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#1 Dec 17 2007 at 12:20 AM Rating: Decent
This has probably been covered somewhere so im sorry to bring it up again, but since I couldn't find this answered here it goes. For twinking a 19 warrior, would it be better to sacrifice the 100 armor or so and go for the defias leather chest piece or stick with a green mail one. Of course the chest will get 100hp either way. Thanks
#3 Dec 17 2007 at 8:39 AM Rating: Good
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the stamina given by the defies piece far outweighs the armour given by any green mail piece. With 100 health to it, blackened defians armour is the best rouge, hunter and warrior chest piece. If you want to see the best warrior gear for 19, look up my twinks armoury, maleek on frostmane. the only thing i am missign is a few enchants and the fishign hat.
#4 Dec 17 2007 at 8:53 AM Rating: Good
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Isnt it hard to twink these days? I though Blizz put on a level requirement on enchants like Crusader up to 35 ish.
#5 Dec 17 2007 at 9:09 PM Rating: Decent
yes, but there are still other "good" enchants for low lvl twinks out there. I myself have never made a twink cuz i'm poor lol.
#6 Dec 17 2007 at 11:21 PM Rating: Decent
People who can't play classes at lvl 70 twink out toons. /clap
#7 Dec 18 2007 at 5:38 AM Rating: Decent
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I tend to disagree with you, PigeonMan. Back in the old days you were right; by old days I mean when twinks were rare and could wipe 5 players solo within half a minute without dying.

These days at least half of the players each BG is a twink or at least close. While I have none myself (only 3 29ers with almost all greens and a crapload of PVP experience) I always love those BGs. You do not have many abilities yet, so you have to play those few you DO have to their maximum to defeat a twink. It never gets bored.

Might be the biggest reason for twinking:
- boring level 70 daily quests or running the same instance over and over and over till ... nothing drops again or rep grinding... duh.

Nothing is as much fun as 2 full 29 teams having a go at it in warsong gulch or AB. Tactics become more important than ever because you just can't withstand the onslaught of 2 twinked rogues.

Major fun!
#8 Dec 18 2007 at 7:14 AM Rating: Default
Please look back at previous post, and then think about what the hell you just said.

These days people can't handle all the abilities of any said class so they create one with limited abilities. If all you're doing at lvl 70 is doing dailies, you should probably try to get into a raiding guild and see more end game content..just a thought. But twinks are def not skilled. Sure they get bored, but if I twinked out a lvl 19 or 29 rogue, I'd own face too..

"I love killing the guy who has only been playing for 2 weeks, makes me feel like a man and that I'M AWESOME!"

lame.
#9 Dec 18 2007 at 7:20 AM Rating: Decent
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to the above poster wonderign about enchants, only the post bc enchants from outlands are level 35 and over, crusader, lifesteal and +15 agility are still availible to the 19 and 29 brackets. I personally have crusader on my axe and lifesteal on my mace, alogn with fiery on a 2h and a cruel barb.
#10 Dec 18 2007 at 9:30 AM Rating: Good
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People who can't play classes at lvl 70 twink out toons

How's the view from up there on your completely unfounded moral highground?

PVP is all about "twinking" your character. It doesn't matter if you spend a ridiculous amount of money on a level 19 char or spend 23 hours a day in arenas it's all about getting gear rewards for progression. Surely newbies getting their asses handed to them at 19 will just become prepared for life at 70 when they feel the wrath of arena geared players.

Going into any BG at any level is an exercise in getting to know the spirit healer if you don't have the gear to back it up. At least if you're a level 19 you can keep on leveling to find a bracket that you can afford the time to gear up for. Sure, they could make a "BG kit" so everyone was equally matched but alternatively people could stop whining about it and get on with the game. For the next time you smash the face of some fresh level 70 remember to utter your mantra:
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I love killing the guy who has only been playing for 2 weeks, makes me feel like a man and that I'M AWESOME!"

