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#1 Dec 13 2007 at 9:51 PM Rating: Good
So, I've been leveling a lock recently, and I'm wondering when I should begin focusing on gear that is +spell damage. Right now I'm about to hit 33, and I've dumped all my points into Affliction (and will continue to do so until I get the Fel Guard).

So then, when does it become viable to begin dumping on the +spell damage gear, and how much of a factor will it be once I acquire my Fel Guard? I do not intend on using this warlock for end-game purposes (as such, I've nicknamed him my farmlock), and I'm not exactly sure what it is I should do as I approach the middle-game.

Any help is appreciated.
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#2 Dec 14 2007 at 12:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Hi there.
Shadoweave set is what you are looking for.All pieces have plus shadow dmg and some stats.And it looks damn cool.

edit: you can wear some piece of set now,but head requires lv 42 or smth,not sure tho.


Edited, Dec 14th 2007 3:23am by shoarmakip

edit2: your +spell dmg increases your pets ATTACK POWER.your hp increases your pets hp also.

if i were you id go for shadoweave set,i had it for long long time,i think i had some pieces of it when i hit outlands still :D

Edited, Dec 14th 2007 3:26am by shoarmakip
#3 Dec 14 2007 at 4:20 AM Rating: Decent
I wish I could dump all my points into Aff and get Felguard.
#4 Dec 14 2007 at 5:41 AM Rating: Good
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there;s some nice pieces of gear that you can get as you level which give +damage, just collect what you can and it'll make leveling easier ^^
#5 Dec 14 2007 at 5:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Right now I'm about to hit 33, and I've dumped all my points into Affliction (and will continue to do so until I get the Fel Guard).


Good idea. Wait until 50 and get Felguard.

To the main question:

You shouldn't really start worrying about +Spell damage until ~50. +Spell damage gear around your level will only have +Spell damage with no stats on it.
Around level 50 is when gear will start having +Spell damage and stats.

But for right now, as you're leveling...

Stats > +Spell damage.

Hope that helps.



Edited, Dec 14th 2007 8:53am by UnkemptSuperman
#6 Dec 14 2007 at 6:05 AM Rating: Decent
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I started with +dmg at level 10 and went affliction. Faster killing, less hits taken and lots more healing from drain/spihon life.
You'll be lacking some HP but you kill faster. You'll be lacking some mana, but lifetap makes up for it when you can heal yourself a lot faster.
#7 Dec 14 2007 at 7:18 AM Rating: Default
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UnkemptSuperman wrote:

You shouldn't really start worrying about +Spell damage until ~50. +Spell damage gear around your level will only have +Spell damage with no stats on it.
Around level 50 is when gear will start having +Spell damage and stats.

But for right now, as you're leveling...

Stats > +Spell damage.

Hope that helps.


I disagree.
You can easily get +220 shadow dmg before you hit 40, and that's without enchanting.
I did on my main and I didn't pay much for the gear because I planned ahead and picked up cheap pieces on AH that I could use later on.

Yes, that means reducing your stats quite a bit, but if you know your a-hole from a hole in the ground you will be able to grind like crazy and utterly destroy all that you come across (within your lvl range of course). And it only gets better when you get dark pact and iHoT...

IMO
Stats=safety
shadow dmg=speed

I leveled with affliction until I could try out fel guard for a few levels and then specced back to affliction when I hit outland.
Now I'm raiding with the fel guard, going to specc destro but I still like affl best for grinding.
#8 Dec 14 2007 at 9:31 AM Rating: Default
Actually you need to focus ONLY on +dmg
secondary on stamina but +dmg is main thingy

Int is good but doesnt never a priority
Spirit is something you really DONT need!
Nothing more

Cheers

Edited, Dec 14th 2007 7:36pm by Chosenorc
#9 Dec 14 2007 at 9:45 AM Rating: Default
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Stats > +Spell damage.


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#10 Dec 14 2007 at 10:43 AM Rating: Good
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A good way to look at it is to do what i did. Take a look at your Shadow Damage spells, specifically your DoTs, and then compare your rank to the next rank. Notice the damage difference, notice your spell dmg is close to that difference, then recall how awesome it is when you get new ranks of spells. Its almost like having the next rank of your spells all the time.

