My attempt to sum up the thread in 5 points:
1. Hitash's original point remains true: compared to other DPS classes, Warriors don't bring much.
2. DPSing in WOW is about combining as many fractional DPS increases as possible.
3. Battle Shout fractionally increases pet DPS.
4. In PVP Battle Shout fractionally (by a much smaller amount) increases melee DPS the hunter will inevitably do when Things Don't Go Perfectly (note: things rarely go perfectly) and he has to Wing Clip to get away (and therefore takes a swing or two at his target)
5. It's generally a bad idea to intentionally avoid a DPS increase, however tiny the increase, unless there's a reason (such as Buff Limit).
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Even in the lower level dungeons (Ramps and SP for example) my (62, almost 63) warrior manages to put out very good damage and I can easily out dps a dps class if they are being handled by incompetents.
Just because you can outdps people assuming you're a dps spec'd warrior, doesn't make the others incompetent at their own dps class. Especially dot classes like warlocks + shadow priests, if we're doing the traditional single target kill thing I put out low damage in dungeons. But bring me to a raid boss and I'll top damage meters almost every time unless its some gimmick encounter.
I really think dps charts are overkill and unnecessary in dungeons. I can do far more dps on my warlock when we don't sheep/sap targets, and generally paladins hold multi mob aggro the best. So if I actually cared about my dps in dungeons I'd run with pally tanks all the time, dotting 3 mobs at once while spamming seed of corruption. Nobody would touch me.
Do I care? Not really. I'll happily run with a warrior and seduce a target while a mage sheeps and a rogue saps. Could I do more dps if the warrior was tanking 2 mobs? Of course. Could I do even more if he was on 3 mobs? Sure. Could I put groups at risk to push even higher numbers, break CC with SoC and top damage meters everytime? Probably. But I don't. I do whats best for the group, and generally thats medium dps on a single target, or dots on 2 targets at most (assuming a MT on a mob and someone off-tanking a second, ie: dps warr).
I dont mind running with warriors at all, I find 1 CC is usually enough and 2 is a nice amount. That always leave room for at least 1 non-traditional dps class (warrior, enh shaman, ret paladin) and runs can easily go smooth with 2 or even 3 of these classes. Depends on the rest of the group too.
But people have to stop caring about dps meters in dungeons, as if they mean anything at all. On my mage I could AOE far more, pull 3 mobs off the tank then ice block and have them run at the healer every pull. If questioned on my tactics I could /lol and post dps meter (seen this far too often). But I dont. On my rogue I could break saps and blade furry every 2nd or 3rd pull, or build more combo points on some caster mob instead of the main dps target mob where I might only get a 4pt evis off with no SnD. My rupture never has time to do full ticks when we /assist on a single mob, but I dont care, its for the good of the average group to single target burn mobs quickly.
Mike, I think you slightly missed my point. I was just replying to the OP saying that warriors are just as good at dps as any other class.
My main is a warlock and I understand exactly what you are talking about. I'm demo specced with Felguard but if the group needs an imp buff or Succy seduce then I will gladly sacrifice my dps to help. I was not talking about damage meters as such. Hell, I finished first last night in Kara and I know it means nothing because: a) the dps spread was extremely minor, b)I got to AoE the mobs by Moroes c) Curator is an extremely warlock friendly fight (24k CoDs FTW).
In the lower level dungeons I tend to run mostly without CC or maybe 1 at most. 99% of the time dps is on a single target (burning 1 at a time is the most effective method usually) - even without spamming WW every CD I manage to do extremely good dps. All I am saying is that warriors CAN dps and my post(s) will hopefully help non-warriors reading these forums understand this.
My main is a warlock and I understand exactly what you are talking about. I'm demo specced with Felguard but if the group needs an imp buff or Succy seduce then I will gladly sacrifice my dps to help. I was not talking about damage meters as such. Hell, I finished first last night in Kara and I know it means nothing because: a) the dps spread was extremely minor, b)I got to AoE the mobs by Moroes c) Curator is an extremely warlock friendly fight (24k CoDs FTW).
In the lower level dungeons I tend to run mostly without CC or maybe 1 at most. 99% of the time dps is on a single target (burning 1 at a time is the most effective method usually) - even without spamming WW every CD I manage to do extremely good dps. All I am saying is that warriors CAN dps and my post(s) will hopefully help non-warriors reading these forums understand this.
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My attempt to sum up the thread in 5 points:
1. Hitash's original point remains true: compared to other DPS classes, Warriors don't bring much.
2. DPSing in WOW is about combining as many fractional DPS increases as possible.
1. Hitash's original point remains true: compared to other DPS classes, Warriors don't bring much.
2. DPSing in WOW is about combining as many fractional DPS increases as possible.
Are you sure you have read the thread you are summing up? :P
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