Jackass...
#11 Dec 18 2007 at 10:01 AM Rating: Default
Pigeon plese don't post uselss information : ).First from what it states below,you haven't tried to twink. So first try it out,post up your armory for that character and then make your comment.Don't try to state anything unless you got something to back it up. Every bracket requires skill : ). Since you lack some stuff you have to use what you got to survive. example("some classes at level 19") even twinked out are not going to hit hard.But are awesome cc or awesome support classes for that current level.So hmmmm a lvl 70 mage that has ice block,crit fireballs,have a few instant casts that can literally drop an opponent versus a 19 mage with frost nova,no blink,there fire damage or ice damage that is still currently low but was able to bring down there opponent or help the flag carrier get the flag across the stretch. That is just one example...I could go on for each class. I curently have 2 twinks and also a level 70. I pvp with them all. ALL are challenging in there own regard. I can easily back up what I posted.Please post something to back up your argument.
#12 Dec 18 2007 at 11:23 AM Rating: Default
gotta agree with the twinks on this one. as i was lvling up i always wanted a twink cuz it seemd cool to me for some reason. once i hit 70 and got enough $$, i knew i wanted to make one. i was in a raiding guild, but there is still a lot of downtime from raiding and instances and boring dailies. so i made my twink and love it. it took some time and deff some money but so fun in the end. i think its really interesting going from a 70 instance then back to a lvl 10-19 wsg. nice change of pace, and really fun owning ally. just one question since were on the topic.
if im using shadowfang with a shield, shood i go crusader or lifestealing? and why?
thanks
#13 Dec 18 2007 at 1:53 PM Rating: Default
Now in this is your flavor of choice. Since we are refering to a warrior and it's a 19 twink I say stick with the 4 following enchants for weps for melee wise is the following. (+15agil,lifesteal,fiery or even the plus damage to wep.)Now crusader is not bad at all. However, the proc rate is not worth it imo. Plus I am not entirely sure if this is true or not now. But by past threads from what I've been reading, they put a lvl req on crusader but I'm not sure if this is true or not.When I get off work, I'll check my enchanter to see if it is true or not or if someone else could verify that.
#14 Dec 18 2007 at 2:19 PM Rating: Default
I didn't twink my Druid to pwn nubs. I twinked my druid so I could actually compete. Maybe you haven't seen lower level battlegrounds recently, but there are just as many twinks as non-twinks if not more. I don't see the difference in twinking at 49 and twinking at 70. I mean, a full S3 geared player with high end enchants vs a fresh 70 is a much bigger hurdle than a twinked 39 and a non-twinked 39 (now those underlevelled players, that's another story).

I know it can be frustrating to get killed by twinks. That's why I made one. To be able to kill them back. It's not that I don't like 70 pvp, my warrior does tons of it. It's just that sometimes it is more fun to kick back with a group of players that all have max gear for their level that is much easier to obtain. I spent about 10 hours twinking my druid at 49. I spend more time than that getting a single upgrade at 70.
#15 Dec 18 2007 at 2:54 PM Rating: Default
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there is no level req on crusader, i have it on my lvl 19 twink, the req is on savagery and mongoose. and to the person who said crusader doesnt proc as much as they would like, i thought that in the beggining, but after playign a few more bg's i found that was not the case at all. I have crusader proc for me at least once ever two fights, sometimes twice i na single fight, i love it an think it was worth every penny i spent, but thats just my 2 cents.

anyway, heres my armory, i think i have my skeletal club and redbeard crest equipped currently.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Frostmane&n=Maleek
#16 Dec 18 2007 at 3:39 PM Rating: Decent
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nono. twinking is usually for people who can't play lvl 70. If you have a reason to twink other than this, your probably over rationalizing it, "making excuses".

Pvp pre 70, is to make leveling easier. The gear pre-60, really isn't amazing for pvp, but it's good enough or better than most things you can get from instancing or the AH...

Why stay at level 39 as a warrior? when in one level you can get plate and a mount... Why stay at lvl 29 as a warrior, when you can get to lvl 39 in less than a week with minimal playing.

Twinking was something in the past that you did to 'waste time', or 'waste money'.

Now, not everyone is twinked, but since money is less of an issue when you already have a level 70 character, your alts suddenly got better gear because of it, you can now afford the lvl x9 greens/blues that are on the AH...
#17 Dec 18 2007 at 4:23 PM Rating: Decent
devioususer wrote:
nono. twinking is usually for people who can't play lvl 70. If you have a reason to twink other than this, your probably over rationalizing it, "making excuses".

