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#1 Dec 19 2007 at 9:24 AM Rating: Decent
I am a 41/20 spec BM Hunter. I am really big into PvP and have been raiding recently(going on 2months now). I wanted to ask the wonderful hunters on Alla a couple of raiding pet questions. I currently have a 70 cat, 70 scorpid, and a 70 warp stalker. I mainly use Humar in PvP and raiding.

1. Which pet will help me max out DPS as best as I can to help raid drop mobs?

2. What pet talents are a must have for raiding?

3. What pet talents are a must have, for PvP?

Thanks in advance, guys.
J


#2 Dec 19 2007 at 9:54 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm just going to answer from my experience with the same spec and running Kara and Gruuls for about the last 4-5 months..

1. Which pet will help me max out DPS as best as I can to help raid drop mobs?
BM is all about sustained DPS; Ravagers and Cats are the top pets for that.

2. What pet talents are a must have for raiding?
Cobra Reflexes, Claw/ Gore, Bite, Avoidance, and survivability passives like stamina and magic resists that are appropriate for the current raid instance.

3. What pet talents are a must have, for PvP?
Same as for raiding just change your resists to shadow and nature, as those are the most detrimental to your PvP survivability (poisons and warlocks)

Pay attention to your pets health at ALL times, because with your pet dead you can't use Bestial Wrath/ Beast Within, weave Mend Pet into your shot rotation because a slight drop in personal DPS is much better than having your pet die causing a significant drop in personal DPS and a 3% drop in damage for your party's DPS. One other thing i'd like to point out also is that in fights/ situations where you pet will die quickly... IT'S OK TO KEEP YOUR PET AT YOUR SIDE WHILE YOU KEEP SHOOTING, YOU'RE PET DOES NOT HAVE TO BE FIGHTING!!! Your pets death lowers your DPS output by at least the 2% you would be getting from the Focused Fire talent, which means its more like 42-45% because your pet really does do THAT much damage, so keeping your pet alive is the most important thing you can do besides keeping yourself alive in any situation.

Sorry just my 2 cents.
#3 Dec 19 2007 at 10:21 AM Rating: Decent
Thanks Katchii. This has pretty much what I have been doing. I guess I just wanted to make sure I wasnt missing something. I dont have Avoidence. I usually keep my pet by my side in boss fights that have a lot of Aoe.

Also, would I be correct to assume for raids and PvP, since my pet doesnt take direct damage, Great Stam > Natural Armor?
#4 Dec 19 2007 at 10:48 AM Rating: Decent
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1. Which pet will help me max out DPS as best as I can to help raid drop mobs?
BM is all about sustained DPS; Ravagers and Cats are the top pets for that.


Ravagers > Cats = Raptors. Wind Serpents are pretty good too (just dont get bite on a WS). Just wanted to point out that cats are not on the very top.
Scorpids used to be good, but got nerfed. Also consider some pets may do more than simply DPS, such as a bat lowering the AP of the mob.

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2. What pet talents are a must have for raiding?
Cobra Reflexes, Claw/ Gore, Bite, Avoidance, and survivability passives like stamina and magic resists that are appropriate for the current raid instance.


First and foremost get cobra reflexes and avoidance. Then get active abilities which will help your pet DPS. Cower is not helpful at all, and you may as well pick up growl as its free (and if you need to OT get it). Then you want the abilities your pet will spend it's focus on - claw if cat/raptor, gore if ravager, screech if bat, and bite for any of them. Avoidance, stamina (not armor as pets shouldnt take much physical damage) and appropriate resistances are what you need here.

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3. What pet talents are a must have, for PvP?
Same as for raiding just change your resists to shadow and nature, as those are the most detrimental to your PvP survivability (poisons and warlocks)

In PvP your pet will probably not be directly attacked much, so you can forego stamina and armor in favor of resistances to those spells which will AoE hit your pet or CC your pet (frost, shadow, and arcane probably). Poisons and DoTs wont hit your pet much, neither will physical attacks. Avoidance really helps here, too.
But before you put on the defensive stats, be sure to get damage. Cobra reflexes, any active abilities you plan on using (dash/dive, screech/claw/gore, bite, lightning breath, charge, poison, etc).

While Katchii commented on PvE raiding, I'll comment a bit on PvP. You have more to look at in PvP than just DPS:
-If you get a DPS pet, your enemy will die faster, so ravager/cat/raptor is good here (raptor is best).
-Cat's prowl is a great tool, either to scout or if you're a NE to set up ambushes.
-Wind serpents can still deal incredible damage while rooted with lightning breath.
-Scorpids and serpents can poison targets, preventing them from bandaging/stealthing (they can still stealth/bandage, but only until the DoT ticks).
-Boars can immobilize the target for a second, which is great in PvP for catching the enemy FR or for keeping people off yours, or other situations where movement is handy (i.e. kiting).
-Bats have screech, and also are incredibly big making it hard for enemies to see what's going on.

Remember, you can always have multiple pets (since you're 70 you can safely get 3 once you've learned all the skills). Get a boar/windserpent for PvP, a ravager for raids, and a bat for soloing (screech AoE FTW) and hey, they'll all be pretty good at all 3, but you have one specially suited for your needs.
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