Unless you are PvPing, no other stat is as important as spell dmg imo. mana isnt an issue for a lock.

at about 40 i made the transition from int/sta to shadoweave/spell dmng and its definitely a noticeable difference.
#11 Dec 14 2007 at 11:14 AM Rating: Decent
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You can easily get +220 shadow dmg before you hit 40, and that's without enchanting.


Riddle me as to how you got 220 damage before level 40? I don't see how thats even possible considering the gear at that level. The best spelldamage pieces for lowbies prolly come out of ZF which is 43ish. I met a 60 Frost Mage with only 218 from Outland Greens. In the HIGHLY unlikely event that you had that incredible amount of spelldamage without enchants, your +STA mustve been laughable. I have no doubt that +spelldamage is probably better than stats though. I STILL wouldnt sacrifice a superior amount of stats for the measly spelldamage gear at that level. Just my two copper.
#12 Dec 14 2007 at 10:42 PM Rating: Decent
Imo, focusing on +spell damage before 40 is a waste. It's just plain better for locks to focus on +stam, then +int. Extra spell damage is worthless if you don't have the stamina for survivability - pre-40, you'll definitely get a higher net gain if you go +stam over +spell dmg. After 40, I would collect +spell damage, but not at the expense of unreasonable +stam/+int loss (ie, -20stam for +25sh.dmg).
#13 Dec 14 2007 at 10:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Any help is appreciated.


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#14 Dec 14 2007 at 10:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Stats > +Spell damage.


Oh and I see where you are coming from.I apologize for not being precise with that statement.

Yes, that's not true for the higher levels. But at his level, he should be worried more about survivability while grinding than +spell damage. (Even though Blizzard blessed us with everlasting grinding, the +int can make it even better).

Edited, Dec 15th 2007 11:31am by UnkemptSuperman
#15 Dec 14 2007 at 11:48 PM Rating: Decent
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I disagree.
You can easily get +220 shadow dmg before you hit 40, and that's without enchanting.
I did on my main and I didn't pay much for the gear because I planned ahead and picked up cheap pieces on AH that I could use later on.


Just gonna point out that you get 204 +spell damage from the Tier 2 set. 220 +shadow damage from cheap greens at 40 is very impressive. Please share you secret :D

My advice up until 40-50 range is just stack stamina and intellect. Grab some decent quest items, check the AH a couple times for some Eagle gear, do some instances, just do things while passing by leveling. With the new patch, you should be flying through levels pretty quickly so there is little point stacking up crazy gear when you will be replacing it very soon. Around 40-50, there are some nice dungeons pieces which cover everything. Earlier dungeons actually have some nice caster gear now because of the new patch but I wouldn't go TOO far out of my way for them since you won't use them for long.

Edited, Dec 15th 2007 2:49am by Tugnus
#16 Dec 15 2007 at 3:23 AM Rating: Decent
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Tugnus wrote:

Just gonna point out that you get 204 +spell damage from the Tier 2 set. 220 +shadow damage from cheap greens at 40 is very impressive. Please share you secret :D


Gah, I wish I still had some screenshots from back then!
(Edit: I posted a leaderboard screenshot but that was from the wrong lvl)
I had some gear that should've been expensive that I managed to find really cheap on ah.

The only specific gear I can remember is robe of the magi (someone managed to post it *very* cheap on ah), umbral crystal, green lens of shadow wrath, Shadoweave pants, defiler's Cloth Girdle, hypnotic blade & black mageweave gloves ... and I always used arcane elixir since they're dirt cheap (forgot to mention that)... that's about 150-155 from seven slots (and pot).
Add about 20 from boots, 14 each from back and wrists, two rings with +9 spell dmg & jade pendant of blasting and you're there...
But perhaps it was about 200 I had at 39, you've made me less certain now and without the screenshots I cant say for sure.
I also stopped and played pvp a while every ten levels so I had some time to scan ah too.

At lvl 49 I had whatever crit gear that was availible and destro spec. Not nearly as devastating as an affliction spec with loads of shadow dmg but still fun.

Edited, Dec 15th 2007 12:33pm by pompa
#17 Dec 15 2007 at 3:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Tugnus wrote:
With the new patch, you should be flying through levels pretty quickly so there is little point stacking up crazy gear when you will be replacing it very soon.


This is a very good point. Getting that kind of gear now is a waste of time.
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