Pvp pre 70, is to make leveling easier. The gear pre-60, really isn't amazing for pvp, but it's good enough or better than most things you can get from instancing or the AH...

Why stay at level 39 as a warrior? when in one level you can get plate and a mount... Why stay at lvl 29 as a warrior, when you can get to lvl 39 in less than a week with minimal playing.

Twinking was something in the past that you did to 'waste time', or 'waste money'.

Now, not everyone is twinked, but since money is less of an issue when you already have a level 70 character, your alts suddenly got better gear because of it, you can now afford the lvl x9 greens/blues that are on the AH...





"sneezes"..achooo I'm sorry I am allergic to bullcrap : ). I would expected more from you devioususer considering you have a stickie up top.I guess you're not as intelligent as I thought you were making such a dumba$$ comment like that.Many examples of many people having quite a few 70's including me having a warlock full arena set on,a shaman almost fully equipped as well. But I also do the other levels as well for enjoyment.I have 19 twinks which will remain there and will not take them any further.Does not have anything to do with not being able to play a level 70........dumba$$. I should actually say the 2 retards that posted saying twinking is for someone who can't play a 70, is that those people are jealous and are unable to make a twink survive in those level brackets.Anyways the earlier posts have stated quite a few reasons enough said there. Anyone who is twinking don't pay any attention to these retards.

Edited, Dec 18th 2007 7:38pm by Jiggeyferg
#18 Dec 18 2007 at 4:37 PM Rating: Decent
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i have a twink because i wanted to, simple as that, it seemed fun, and i had the extra gold. also, my main is not lvl 70, its 48, and i geared my twink while my main was at lvls 28-34.
#19 Dec 18 2007 at 7:51 PM Rating: Decent
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"sneezes"..achooo I'm sorry I am allergic to bullcrap : ). I would expected more from you devioususer considering you have a stickie up top.I guess you're not as intelligent as I thought you were making such a dumba$$ comment like that.Many examples of many people having quite a few 70's including me having a warlock full arena set on,a shaman almost fully equipped as well. But I also do the other levels as well for enjoyment.I have 19 twinks which will remain there and will not take them any further.Does not have anything to do with not being able to play a level 70........dumba$$. I should actually say the 2 retards that posted saying twinking is for someone who can't play a 70, is that those people are jealous and are unable to make a twink survive in those level brackets.Anyways the earlier posts have stated quite a few reasons enough said there. Anyone who is twinking don't pay any attention to these retards.


I love trolls. 14 posts... lots of 'positive' input.

I didn't say that it was ALWAYS, it is USUALLY something a lvl 70 player does. The game is designed around end game, PVE and PVP. It was haphazardly put together post 60 to 'balance' play. Characters pre 60 or 70, are horribly mismatched for balance.

I have a twink, from pre-bc, it's not hard. Just use thottbot or this website to search for 'things'. Have a little imagination. Har har.

What part of my post was terribly inaccurate? Or out right BS, as you put it? You'll notice if you actually read it, that I stated several non-biased opinions about twinking.

I will leave you now with a quote from wikipedia...

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An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who intentionally posts controversial messages in an on-line community such as an on-line discussion forum with the intention of baiting other users into an argumentative response. "Troll" is also used in a broader pejorative sense to question the good faith of any Internet user who has annoyed the person using the term.
#20 Dec 19 2007 at 12:38 AM Rating: Default
Twinking a lower level character is also for those people who want to be able to indulge in competitive PVP but are unable to make the time commitment needed to gear up at the level cap. Sure there are the elitist tools that don't understand the game and like having less buttons to mash, but there are people who bought high ranked arena teams and are just the same.

I have a twink from back in the day (that I haven't played since TBC), that I made for several reasons:

  • All my DKP was spent on tanking gear.
  • 100g in respecs from Prot -> Arms (and back) didn't seem worthwhile.
  • I didn't want to spend what little time I had outside raiding and farming consumables, getting beaten by a team of people all grinding out a Marshall ranking.


