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#1 Dec 13 2007 at 11:09 PM Rating: Decent
Hi, I'm hoping some kind soul can put me right, my hunter is now level 54 BM spec but i don't think I'm making the most of it, could you please take a look and if possible give me a few pointers
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Terenas&n=Littlecody
My main funds her so to respec would not be a problem but want to stay with BM, thank you in advance
#2 Dec 14 2007 at 12:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ok, I'll bite.

To start, you want to go no further into BM than 41 points. By the time you hit 70 you will have 20 more points to allocate elsewhere, either into Marksman or Survival. I recommend first and foremost respeccing and dropping your BM to 41 and starting on one of the other specs.

Now for your gear. It's not "too bad" however some items stand out and need to be changed as soon as possible. Neck and shoulder items for one could be replaced by far better and more Hunter-oriented pieces. I noticed two of your pieces of STR on them which does virtually nothing for hunters. Also your weapon has +7 Weapon Damage which for a Hunter does not benefit you, as ideally you should never be within arms length swinging your weapon except to wing clip/lay a trap and get back to ranged. Also I noticed you have a mix of leather and mail and I would personally recommend switching entirely over to mail as the armor is far higher on it than leather.

Now, I am keeping in mind that you are only lv 54. That makes four more levels until you reach Outlands and as I recall from my own experience my gear was a bit lacking prior to 58 when I finally headed to Blasted Lands and went through the portal. So you don't necessarily need to feel any pressure to re-gear yourself immediately (if you do at all after reading what I've posted). You could easily wait until you get to Outlands, which in fact I would recommend.

Outlands gear is cheap and vastly better than pre-TBC gear from Azeroth. Quest rewards early on are incredible and will benefit you greatly. I re-geared myself almost entirely before lv 60 just by doing the first sets of quests I found in Hellfire Peninsula. The rest of my gear I bought off the AH for almost nothing at all.

Just in case you don't already know, a Hunter's key stats go in the following order of importance:

1. Agility
2. AP
3. Stamina
4. Critical strike rating
5. Intellect

Some hunters might have a few of those switched around, and that's ok as long as you remember to primarily first and foremost focus your gear on agility and Attack Power. Simple Outlands gear "...of the Bandit" will do wonders for you. The only problem with the purchasable of the Bandit gear I find is that you will end up with a lot more STA than you will AGI but that isn't always a bad thing. Every piece has AGI, STA and AP on it so how can you go wrong?

Anyway, that's my two cents, happy WoWing.
#3 Dec 14 2007 at 12:18 AM Rating: Decent
Thank you for biting , will resec today i thought i had gone too far , cheers again
#4 Dec 14 2007 at 12:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Why no more than 41 points in BM? I personally like the 43/13/5 build for PvP.
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#5 Dec 14 2007 at 1:13 AM Rating: Good
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There, isn't anything wrong with having more than 41 points in BM at that level.

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=cE0h0gxRVzAoM

That is personally what I would do at that level. You can switch Mortal Shots for FI if you group a bunch.

That misses a few important grouping talents and has a few that aren't great for grouping, but should be great for soloing and passable for instancing.
#6 Dec 14 2007 at 1:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Is Improved Aspect of the Hawk really worth it? Doesn't it interfere with shot rotations and all? I used it a bit while leveling and for some reason it always seemed to proc on the killing blow. Smiley: banghead
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#7 Dec 14 2007 at 2:02 AM Rating: Default
As a BM hunter with Imp AotH (cookie cutter raid build), I love the talent. Makes my SS/AS rotation work better, and improves my dps a lot. 5 point talent in the first tree for 6 % dps increase (IIRC) is definetly worth it.
#8 Dec 14 2007 at 5:10 AM Rating: Decent
Well how does it look now i also got some new gear and my main can make someting for the neck, thank you all for your replies and your help in this matter.
#9 Dec 14 2007 at 11:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Well yea, it's not "required" to stop at 41, that was just my recommendation really, my apologies for making it sound that way. I only said that because 41 was the minimum needed to reach the bottom of one talent tree and having as many points available as possible to put into another tree. For me it worked out at least since I put the other 20 into Survival for the trap improvement talents.
#10 Dec 14 2007 at 12:54 PM Rating: Good
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Tavarde wrote:
Also I noticed you have a mix of leather and mail and I would personally recommend switching entirely over to mail as the armor is far higher on it than leather.


