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#1 Dec 20 2007 at 1:12 AM Rating: Decent
Hey, I've been playing WoW for about four months now, mooching off my college roomie's brother's account (he's never on), and I'm about to get my own account. And since I'm too cheap to transfer a character, I started thinking about which class to go with for my first (new) toon. I've been playing a lock to 52, but now I feel like doing melee dps, and I looked at my options. All my friends are warriors (weird, I know), I tried a ret pally and found it didn't quite have the output I was looking for, I just think rouges are too squishy (and complicated), and I want to heal myself if at all possible. So, I thought, either a feral Druid or an enhance Shammy. Now I know it depends on gear and stuff, but in your guys opinion, which does more dps and is taken in by groups more?

Thanks for input in advance, sorry about wall of text.
#2 Dec 20 2007 at 3:20 AM Rating: Good
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either or. both are good, but as an enh shammy you really wont be able to tank too much. you CAN tank, but its kind of a haphazard thing, and you generally either need to outlevel the instance, or have a healer who has the instance outleveled.

druids of all specs can tank, heal, and dps at least at a passable level (when geared right). so i suppose druids would have the slight edge, altho it becomes a matter of whether you have the gear to support it. all agi/str gear does not a healer make, regardless of what spells you have.
#3 Dec 20 2007 at 4:45 AM Rating: Decent
i agree with quor here, ive got a feral druid and he is great from tanking/dps but cant reali heal that well, i can just about do 3000+ which as a backup healer its quite useful as we can do 150% mana regan on any target (not sure if other class's have a ability like it) but with each ability we need the equipment to support it.

thats why quite a few if not all druids normally have 2-4 sets of gear (healing, tanking, dps (spell and feral))
#4 Dec 20 2007 at 7:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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plainwalker wrote:
agree with quor here, ive got a feral druid and he is great from tanking/dps but cant reali heal that well

You extended Quor's statement to include something I don't think he said or meant to say--that being the part about feral druids not being able to heal really well. I'd disagree with that commment, as the ability to heal any (non-heroic) 5-man instances (with the help of a healing set), which many feral druids including myself have said is not just possible but practical, indicates that our healing is just fine.

plainwalker wrote:
as we can do 150% mana regan on any target (not sure if other class's have a ability like it)
Innervate is great, but not unique. Some other classes even have the ability to regen mana across their entire party, namely shadow priests and shammies with their totems.

To the OP, I'd personally say druid is the more common, more flexible, and therefore safer route. Across our three specs you can be a top-shelf melee DPS, tank, caster DPS, or healer...and a solid option at 2 or 3 out of 4 in any spec.

At least on my server on alliance side shammies are rare, while there's lots of druids these days. So if you want to be more unique, roll a shammy. If you want the class that has even more versatility, and don't mind being one of a what is unfortunately a relatively "popular" class, roll druid.

I've been spoiled as a druid...I've rolled an alt of every class and can't stay away from my druid. Druids, now, actually...70 feral and 20 balance...my favorite alt, lol. I found that I even had trouble sticking to a shammy...the lack of stealth and inability to tank turned me off.
#5 Dec 20 2007 at 8:15 AM Rating: Good
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IMHO it depends on how you want to level and where you get your fun. With a 70 feral druid and a 56 enh shammy I prefer the feral druid pretty much in all cases. My druid can change his equipment from tank to DPS to mediocre healer (I have 14 pieces of +healing gear and trinkets). I have concentrated on tanking gear and picked up a lot of so-so healing gear along the way. My experience as I pretty much soloed my way to 70 (and 56 as shammy) is that the feral cat druid with switch to bear as a backup was much easier than as the enh shaman. Feral druid uses rage primarily and mana only as backup heals and buffs. Shaman in full combat goes through mana like crazy. Still, the shaman is fun with all that crashing and banging as shocks and windfury and stormstrike go off. But, the druid could coast through +2-3 level mobs and if you don't get a good set of procs and crits the shammy is hard put to gnaw down even a single +2 level mob without going low on mana and health. With the right set of flash/bang procs and crits then its easy. Otherwise its a long fight.

Summary:
feral druid can get very good at tank/DPS and mediocre healer (enough for most normal instances with some gear investment). I really don't at this point think the enh shaman can fulfill much beyond the DPS role and the same normal instance healing if you get a good set of +healing gear in reserve.
#6 Dec 20 2007 at 6:10 PM Rating: Good
I've been leveling my Shammy lately (level 36) and it can be really tough early on. My druid, hunter, priest & mage were all much easier to level. If my Shammy pulled an add it seemed like a death almost always resulted. At lower levels, the "taunting" totem seemed to die before I had killed the first mob and I would be getting pounded by both mobs again.

Now that I am a bit higher level, I kill things quicker (windfury FTW) and the "taunt" totem seems to work pretty well. Also, between the grounding totem & earthshock, casters become so easy as well.


Still compared to my druid who seemed to always be able to handle 2-3 mobs the same level or single elites of about the same level, the shammy seems like hard work at this stage. I think the druid has a bit more flexibility, being able to handle 4 roles compared to the shammys 3 (shammys can't really tank). Add to this the ability to stealth and I think the druid wins but then maybe I am a little bit biased :)
#7 Dec 21 2007 at 12:03 AM Rating: Decent
Cool, thanks for the help. I'm kinda leaning towards feral druid actually, since I know how annoying they can be in PvP. Speaking of which, I'm probably going to be PvPing a lot, should that make a difference in my choice between the two?
#8 Dec 21 2007 at 3:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Not really, both are good in a pvp situation.
#9 Dec 21 2007 at 6:15 AM Rating: Decent
JeeBar wrote:
You extended Quor's statement to include something I don't think he said or meant to say--that being the part about feral druids not being able to heal really


sorry didnt actaully mean it that way, i meant my druid doesnt seem to heal that well and didnt know if it was just my druid. i know druid are great healers just my experance when healing on my feral druid seems quite weak, sorry if it seem like some thing else, not that great at english (as you can probally tell)
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