  • At least pre-TBC people in PVE gear could put up a decent fight in a BG, whereas now with the advent of resilience you just don't have a hope. PVE and PVP are now so separate that it's near impossible to dabble in your spare time. Why should people have to suffer the slurs from your overblown sense of self importance due to an inaccurate and fairly contrived stereotype? Yeah it's my own fault for reading a forum, and overestimating the computer game playing population. Don't worry I'm going to go and sit quietly in the corner and think about what I've done.

    Gotta love how a simple question turned into a combination of a catfight and a peeing contest. I have no problem admitting you get further up the wall than I do, but the problem is that once you get to a certain point you end up getting it all over your shoes...
    #21 Dec 19 2007 at 5:09 AM Rating: Decent
    does anyone have an opinion on what enchant wood be best for a warrior using a 1h/shield? crusader or lifestealing?
    #22 Dec 19 2007 at 5:10 AM Rating: Default
    **twink warrior at 19 to be specific
    #23 Dec 19 2007 at 6:14 AM Rating: Decent
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    ***Just an opinion below, backup up with arguments. If you cannot handle opinions, please skip this.***

    Nothing is more fun than a 10 twink vs 10 twink BG these days. And believe me, the % of twinks is almost always >50%, both sides.

    Twinking is no longer the uberness it used to be when you were the only one. You are not. You will get your a$$ handed to you several times per BG, even with the best gear at 29 (I do not play 19, simply because there are too few classes that justify twinking).

    The thing is the following (I will use myself as an example). I have 2 level 70s and 2 level 61 and 63 respectively, all build up at a VERY slow pace since I do not have a lot of time to play (having twin kids is lovely!). When I play arena I usually play with my real life brother who happens to play a LOT and is geared in lovely purpleness. Most weeks I do not even reach my 10 arena games so my gear is lacking. Moreso my gear is lacking compared to raiders, simple reason: no time.

    Now the lower BGs is a different story. There is a "best gear" set for every class that you can obtain. Another twink will have exactly the same, so no gear differences. NO gear differences. At 29 all classes get _some_ tools, be it faster speed (druid), vanish (rogues), blink/FN (mages) and so on. But you lack a lot of the high end tools too.

    Yes you can say it is "easier" because you do not have to use all 40 abilities at once. True there. But meanwhile it is "harder" because you have to overcome your enemies with the little powers you have. It is called a challenge, where gear no longer plays a part. It is fair when twinks meet twinks. And these days, that is more often the case than not.

    Try it out and you will find that if you meet other twinks, they DO know how to play too and you too will get your a$$ handed to you several times.
    #24 Dec 19 2007 at 7:08 AM Rating: Default
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    to jsc, a would suggest on a 1 hand, skeletal club for the weapon, and lifestealign or crusader, both have served me well, with crusader on my night reaver and lifesteal on my club. You will not be dissapointed with either, if you have any more questions about your warrior twink feel free to send me a message and i will be glad to answer your questions. also, i have my twinks armory in my sig if you want to see what gear i have chosen.
    #25 Dec 19 2007 at 7:21 AM Rating: Decent
    I pretty much predicted he'll say the troll rant on me and also the fact that I signed up about 2 weeks or so ago.Even though I read the forums for quite sometime now.I will not say I'm sorry for simply calling you out on misleading information to the people reading these forums. The parts of your post I had the biggest problem with was this.

    you said-

    nono. twinking is usually for people who can't play lvl 70. If you have a reason to twink other than this, your probably over rationalizing it, "making excuses".

    Also you stated-

    Why stay at level 39 as a warrior? when in one level you can get plate and a mount... Why stay at lvl 29 as a warrior, when you can get to lvl 39 in less than a week with minimal playing.


    So basically anyone reading these forums who are looking for twinking ideas,info,etc... are lead to believe "oh since I am twinking a character means I can't cut it at 70" .So you are misleading people here.


    #26 Dec 19 2007 at 7:23 AM Rating: Default
    As for your question Jschach.Refer to horntails post.I agree with what he said.

    Edited, Dec 19th 2007 11:33am by Jiggeyferg
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