Your Goddamn Mana Pool...Follow

I know a warlock who does this to get the socket bonus. And I've seen it on a hunter one time.





As a mage, 100% true. As a healer, it's still kind of a big deal. Not the biggest deal, but it's a big deal.



I prefer to judge my ***** size by my...***** size.




Yeah, you can't fix stupid sometimes. Just make sure he's actually stupid and not ignorant.

I'd actually put Spell Haste above mana. But Filter's main point is it's not something you actually have to worry about. You get the mana you'll need from your raid gear that gives you all the other stuff.

Actually I would put spell hit at the top of the list. All the damage in the world won't help if you get resisted. Otherwise pretty right on.

roflmao....

I ran BF on my pally (tankadin) with a 70 mage who thought he was the shizzle with his 40/21/0 build. It was so funny as I was able to hold aggro from him unless he AP-POM-Pyroed. He spend a lot of the time trying to convince me that 40/21/0 is the best mage spec for everything. I mean everything... like BG, Arena, Instances and raiding. I looked at his gear and he didn't even have a single kara epic (so I'm like... wtf? What do you know about raiding).

With some people, there is no reasoning, so I guess they remain stupid.

Oh... I have 10K mana, so I'm uber, now STFU and finish the sticky!

Actually, I've met some people that ran Kara for their first time and actually knew what gear is for raiding,and the statistics and strategies for almost every boss. You can study WoW, you know.

It could be much much much worse!!!!!! Trust me I know!!

The mage class lead for our raiding guild, refuse's to spec outta arcane because it would lower her mana pool under 10k. The thing is she is a Heavy Arc/Fire build. No.. this isn't like Kara and such we are talking about this is TK. She also made the revelation of... she only has 90 hit!! And thats why my heavy Fire pure raid build out DPS's her. No reason other than her hit. I sure isn't her lack of knowing how to play a mage. At 44 Arc, she spams Scorch with the occasional Fireball thrown in. She started doing this when it was pointed out to her, that I was doing way more dps than her in worse gear. Like.. it was cause I was shooting FBs that made me do that much damage. She doesn't cast AM.. and I have NEVER seen her use AB!!!

But but... fully raid buffed she has almost 13k Mana!!! And with over 3k less than her, I never run oom in boss fights, and always have 3-5% more damage then her. And this is with us both in the same party and always the same composition for raids, SP, Boomkin, 2 mages, and either a lock, mage, pally or shaman as the 5th depending on who is there.

I will put it this way, last night on Gruul's with our AMAZING SP and my Shammy buddy, I never went under 7k mana, and damn was I trying!!! (I worked 30% mana regen while casting into my build because of the lower mana pull makeing me 18/42/1 which believe it or not.. if really effective even if it's not "optimal" hehe)

I know how you feel though OP, me and a few of the leader's go SOO sick of it yesterday we kinda.. well.... we threw a revelution!! We have 2 class leads, the mage above and a SP who is always in the bottom 5 on damage meters, and REFUSES to use VT/VE because she can't control her hate then.... None of our locks are disciplined (we had one give a speech of why he won't use ANY consumable's unless it's a brand new fight (aka killing a boss once means he won't use even stat food again....). I am so sick of "Know it all caster's in general" who can't even tell you off the top of their head how much +hit then NEED for their spec, and can't even tell you a basic spell rotation (lol I use whever is up at the time and feel like casting) that I want to SCREAM!!! Yeah.. basicaly our GM's gave them a week to learn something about their class's and PROVE it.. or guess what there is gonna be a new breed of casters in our raids!! Cause while I am female like the other 2... I am probably more of a serious business raider than most guys out there =P

Lol... that's why I rolled my rogue, though I rolled one trying to figure out the best way to kill them, and ended up really liking them. I R A warlock killer. ;-)

Hit>Spell Haste>+Dmg>Crit

(Spell Haste works in a slightly funky way, in that the first 1% seems to do nothing. After that, though, it;s the cheapest way, item budget wise, to raise dps when hit capped.)

Int can go sulk in a corner.

Cmon Filter, send the ignorant ones to our forum to debate with our leet spreadsheet skills!


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People are just dumb/ignorant or do not listen to others because they are always 'right'. It has been said, so I do not need to state what is most important for mages, but I have only had 10k+ mana twice... when I first started raiding with a 40/0/21 build and last night on tidewalker after I used the elixir that gives 30 int + kings buff. I normally sit around 8500 mana and I rarely go oom (although I have a pretty good pot/gem cycle and am pumped for 2.3.2 for the improved gems).

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO agreeeeeeed.

yea who gives a dam about mana (well till certain levels) damage you want to do as mage have to say im not an expert myself about gear and stuff probs about my still bit low level ;) but when i get to that point im certainly gonna get some advide here :)
Merry X-mas Btw

That makes sense. I will have to try this the next prince fight. I need to pay more attention to using gems and stuff though, i get to launchin flamin balls of fuego and I find it hard to stop.

Can't do damage and kill a boss if you don't have mana.

Edited, Dec 20th 2007 12:15pm by fuganator

Forgive my ignorance, but I'm her to learn. I reciently started a mage for raiding. I understand all the reasoning behind Hit>Spell Haste>+Dmg>Crit but I didn't know that there was a cap on hit. Where should a raiding mage stop adding to his hit chance and focus on damage?

(Edit) I'm 65 and building gear atm. Got the spellfire set and gladiators staff and still building on the spellstrike set)



Edited, Dec 20th 2007 4:37pm by Alvitar