What would you do ?Follow

I'm now lvl 69 Arms/Furry MS warrior. I have solo'ed most of my lvl's with no help from my guild. So now that i'm about to hit 70 now the guild wants to talk to me. Last night they tell me when I hit 70 that I will have to spec protection. If I want to run Kara with them. They have 5 prot. warriors that have tank gear. My tank stuff is not close to lvl needed to tank in Kara or even Heroics. I thinking of join an arena team and just pvp for gear once i hit 70. What do you guys think I should do?

What do you want to do, Raid or PvP? It's that simple. Unless you wanna do both, then you can do that too. Just take your pick. The thing about Kara is that if you tank, you get geared quick, and you might have a shot at picking up DPS gear along the way too. Just some food for thought.

QFT. If a guild told me how to spec and play, I'd probably respond with a /gquit. If they value you and respect you as a player, they'd ask if you would like to spec that way and be comfortable with your choice. I agree with the folks above - do what you enjoy. That being said, if you go the DPS route don't expect them to take you into Kara over a DPS class that offers more versatility. So long as your goals and the guild's expectations are in line, you should feel free to spec however you like.

Cheers,
Jorge

I don't mind goin prot but it's just that their are 5 prot warriors active in guild. I will be #6 so that puts me pretty far down the list. The forth and fifth are in need gear badly and 2&3 are still in need of some upgrades. They are not tryin to gear up 4 & 5 so I don't think they will be gearin me anytime soon. The guy who was #6 gave up his warrior and rolled a preist. With all that being said I don't think I will respec at this time so it will be pvp for awhile. thanks for the feedback

Like I said I don't mond goin prot but when I see the 4th and 5th warrior sittin on the sideline because they want to push through Kara. From what I understand is Kara is a 10 man raid but I could be wrong. I'm new to the game so that why I came for advise(only been playin for about 5 months). I do understand what some of you are sayin but I just don't see the betterment of the guild by goin prot. I have always like doin instance and would like to do raids.

I don't think anyone is really arguing about whether or not a respec would better serve the guild. And I'm certainly not going to say that a guild has no right to ask him to respec to fill a needed role within a raid.

My point is that the guild virtually (no pun intended) ignored him until he hit 69. Once he started closing in on 70 he was then told to be a team player and respec so they could use him for raids. Why the hell would you want to be a team player for a guild which ignores you until you become useful?

Join another guild that needs a prot warrior and respec for them.



Well spoken

Edited, Dec 17th 2007 4:27pm by Paladense

Not really.
Season 3 Arena gear is of T6 quality which means it is much much better then anything you can find in Kara or heroics. And I mean much better.
Yes it is biased a bit towards 2 H DPS but still great for any DPS warrior.
Honor set for s 3 is not that great as Arena but still very solid.

Weapons? Arena weapons are just amazing.
You really need to be in end game guild to find better weapons.

So although it is hard to accept for people who hate PvP - PvP gear is more then sufficient to use in Kara as PvE DPS gear.
I may even risk opinion that warrior with full s3, s 3 weapon(s) and full honor sets (rings,neck,boots,bracers, belt, gems) and one of the many badge/crafted cloaks (like Vengance Wrap) will be very close to top DPS if he knows what he is doing.

Well, I can tell you how things run in my guild, and then you can make your decision.

We currently have 6 warriors, and 2 feral druids. Of the warriors, 4 are spec'd prot, 2 are spec'd fury. All of them are expected to be capable tanks, and those who are dps spec'd are required to respec prot when a raid depends on it, which is a rare occurrence.

Now who gets that spot? Simple, the people who put in the time, and have the interest in it, are the ones that get to choose their spot. Currently our 2 DPS warriors are the ones that have been in the guild the longest, and both have spent a significant amount of time tanking. You put in the effort, you get the reward.

What I think you should do is simple. Tell them you will respec prot when needed for the raid, and be DPS spec when not. If they have problems with that, then you know to get out. However, I don't think it's unreasonable for them to ask you to be the proper spec to fill a certain role in a raid.

As far as arena gear goes, for hunters (I know this is warriors but bear with me) you get about 5% more crit than you need, but about 60% of the AP/agility you should in S1 arena and S3 honor gear, and 90% the intellect. If warriors work the same (which I assume it would) then you're going to be basically DPSing in gear that's designed to survive much higher crit chances and burst damage than bosses have, and virtually do nothing else for you. Weapons are good, but usually not much else from PvP (unless you're tanking or healing - those dont lose much stats).

As to the OP's situation...there's 2 ways his guild could have handled him. The first way is to help him get gear and/or mounts (since this is his main he may need help) even if it's just a loan or a trade of run-throughs (i.e. we'll run you through ramps if you'll run us through lowb content so we can gear up our twinks). Once he hit the mid 60's they could have taken an interest in him and helped him with group quests or instances where he could get geared, while at the same time telling him "hey, pick up the tank drops because we need a tank, and we also need you to respec prot at 70 so we can take you to kara."
Or...
They could do what they did, completely ignore him until 69, and then say "respec prot or you're not coming."
In this case, I'd say "I'm not coming!" /gquit and find a guild that will respect you. I'm not saying a guild that would accept a DPS warrior, but a guild that will respectfully ask for him to switch to prot.

Now for my advice...
If you want to PvP, have fun and enjoy it. But realize you will be poorly geared for PvE, even tanking. If you want to hit end-game PvE content, I'd join a guild that will respect you, either by helping you gear up to tank (or gear up at all) or let you be a DPS warrior.