Anyways i like the look of both of them but rascial talents wise what should i pick? i wanna be demo speced so will that 5% pet attack plus be worth it? And i will be on a PvE if that matters.
I prefer orc racials for pve. Having another trinket (Blood Fury) is IMO way better than WotF in pve, and extra pet dmg is nice as a demo lock. Extra stun resist is nice for pvp too.
And if you don't want your toon to look like Arnold in a dress... roll female orc.
If you're really low, cannibalize can be used on a separate timer than bandages, health stone, and pots. You have your own built-in health and mana management system... Just my opinion and the way I play.
Even playing on a PvE server, you will probably end up doing some PvP, including BGs and Areana's. You may not, you may find you hate them, but if you do, you'll wish you had WotF.
Though I'll agree, if your main focus is PvE, Instancing and Raiding, the "trinket" is nice, and the extra pet damage can be useful while soloing and farming.
...and this differs from life tap, life tap, life tap, bandage exactly how?
Cannibalize ticks for more health and doesn't keep your bandage on cooldown for when you might need it (in combat).
Anyway, if I did nothing but raid I'd go orc for an extra damage trinket. If I did nothing but PVP I'd go undead, and if I did a mix of both I'd still go undead. If I didn't do anything seriously (PVP, hardcore raiding) it really doesn't matter what you pick.
Orcs in my opinion are better suited for pve cannibalize is nice but u can bandage or eat blood fury is amazing and command is quite nice as well plus if u pvp you have a less chance to be stuned. Since you like the look of both of them I would go with orc
Ok i think i will go with undead i like their look slightley better plus undead and warlocks pretty much go together=) I dont know if i'll only pve so i gusse undead is the best choice from the information you guys gave thanks.
Cannibalize. I hear people saying you can bandage/eat. That costs $$, you could vendor/AH thoose resources, think of how much $$ you will save over your characters time. Food only out of combat & bandage is on a timer. While cannibalize is free. Cannibalize makes you want to grind humanoids/undead since there the free resource available to you. "life tap, life tap, Cannibalize"
generally speaking. orc > undead for pve. undead > orc for pvp. BUT the orc stun resist racial is still amazing. get the 5% resist meta and you've got a nice bonus in pvp vs those bloody stupid rogues and mace spec warriors.
I went undead for a few reasons. Canibalize is awesome for reducing down time, and it scales with my hp, so if with 200 hp or 14k hp it will heal me for the same % of my total, bandages do not, plus I'm a tailor so I wanted to be able to use as much of my cloth for profs as possible while leveling.
WotF > Stun resist IMO. I have a 70 nelf rogue and I can honestly say I think of all the stuns I have used, a very small handful have been resisted. if it were double the chance to resist a stun I might consider it.
As a die hard afflictionist (generally 40/0/21 or 42/19/0) my pet seldom attacks, unless I have a succy out the odd time we actually use CC in an instance or the felpup is gnawing on a rogue that decided to play. Otherwise its a passive imp.