I would quibble with this slightly. Sure, if you can get mail with good stats then grab it. If, however, you can get leather with better stats then get it. In my opinion, stats are more important than armor. I'm not saying get cloth, but then again, there won't be much cloth that's good for a hunter anyway. The difference in armor value of leather vs. mail is often small enough that it doesn't really have a big impact on your total armor anyway. Once you hit Outland, mail gets easier to find, but still go for stats over armor class.
#11 Dec 14 2007 at 3:04 PM Rating: Decent
Well since the respec and some new gear i have leveled and i seem to be hitting a lot harder then before, so thank you all very much, if you take a look at my char and think of anything then please do.
#12 Dec 14 2007 at 7:01 PM Rating: Decent
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I would recommend exchanging both your trinkets since neither of them benefits your damage.

This one is from the Quest: Job Opening: Guard Captain of Revantusk Village.
Very easy quest after patch 2.3. There are no longer any elites in that area. :)

Also, you could start on this quest. Wich eventually will lead you to this nice trinket.
No elite mobs in this questline either. A level 60 and a level 59 in the last part. Should be smooth sailing even in your level. :)

Edited, Dec 15th 2007 3:04am by Abusor
#13 Dec 15 2007 at 1:14 AM Rating: Decent
Thank you for that
#14 Jan 01 2008 at 6:23 AM Rating: Decent
Sorry im back, somethings not right she was kicking **** but now shes struggling, level 61s are taking her? please take a minute and point me in the right direction.Also i was silly enough to try to level 2 pets at the same time, any ideas on how to quicken this up?. thank you and a happy new year to all . Happy hunting.
#15 Jan 01 2008 at 8:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Right now, pets gain a percentage of the XP you gain by killing mobs. There's no way to make it faster, except by killing stuff faster.

In 2.3.2, they're doing something to make pets gain XP faster. Hopefully it's not just a higher percent. I want pets to gain XP from quests.
#16 Jan 01 2008 at 10:19 AM Rating: Decent
But whats wrong with her ?
#17 Jan 01 2008 at 1:22 PM Rating: Decent
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you said you were leveling 2 pets, are the pets level up, have you trained the pets?

saying whats wrong from just a "she isnt good anymore" isnt easy.
what is it your having a hard time with?

both gear and spec seems good enough, do seem to be kinda low on INT tho(ress sickness so dont know exact numbers). I dont remeber what i had at 60 but think i have always had about the same MP as HP

could be that running out of mana is a reason your struggling.
effeciency is most likely gonna help you more now during leveling times than imp.mark will
#18 Jan 01 2008 at 2:23 PM Rating: Decent
Thank you for looking , pets are 56 and 54 so a bit week, seem to get a touch to close and then good night?

Edited, Jan 1st 2008 5:25pm by codiepat
#19 Jan 01 2008 at 3:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Tavarde wrote:

Just in case you don't already know, a Hunter's key stats go in the following order of importance:

1. Agility
2. AP
3. Stamina
4. Critical strike rating
5. Intellect

Some hunters might have a few of those switched around, and that's ok as long as you remember to primarily first and foremost focus your gear on agility and Attack Power.


I'll bite on that. I'm one of the hunters that will switch that around a bit.

This order is good until you get level 70, and 300 tooltip DPS:

1. AP
2. Agility
3. Stamina/ Intellect (I find them equally important)
4. Critical Strike Rating
5. Mp/5 gear (X mana every 5 seconds).

Now with the Mp/5 Gear, I see hunters ALL THE TIME who wear resto shaman gear because of the mana regen. If the gear says Spell Crit and Spell Power, don't use it. I'm sorry if you already know that, but It's just sad to see how many hunters wear shaman gear because... Well, I don't know what goes through anyone's mind when they do that.
#20 Jan 01 2008 at 3:17 PM Rating: Decent
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oh dear, you're going to have to stick with one pet for outland. It's extremely important to have a high level pet for outlands. Making the jump from level 55-60 zones in Azeroth to Hellfire Pennisula is huge. When I was level 60, I had Endurance Training and Thick hide on my pet, and it still died a lot.
#21 Jan 01 2008 at 3:42 PM Rating: Decent
Thank you for your reply, will stick with one when in in the outlands and maybe use the other out of it , cheers
#22 Jan 01 2008 at 4:09 PM Rating: Good
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Catlike Reflexes is pretty win for helping to keep your pet alive. 9% less damage.
#23 Jan 01 2008 at 6:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Went with Animal Handler instead of Catlike Reflexes. Figured +hit was more important in PvP, but I'm not sure. Any suggestions?
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#24 Jan 02 2008 at 8:55 AM Rating: Good
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If you're pvping, then FI is pretty much useless. You really only need 4 points in frenzy. I use Monkey a lot in pvp, imp monkey might be worth it.

I never find time to use aimed shot, however arcane shot is awesome and reducing the CD is great for pvp.

I'd probably go with something like this for a pure pvp BM spec. focusing on arenas.
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#25 Jan 03 2008 at 7:49 AM Rating: Decent
Went into Wintersprings and got a Frostsaber cat level 59, back to kicking butt again, thank you all
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