Warriors Are Best At What?!?!?!?Follow

Yes, that is nice for leveling instances. That will not be the case in heroics and beyond. If I pull aggro in a heroic, the tank better get it back right away or I'm just another greasy smear on the pavement. If it's the wrong mob (those robots in Mech spring to mind), then I'll get one-shot usually.

What's wrong with priest healers?

It depends on the situation, as has already been stated here numerous times. Of course they're different, that's why there are multiple classes that can tank. If they were all the same then there would be no reason to have multiple classes to tank.

Warriors are better than pallies for single-target aggro, thus making them better raid boss tanks.

Pallies are better for AoE tanking trash mobs, thus making them better for 5-man instances.

Yeah, that boss can be pretty brutal without any AE healing, especially if the Paladin also has to dispel the DoT/Stun the elemental boss likes to cast. I'm a big fan of Shaman healers, myself - Earth Shield is awesome and Chain Heal is basically brainless and extremely efficient in any AE situation.

There are so many other items that can be rolled on by different classes, such as neck pieces, cloaks and trinkets and rings. The way I see it is if it will benefit either party member, just roll need on it, regardless. Its quite apparent that in 5 mans the gear you get will be upgraded anyways so if you lose a roll, so what. If a neck piece drops and you(tank), hunter and rogue want it...you should all roll on it, because quite frankly, who says a warrior isn't going to respec back to arms or fury and benefit from the gear? Farming for gold isn't easy when ur prot spec with absolutely no dps gear. I just hate to see people say "Oh well you shouldn't roll on it because its def. hunter gear" or something along those lines.

As for weapons...there is one weapon a tank should shoot for pre kara and thats the Sun Eater. If you get into kara, hope for the King's Defender. If you have either of those weapons, you should at least let dps warriors grab the other weapons if theirs suck.

When it comes to raiding and 2h's, unless your ARMS warrior is specced properly, 2h's are free game to tanks and fury warriors (more common raiding spec imho).

Also, tanks and DPS can't really swap roles if you think about what it takes to tank and what it takes to DPS. If they swap roles, you pretty much just gimped your party.

I laugh at the warrior who says he's dps and does 70k more dmg than me in a whole run, and I'm prot! lol BTW he was 200k - 300k dmg behind the other dpsers, but his gear sucked (which is the point, wartards are very gear dependent!)

It takes routine and skill, besides good gear to DPS effectively. Knowledge of the class is also important. But I think a rogue in greens, compared to a warrior in greens, the rogue will likely out dps the warrior, simply due to class differences from gear dependency and flat dps vs. scaling dps.

Different classes scale differently. And warriors are the top end of the food chain, IMHO, for gear dependency. Which they equate to being a top end class, for which ever path they choose. But it takes gearing and skill (knowledge of class, proper routine use, knowledge of game mechanics) to achieve this goal.

Warrior DPS is great DPS, in regards to true end game gear and player talent. But if you take the same player and stick them in a fresh lvl 70, who is wearing pre-70 gear or worse, leveling gear. They will undoubtedly suck on dps.

Warriors require true group effort to excel. And since WoW is a MMO, this is usually provided for by just playing well, and tolerance for early warrior suckiness.

Warriors are usually considered a necessary part of raiding. Either by MT or DPS, warriors fill vital roles in game mechanics. A 33/28 Blood frenzy/slam build warrior brings a lot to raids, a 17/44 DPS warrior provides quality dps, while both have the bonus of being able to OT almost anything. I shouldn't have to explain warrior tank ability, they are of the 3 tanking classes, the most versatile (with a few exceptions), IMHO.

So as for what warriors are BEST at? Gear hogging, and math.

People doesn't know anything about warriors.

Since Warrior needs only 1 str to get 2 AP Warrior can get fairly easily pretty good AP. We don't have many these kamikaze warriors. Let's say 70lvl warrior who use pure tiger gear about 700 str & 30%40% crit - this kind of setup is not very hard to achieve - does SICK amount of damage, but because everybody think warriors are tankers warriors are every1 #1 target & that's way they prefer stamina over str.

This tiger warrior start the battle. He pop up death wish then reckalness then SS then WW/MS. You can imagine what kind of destruction that will cause.











Edited, Jan 1st 2008 8:30am by SlumpyGiG

I had this party with a priest healer in Heroic BF the other day. Did the instance is about 45 minutes with only one of the mages dying once because of some bad aggro-watching at the fel warriors towards the end. The second boss event was as easy as it could have been when sheeping three out of four of the prisoners. It has got to be said that all of the other members were mostly all epic geared.

IMO, group diversity is overrated.

And btw, the current dps champion in any of my groups is a dps warrior.

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kul+Tiras&n=Vorgoz

The only one who has ever been able to match him for dps was this lock, and he's pretty great as well:

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kul+Tiras&n=Windulak

Both of these outdpses me by some 4x times, and I have 738 unbuffed AP and 12,26% crit in my tanking gear.

If I say some 70lvl warlock have corpse camped me it's an ultimate truth. it's like that wanted you it or not, liked you it or not.

Now say me mr.who where I have told I know anything about warrior as you said? I'm here telling my opinions & my own experiences and my experience tells directly that my warrior does crazy damage in at least BGs.

I have seen my post have deleted many times even I have not bahvin aggresvly towards anybody or should I say every1 knows every1 about warriors?. On the contary your post towards me sense some aggressions. Why? Do I done some bad to you? I don't understand.

I write where I want to as long as I behave under rules as I have done it or are you going delete this post too? as Hitler does to jews more brutal way?


Yes it's WARcraft. It teachs people to hate each other.

If you read my post very closely I said if.IF. I didn't say it was happend in reality. I have posted about some warlock camped, but I did not mentioned then his lvl. If 70 warlock have camped me it's happened even there are noone proofs. I agree that if I say it's not UT.



Now take it easy. This post is so horrible %&%&%%¤. Orginal poster did not say anything about end-game nor 70lvl. He didn't mentioned any level which I 61lvl warrior said my exp about my DPS so far proofing warriors actually can do damage. Yea I have not mentioned any of these green geared DPS or what &&%%% this is?



Do whatever you want but don't wonder why they talk sh*t about you & your reputation.





Edited, Jan 1st 2008 7:30pm by SlumpyGiG

Edited, Jan 1st 2008 7:35pm by SlumpyGiG

No you don't, you like cookies... everybody knows that. Nice try though!

(Sorry, I'm in a bad mood - hung over - so I'm picking fights with everything)

Fury warriors own in dps, as fury I can outdps mages and most locks np. With a fast, high dps off hand a steady mainhand, I have 3 epics, rest rares, 1 green and yesterday in arca i beat a 70 epic druid in dps by 50/60k, not alot but its still ahead.