I'm 60 right now and debating whether or not to go through the quests for the epic dread steed mount. I'm mostly interested in leveling quickly to 70 so I'm considering buying the racial epic mount instead because it looks like it's about 100 times easier and not much more expensive. I don't have any Warlock friends that have already done the quest, and my guild is mostly lower level so it would be tough (but not impossible) to get a group together to help me out with the quests.
What do you think? Should I go for it, or just save the time and money and buy the racial epic mount?
Edited, Dec 17th 2007 11:53am by Velamir
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Nothing says warlock like a demon mount. I did the quest. The hardest part is in Dire Maul. The rest is just a lot of running around to various places and gathering up items and killing a few thing. You will at one point need to go to scholo, so if you haven't, do the quest line to get the key, or find somebody who can open the door.
Just my 2 coppers worth.
Just my 2 coppers worth.
Your not a warlock unless you have your Dreadsteed. They have nurfed the mats required for it many times over so there should be no excuse to not getting it.
Second. Warlocks without their epic lock mount are laughable, if they don't take the time to invest in their class, how can they be a good player?
And I'm not just being a sycophant*.
*word of the day calendar, yay :D
And I'm not just being a sycophant*.
*word of the day calendar, yay :D
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Is the Dread Steed worth it?
Short answer: Yes.
Long Answer: ... Very yes.
Much Longer Answer: If you're worried about time and money, it's certainly easier to just buy a typical fast land mount. However, there is nothing even CLOSE to the cool factor of the Dreadsteed. It's like comparing a souped-up Honda with a Lamborghini. Sure, they both go really fast, but which looks more awesome?
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Lol, ok. I guess I have my answer. Thanks for the input! I thought it was a debatable point, but apparently not so much. ;-)
If there are any dissenting opinions, I'd love to hear them.
If there are any dissenting opinions, I'd love to hear them.
I would go through that quest line for my shaman if I could. It's worth getting just for the event in DM West. That's one of the best instances I've run. I liked it so much I took 3 of my friends through to get theirs as well. The only thing that was bad about it was I hit 60 the day before the BC expac came out, so finding groups was hard
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Here's my two penneth.
An epic mount is one thing and one thing only - a faster way of getting from A to B than a standard mount. What it looks like doesn't matter a DAMN. If I could have got the same functionality more easily for my female, blood-elf warlock by having her ride a child's (epic) tricycle painted yellow and blue then she'd be riding the tricycle.
I got a Purple Skeletal Horse from the stables at Brill and he serves me very well. I have no regrets at all at not slugging my way Dreadstead quests.
Toak
An epic mount is one thing and one thing only - a faster way of getting from A to B than a standard mount. What it looks like doesn't matter a DAMN. If I could have got the same functionality more easily for my female, blood-elf warlock by having her ride a child's (epic) tricycle painted yellow and blue then she'd be riding the tricycle.
I got a Purple Skeletal Horse from the stables at Brill and he serves me very well. I have no regrets at all at not slugging my way Dreadstead quests.
Toak
I think its something every lock should have ...eventually.
Personally I just levelled as usual once I hit 60.
While I did,I gathered/made the mats requiered.
When I had done all the prequests,and got all the mats needed,I then made the run to get my horsey,together with another lock in my guild. (I was 70 at the time,he was 61)
So I didnt excactly rush to get it,but it was certainly worth it once I did :D
Personally I just levelled as usual once I hit 60.
While I did,I gathered/made the mats requiered.
When I had done all the prequests,and got all the mats needed,I then made the run to get my horsey,together with another lock in my guild. (I was 70 at the time,he was 61)
So I didnt excactly rush to get it,but it was certainly worth it once I did :D
The Dreadsteed is the most awesome mount in the game!
A few tips: First, you do do not need the key for Scholo. Once you're outside the instance with a couple of friends, just life tap all the way down, then use hellfire. You won't lose any durability when dying from hellfire. Run back to your corpse, then through the door while still in ghost-form. Once on the other side of the door, ress, and 'use' the torch to open the door for the group.
You can read up on Scholo in the zone section here, but keep in mind that only one person in the group can loot the key to the viewing room off Rattlegore. When I did the quest, we were 2 locks (68 - me - and 60) and a priest (70). The room with the locked door to the viewing room is filled with magic immune mobs, so we couldn't get through. We solved this by having the priest picking up the key and soulstoning him. Then we, the two locks, ran into the room with the immune mobs and engaged them while the priest opened the door and ran into the next room. He died, and waited in ghostform until we got back, jumped down to the room (the room with the magic-immune mobs are right after the entrance to Scholo, and you can jump down), ran into the viewing room and died there. Then he ressed and resurrected us. Or, that's how it should be :/. I happened to loot the key, so our actual attempt was quite a bit more confusing, and we ended the tour at 5% durability.
