needs to be comprended on!
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give you Theo...give you a lvl 1 boot up the *****
Look I fixed myself! And i only did it because I'm enjoying myself with you on this festive Xmas, by the way Happy Xmas!
give you Theo...give you a lvl 1 boot up the *****
Look I fixed myself! And i only did it because I'm enjoying myself with you on this festive Xmas, by the way Happy Xmas!
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You wouldn't get AR because it doesn't matter in a drain build. The goal is to keep the highest DPS on your target, and AR isn't going to help with that, especially next patch.
The only thing AR does right now against good teams is get you CCd.
The only thing AR does right now against good teams is get you CCd.
Sure a good team would see AR, but a good player would save it till they know they can use it. And I honestly can't belive what I'm hearing AR isn't going to give you the highest dps in say 2v2? I think if anyone is being thick headed its you.
As far as my rating and gear goes I wouldn't want to make you laught too much maybe I should join up on your server and give a lvl 1 boot up the **** lol!
But for realz please gives me a response I needs to be comprended on!
Damage and drain builds aren't based around 8 SSs in 15 secs. That's a burst build.
If you haven't learned that AR != DPS, you need to pay attention to more build discussions.
There's very little you can do to not get CCd during AR, but yeah, you can do it. Unfortunately, you have to consider this: are you and your team good enough to not get CCd during that time?
And finally I get my way an honest awnser no bullhunker! Right now its me and a feral druid and we kind of rely on the big damage AR puts out. As of now I suppose its good to go we really just play our 10 games and stay about the 1500-1600 area and dont have to worry about opponets cc's when I do it.
So now we are being civil now how do you rotate EA in against clothies? I usually CS SnD AR then spam ss till bout 3 and KS?
See that wasn't so bad being nice and explaining your point to me and I thank you for it.
So now we are being civil now how do you rotate EA in against clothies? I usually CS SnD AR then spam ss till bout 3 and KS?
See that wasn't so bad being nice and explaining your point to me and I thank you for it.
notap wrote:
And finally I get my way an honest awnser no bullhunker! Right now its me and a feral druid and we kind of rely on the big damage AR puts out. As of now I suppose its good to go we really just play our 10 games and stay about the 1500-1600 area and dont have to worry about opponets cc's when I do it.
So now we are being civil now how do you rotate EA in against clothies? I usually CS SnD AR then spam ss till bout 3 and KS?
See that wasn't so bad being nice and explaining your point to me and I thank you for it.
So now we are being civil now how do you rotate EA in against clothies? I usually CS SnD AR then spam ss till bout 3 and KS?
See that wasn't so bad being nice and explaining your point to me and I thank you for it.
I only use EA on openers. CS, hemo, EA and then my druid usually opens.
AR honestly won't get you very far with a feral druid unless your druid plays very defensively, with heals, cyclone, roots, etc. My druid plays very offensively, with the only time he really CCs being against BoP'd targets, most of the time it's usually me sapping and blinding.
Personally, AR isn't anything special; don't get me wrong, it's nice, but it's nothing like everyone makes it out to be.
my real problem is that I need to have a happy medium between PVP and PVE thats why I am full combat maces. I know I know maces aren't as good for pve as swords but it is means to an end once I get enough points for both vengeful swords we are going to stop everything and do nothing but pvp and try our damndest to get 1850. Hopefully it works out alright If not I guess I'll have to get the merc swords instead.
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"Let's eat Grandpa!"
Vs.
"Let's eat, Grandpa."
Punctuation, it can save lives.
Vs.
"Let's eat, Grandpa."
Punctuation, it can save lives.
or better yet
"I helped my uncle jack off a horse"
"I helped my uncle Jack off a horse"
Grammer!
because no matter how good it is you still cant use capitals for *************
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