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#1 Dec 12 2007 at 9:37 PM Rating: Good
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When a class doesn’t feel it’s gaining anything when they spec deeper in a tree (to a 41 pt talent, for example), that is an issue. We tried to accomplish this for warriors with moving death wish to arms, by adding focused will to discipline, etc. The results can sometimes be mixed. There are definitely many more discipline priests now than a few patches ago, but not as many 41-pt talent arms warriors as there were before.


Who else wants to say "Duhhhhh"?

Edited, Dec 13th 2007 12:37am by RPZip
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#2 Dec 12 2007 at 10:13 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't get it. Moving deathwish to arms still doesnt make me want to spec endless rage. Arms 41 pt. talent is broken and needs fixing..
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#3 Dec 12 2007 at 10:52 PM Rating: Decent
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ive even herd people saying put enrage where imp Ms is to try and persuade people to spec that far, but surely replacing a crap talent with a good one but not one thats worth that many points isnt a solution either. Im just praying that in the expansion something is done to help us, but at least my worst nightmare of having our weapons on a 30 min CD never happened :D
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#4 Dec 12 2007 at 11:09 PM Rating: Good
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yeah >.<

blizzard doesnt understand. sometimes it boggles the mind.
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#5 Dec 13 2007 at 1:20 AM Rating: Decent
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I don't get it. Moving deathwish to arms still doesnt make me want to spec endless rage. Arms 41 pt. talent is broken and needs fixing..


What are you talking about man? It's a great talent that gives us back the exact same rage gen that we had pre-expansion, except now it costs us talent points!

/sarcasm off

Yeah. Blizz just seems retarded sometimes. They don't seem to realize that there's a reason that arms warriors who go 41 deep are ridiculed by other warriors. Endless rage is a %$#! talent. If it's that obvious that no warriors have it, and have never had it, they need to look at the problem and fix it.
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#6 Dec 13 2007 at 1:40 AM Rating: Decent
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/sigh sorry

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#7 Dec 13 2007 at 1:42 AM Rating: Decent
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triple post ftl

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#8 Dec 13 2007 at 1:56 AM Rating: Decent
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The request to move Enrage to Arms tree was always there. It is made by raid fury warriors who must take useless for them enrage to get "must have" flurry.

In fact I have heard some arena warriors did respec to 41 points in arms.
They say it helps a lot to get rage needed when you are not being hit by anyone.

I haven't tried it myself though. Most warriors still uses same builds as before patch 17/44 31/30 33/28 31/27/3 and so on. A few went deeper into protection tree to get defiance and last stand or even concusion blow for both PvP and tanking viablility.
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#9 Dec 13 2007 at 2:48 AM Rating: Decent
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Most of those 41 point arms arena warriors are also probably sub-1500, as well. Endless rage, and the majority of the lower tier arms talents are just NOT worth it. Going that deep into arms is wasting talent points that would be better spent elsewhere for a pure PvP build. Hell, those points would be better spent elsewhere for ANTYHING. The talents are just not worth it. Endless rage would be enough by itself for my to make fun of a warrior with it, but the fact that they also will end up going into Imp. MS for it as well gives even more fuel to the fire.
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#10 Dec 13 2007 at 5:38 AM Rating: Good
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Most of those 41 point arms arena warriors are also probably sub-1500, as well. Endless rage, and the majority of the lower tier arms talents are just NOT worth it. Going that deep into arms is wasting talent points that would be better spent elsewhere for a pure PvP build. Hell, those points would be better spent elsewhere for ANTYHING. The talents are just not worth it. Endless rage would be enough by itself for my to make fun of a warrior with it, but the fact that they also will end up going into Imp. MS for it as well gives even more fuel to the fire.


Endless rage and the 41 point arms build also sucks hard when it comes to PvE as well.
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#11 Dec 13 2007 at 10:15 AM Rating: Decent
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That has to be the stupidest @#%^ing post from a blue that I have ever seen. Who the hell runs their developement team?

If they had moved death wish to be the 41 point talent some people might have specced 41 point arms but that would of just pissed us off even more to be perfectly honest.

Edited, Dec 13th 2007 2:01pm by Jimpadan
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#12 Dec 13 2007 at 3:53 PM Rating: Good
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id rather spec defiance in prot than ER in arms. defiance gives expertise now, which makes it >>>>> ER in both pvp AND pve.
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#13 Dec 14 2007 at 9:03 AM Rating: Decent
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Yha I wouldn't spec it for PvE but for PvP I've heard good things about 35/5/21 builds.
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