Dire Maul is not too bad. One problem here is that you need the key for it, which you get in DM east, I think.
As for having a friend with the summoning items, that's not necessary: I know that there's a list of warlocks with the items here on Alla, but it's nothing compared to this list: http://www.wowmb.net/forums/showthread.php?t=8413
Good luck getting it!
A few tips: First, you do do not need the key for Scholo. Once you're outside the instance with a couple of friends, just life tap all the way down, then use hellfire. You won't lose any durability when dying from hellfire. Run back to your corpse, then through the door while still in ghost-form. Once on the other side of the door, ress, and 'use' the torch to open the door for the group.
You can read up on Scholo in the zone section here, but keep in mind that only one person in the group can loot the key to the viewing room off Rattlegore. When I did the quest, we were 2 locks (68 - me - and 60) and a priest (70). The room with the locked door to the viewing room is filled with magic immune mobs, so we couldn't get through. We solved this by having the priest picking up the key and soulstoning him. Then we, the two locks, ran into the room with the immune mobs and engaged them while the priest opened the door and ran into the next room. He died, and waited in ghostform until we got back, jumped down to the room (the room with the magic-immune mobs are right after the entrance to Scholo, and you can jump down), ran into the viewing room and died there. Then he ressed and resurrected us. Or, that's how it should be :/. I happened to loot the key, so our actual attempt was quite a bit more confusing, and we ended the tour at 5% durability.
Dire Maul is not too bad. One problem here is that you need the key for it, which you get in DM east, I think.
As for having a friend with the summoning items, that's not necessary: I know that there's a list of warlocks with the items here on Alla, but it's nothing compared to this list: http://www.wowmb.net/forums/showthread.php?t=8413
Good luck getting it!
In my opinion, I think Blizzard should realize that we have the Burning Crusade now and it's really a pain to get people to do those old world instances. They should make us do Ramparts or something. Getting a group for Dire Maul can take days now, if you don't have a guild or your guildmates are just too lazy, or they're just too drunk.
I went to do the questline the very second I dinged.
It's worth it!
It's worth it!
Speed/Cost wise, nah not really worth it.
Fun Factor, yes. The event in DM is probably one of the most exciting things in the game.
Cool Factor, yes. I mean come on, what's a warlock on a Skeletal Horse, gimme the Dreadsteed or nothing at all.
Fun Factor, yes. The event in DM is probably one of the most exciting things in the game.
Cool Factor, yes. I mean come on, what's a warlock on a Skeletal Horse, gimme the Dreadsteed or nothing at all.
well i did the quest as soon as i hit lvl 60. I had some friends farm the stuff for me (lucky me) and hopefully you´ll have some guildmates as well you can get you the stuff required in a blink. Getting guildmate of mine on the team who already had the items you need to summon the horsey. I than added 3 more lvl 70 chars to the stew.
So in the end i spend 210g on epic riding+horse.
yes it was definitly worth it+ the xp you get from the questchain, which is not that much compared to what you get from questing in the outlands, but still it´ll help.
So in the end i spend 210g on epic riding+horse.
yes it was definitly worth it+ the xp you get from the questchain, which is not that much compared to what you get from questing in the outlands, but still it´ll help.
a cool looking mount that doesn't take up an inventory slot and (not sure if this is till true) costs less than half the cost of buying the riding skill + mount.
tbh it's worth it ^^
tbh it's worth it ^^
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I really appreciate all the replies! There's a really great community of players here on Allakhazam. Initially I was thinking along the lines of Toak who suggested that a faster mount is a faster mount. After all the posts recommending that I get it (peer pressure!) I started the quest line yesterday. Here's how's it went:
I was lucky to find almost all of the mats on the AH for not totally unreasonable prices. I think I spent around 30g for everything, except the black dragonscales which were nowhere to be found. I then went off to farm the blood needed for the quest. The drop rate on the owlkin was around 20-30%, so I probably killed around a hundred of them to finish that step. A guildie with skinning very nicely offered to help by heading to Burning Steppes with me so I could farm the black dragonscales. The Flamescale Wyrmkin and Dragonspawn were supposed to have about a 25% drop rate but I would say it was much closer to 10%. We cycled through the three camps of them twice before the third scale finally dropped. Might have just been unlucky or maybe we had bad info to start with ;-) Tipped him generously for his help - I literally couldn't have done it without him. Lesson: start searching the AH early for those items. All together with flying and AH and farming it took about 4 hours to get everything together. Not too bad.
