I've got my druid up to the mid-forties and I love the flexibility it provides. I'm never looking for an instance group long because I can fill any role needed. I'm able to tank instances or heal with little difficulty (well, no skill-set difficulty, I'm still learning both roles and so make mistakes).
Anyway, at what point will that end - Outlands? Lvl 70's? Heroics? When will a feral druid be unable to effectively heal a group for an entire run?
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Never, if you keep your healing set updated.
It gets tougher around the 50's and until you hit the Outland where you will be able to get a pretty decent healing set without actually trying.
It gets tougher around the 50's and until you hit the Outland where you will be able to get a pretty decent healing set without actually trying.
Feral from the start; I started picking up healing gear along the way at 40ish, and just kept upgrading from there. I don't know that I had a full kit until I hit Outland though.
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You are good all the way to Kara and Heroics, both of which require dedicated healers with good gear, Heroics you should be running over 16K bonus heal which if you are focusing your gear aquisitions on feral will be hard. Plus druids especially need the talents given in resto to handle healing heroics. Not to say it's not possible, but I would say REALLY hard to do. Most druids that are jumping roles that HAVE the gear still respec to be able to heal heroics.
Edited, Dec 17th 2007 4:14pm by bunyipww
Edited, Dec 17th 2007 4:14pm by bunyipww
This is good to hear. I really enjoy playing both roles, and it does give me many more opportunities. I'm glad I've still got a long ways to go before i have to decide one or the other.
Thanks for your input.
Thanks for your input.
"Heroics you should be running over 16K bonus heal"
16K?????
Is that even possible, you mean 1.6k surely? :)
16K?????
Is that even possible, you mean 1.6k surely? :)
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Pre-BC you can heal everything just fine (excluding BRD and DM). Once you hit OL the bosses hit much harder...perform set abilities, etc. and the pulls require more CC and coordination. I am currently a 66 resto druid with 685+healing and nearly 8k mana. Don't let anyone convince you that feral healing OL instances will be easy. In fact, I wouldn't take anyone other than a dedicated healer. This isn't because you won't be capable with a solid healing set. It's because DPS tend to be scrubs, CC is sub-par, and finding a non prot-pally tank that can hold even two mobs at once seems to be nearly impossible on my server.
You will be fine as a main tank healer. However, when the AoE damage starts flying. (Shirrak in Sethekk, Pandemonius in Mana Tombs, hell even Nazan can be nasty to melee dps.) There are so many fights that require the DPS to be all over their job. My best example would have to be the Omor fight in Ramparts. He slaps on the nastiest debuff, Treacherous Aura that causes X amount of dmg every 3 seconds to everyone near the debuffed player. I tried this fight with 2 warriors and 2 rogues. Needless to say, when your DPS is bunched it's hell. If you are in a good guild or know some smart people, then go for it.
But I wouldn't count on being able to compensate for the inherent idiocy of other players. As a feral healer, you simple lose all your "Oh ****" buttons, no more swiftmend or natures swiftness as well as inherently weaker heals.
(P.S. If you plan on doing it don't take Nurturing Instinct, the thought makes me /cringe)
You will be fine as a main tank healer. However, when the AoE damage starts flying. (Shirrak in Sethekk, Pandemonius in Mana Tombs, hell even Nazan can be nasty to melee dps.) There are so many fights that require the DPS to be all over their job. My best example would have to be the Omor fight in Ramparts. He slaps on the nastiest debuff, Treacherous Aura that causes X amount of dmg every 3 seconds to everyone near the debuffed player. I tried this fight with 2 warriors and 2 rogues. Needless to say, when your DPS is bunched it's hell. If you are in a good guild or know some smart people, then go for it.
But I wouldn't count on being able to compensate for the inherent idiocy of other players. As a feral healer, you simple lose all your "Oh ****" buttons, no more swiftmend or natures swiftness as well as inherently weaker heals.
(P.S. If you plan on doing it don't take Nurturing Instinct, the thought makes me /cringe)
Keep in mind that at 70 (after you've unlocked your dailies) you can make enough gold in 30-45 minutes to cover a respec. Many people are stuck in pre-BC mentality that a respec means a fundamental change in the way you plan to play your toon for some time due to the expense involved.
It will be difficult to get pugs as a feral in a healsuit. If you run w/ friends, it will definitely be a test for you to heal a level appropriate dungeon effectively.
It will be difficult to get pugs as a feral in a healsuit. If you run w/ friends, it will definitely be a test for you to heal a level appropriate dungeon effectively.
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The fact that you can respec at will has no bearing whatsoever on the original poster's question. He asked how long a Feral druid could main heal. Not whether or not he could respec for every instance run depending on the group makeup...
If you've maintained a healing set of gear, you should have little issue healing a good majority of non-heroic instances. Because I've healed an instance a grand total of three times, I'm not used to healing, nor how to effectively use my abilities when healing.
Best bet is to heal instances that you are overgeared for. I am feral and with my healing gear I'm sitting at close to 600 bonus healing with half my gear being balance gear and without any glyphs or spellthread. The only outland instance I've healed was Slave Pens and that was at 70.
Best bet is to heal instances that you are overgeared for. I am feral and with my healing gear I'm sitting at close to 600 bonus healing with half my gear being balance gear and without any glyphs or spellthread. The only outland instance I've healed was Slave Pens and that was at 70.
I have heard of ferals healing heroic ShadowLabs with 6-800 +heal. Not sure what the rest of the partys gear was like though. In a PUG i'd say heroics are a no no, but with guildies, with some decent gear, most heroics are probably doable.
The 10g for respeccing isn't an issue, it's getting back and forth from Azeroth that would be the pain in the posterior. I'd do it if I wanted to spend a weekend, say as a resto, but I wouldn't do it for individual runs. Just too much hassle.
So far I haven't run into much trouble while healing (I'm 52 and have healed up through Mara so far) other than keeping ItemRack up to date with any new gear I pick up/have crafted. Same goes with tanking as well, so needless to say, I'm very happy!
So far I haven't run into much trouble while healing (I'm 52 and have healed up through Mara so far) other than keeping ItemRack up to date with any new gear I pick up/have crafted. Same goes with tanking as well, so needless to say, I'm very happy!
actodd wrote:
The 10g for respeccing isn't an issue, it's getting back and forth from Azeroth that would be the pain in the posterior. I'd do it if I wanted to spend a weekend, say as a resto, but I wouldn't do it for individual runs. Just too much hassle.
1) Teleport:Moonglade
2) Run 50 feet and respec
3) Have party summon you to meeting stone (or just hearth to Shat)
I have 69 lvl and hybrid spec, 24 talent points in healing (have to rework it soon). I healed lots of dungeons, when there was tank in the party. With my almost +700 healing, I found that bigger problem are the pug players, than my spec and +healing. I.e. 70 lvl tank that has 8k health pool, 68 lvl mage who pulls aggro and is 3-shotted until I cast heal. The guys yell: heal, heal, but how can I heal when mind controlled by mob or constantly interrupted with small bugs under my feet?
As previously ppl spoke, you have to keep healing set up to date and invest some points into resto tree imo.
As previously ppl spoke, you have to keep healing set up to date and invest some points into resto tree imo.
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