The hard part was getting a group together for Scholo. I had asked around earlier to see if there was any interest (trying to judge how difficult it would be) and didn't get any takers. Asked on the day of to see if I could get anyone spontaneously to go, and got a single taker. Unfortunately, our guild is extremely new, and many of our members are in the 20-50 range. The few at or above 60 were unavailable, but very apologetic. I even offered a 50g donation to the guild for anyone who would help, but couldn't get any takers. LFG channel was no help at all. Pinged everyone in the area to see if they wanted a quick run with little success. After about 1.5 hours, a group escorting another warlock in took pity and let me run through the nearly empty instance to the lab where I completed the quest. Not quite the way I would have liked to do it, but at least it got done. With all the prelims out of the way, I can concentrate on getting a solid group of guildies together to run DM.
It probably won't be easy getting a group together for the final step, but one thing I did discover is that there is a certain joy in playing the game for the sake of experiencing the content. I have been so focused on leveling and trying to maximize my limited time that I haven't really appreciated the flavor of the game. Completing time consuming quests for limited XP just for the sake of a single reward that I could have basically purchased instead, has effectively made me stop and smell the roses. Kinda cool. I'm really looking forward to getting the Dreadsteed now, and will definitely wear it as a badge of warlock pride.
I was lucky to find almost all of the mats on the AH for not totally unreasonable prices. I think I spent around 30g for everything, except the black dragonscales which were nowhere to be found. I then went off to farm the blood needed for the quest. The drop rate on the owlkin was around 20-30%, so I probably killed around a hundred of them to finish that step. A guildie with skinning very nicely offered to help by heading to Burning Steppes with me so I could farm the black dragonscales. The Flamescale Wyrmkin and Dragonspawn were supposed to have about a 25% drop rate but I would say it was much closer to 10%. We cycled through the three camps of them twice before the third scale finally dropped. Might have just been unlucky or maybe we had bad info to start with ;-) Tipped him generously for his help - I literally couldn't have done it without him. Lesson: start searching the AH early for those items. All together with flying and AH and farming it took about 4 hours to get everything together. Not too bad.
The hard part was getting a group together for Scholo. I had asked around earlier to see if there was any interest (trying to judge how difficult it would be) and didn't get any takers. Asked on the day of to see if I could get anyone spontaneously to go, and got a single taker. Unfortunately, our guild is extremely new, and many of our members are in the 20-50 range. The few at or above 60 were unavailable, but very apologetic. I even offered a 50g donation to the guild for anyone who would help, but couldn't get any takers. LFG channel was no help at all. Pinged everyone in the area to see if they wanted a quick run with little success. After about 1.5 hours, a group escorting another warlock in took pity and let me run through the nearly empty instance to the lab where I completed the quest. Not quite the way I would have liked to do it, but at least it got done. With all the prelims out of the way, I can concentrate on getting a solid group of guildies together to run DM.
It probably won't be easy getting a group together for the final step, but one thing I did discover is that there is a certain joy in playing the game for the sake of experiencing the content. I have been so focused on leveling and trying to maximize my limited time that I haven't really appreciated the flavor of the game. Completing time consuming quests for limited XP just for the sake of a single reward that I could have basically purchased instead, has effectively made me stop and smell the roses. Kinda cool. I'm really looking forward to getting the Dreadsteed now, and will definitely wear it as a badge of warlock pride.
I completed the quest not to long ago. I was lucky enough that the guild ran me through both, HOWEVER, if I were to do it again...I am buying the mount for my next lock. You are dead out in Outlands with a slow land mount and I have seen some level 64 locks still unable to find a group to complete their steed quest.
Yes you have the cool "I am a Lock" see me roar attitude with the moun, but if you are in a rush to level and play in outlands, then buy the mount unless you aare in a supportive guild who can get you mounted by no later than 61.
Yes you have the cool "I am a Lock" see me roar attitude with the moun, but if you are in a rush to level and play in outlands, then buy the mount unless you aare in a supportive guild who can get you mounted by no later than 61.
All the responces that say it's necessary have to do with aesthetics.
In fact, it's most likely cheaper to just buy your epic mount. It is also better for WPVP/BG situations, as the more information about your class you give off immediately the worse (even if it's a split second more from being on a regular mount it can be used for your advantage at some point in time.)
I have my epic, but it ended up being around 600g and about 8 hours worth of work. Hardly a steal. Only real benefit is that it frees up 1 slot in your bag... but you have to have a bit of mana to cast it (not a problem for Lock I suppose.)
In fact, it's most likely cheaper to just buy your epic mount. It is also better for WPVP/BG situations, as the more information about your class you give off immediately the worse (even if it's a split second more from being on a regular mount it can be used for your advantage at some point in time.)
I have my epic, but it ended up being around 600g and about 8 hours worth of work. Hardly a steal. Only real benefit is that it frees up 1 slot in your bag... but you have to have a bit of mana to cast it (not a problem for Lock I suppose.)
Dreadsteed is cheaper than standard epic mount. At least as long as you farm for.. any of the mats.
150G for dust (necessary), 250G more for the final mats (that you don't even have to buy if you have a lock friend with them already). Everything else can be farmed, and isn't that expensive anyway.
What you shouldn't do, is what I did. I got every single quest and mat purchase out of the way, except the very last one. I never got the key to DM, and died a few times trying to get it alone. Eventually I gave up, got enough gold for a green skeletal warhorse.
I ended up finding another lock at 61 looking for people for DM, who already had the key but didn't have the items for the summoning. I saved him 250G, and wasted my own 600.
150G for dust (necessary), 250G more for the final mats (that you don't even have to buy if you have a lock friend with them already). Everything else can be farmed, and isn't that expensive anyway.
What you shouldn't do, is what I did. I got every single quest and mat purchase out of the way, except the very last one. I never got the key to DM, and died a few times trying to get it alone. Eventually I gave up, got enough gold for a green skeletal warhorse.
I ended up finding another lock at 61 looking for people for DM, who already had the key but didn't have the items for the summoning. I saved him 250G, and wasted my own 600.
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You are dead out in Outlands with a slow land mount
or you could just kill things that attack you instead of trying to run away.
I'm 65 and i dont have an epic mount, honestly i dont see any point in getting one. Yeah i'm alittle slower than most but if someone wants to fight me i aint gonna get on a horse and run away. And in BG's i rather not be charging on the front lines, theres a good reason spells have a 30 yard range (mostly and untalented).
I'll get it one day when i'm bored enough, bt not going out my way for somethign that doesnt make any difference to my play style
1. it is cheap
2. it looks cool
3. you are half a warlock without it
4. conclusion: get it
That being said, my gnome warlock is awefully deep into Engineering, runs an Engineering guild and loves it deeply. Therefore I have both my dreadsteed (obligatory) and my mechanical steed, simply because it looks better with my goggles. /smile
2. it looks cool
3. you are half a warlock without it
4. conclusion: get it
That being said, my gnome warlock is awefully deep into Engineering, runs an Engineering guild and loves it deeply. Therefore I have both my dreadsteed (obligatory) and my mechanical steed, simply because it looks better with my goggles. /smile
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You are dead out in Outlands with a slow land mount
or you could just kill things that attack you instead of trying to run away.
I'm 65 and i dont have an epic mount, honestly i dont see any point in getting one. Yeah i'm alittle slower than most but if someone wants to fight me i aint gonna get on a horse and run away. And in BG's i rather not be charging on the front lines, theres a good reason spells have a 30 yard range (mostly and untalented).
I'll get it one day when i'm bored enough, bt not going out my way for somethign that doesnt make any difference to my play style
wow- I hope you're kidding- you're missing out on the best part about lvl 60+ on purpose. It saves hours and hours and hours- and you're very wrong about BGs too. Mobility is huge in BGs- faster to the flag carrier, faster to the bases, everything. Why get a mount at all?
It's certainly worth the time. I just don't think I can find a group. Seems like most of my server is on end game stuff, and I just don't think I'll be able to find a group for scholo and DM. But I'll try.
you could do what i do and have to much gold on your hands so you spend it all on collecting mounts and getting stupid rep-groups to exalted ^^
As a couple people have mentioned above this quest is worth getting only because it's one of the best quests I've taken part in since I started playing this game.
The actual part where you are at the end of the quest in DM fighting all the incoming demons and such is awesome.
Plus - A horse with flames - come on now, of course it's worth it.
The actual part where you are at the end of the quest in DM fighting all the incoming demons and such is awesome.
Plus - A horse with flames - come on now, of course it's worth it.
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All the responces that say it's necessary have to do with aesthetics.
Not true. A lot of us also said for the fun of the quest. As it is an extremely fun event. If it weren't for the event, I probably would just buy a regular one, but that event is one of the most exciting things I've done in game. Other than one shotting BM despite being told we probably wouldn't.
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