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Are you insane? I mean really, truly, batsh*t insane? MS is the debuff. The debuff is MS. The damage is nice but if they made MS just a random proc on our weapon we could use other attacks, albeit less easily.
The problem is not the Debuff, it's the damage.
To rephrase - it's fine for warrior to have an easy to aply, very hard to dispel 50% healing reduction debuff. This - on top of incredible mobility - is what they bring to the table. This is what they do. This is their gimmick.
There's honestly no need for it to crit for 3k however. That's overkill on top of the debuff.
Considering warrior fights with slow 2 handers, having a 'on proc' 10% damage reduction that stacked to 5 time would be an incredibly big nerf for you guys. I'm certainly not suggesting that.
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Besides which... Mortal Strike doesn't cause any more damage than Mutilate. Feel free to prove me wrong with math; I'll be waiting.
Who said anything about damage?
Mutilate is a 41 point talent.
It requires the target to be poisoned.
It requires you to be behind the target.
It requires you to spend 60 energy.
It gives you 2-3 combo points.
Mortal Strike is a 31 point talent.
It requires you to spend 30 rage.
It applies the equivalent of 5 'uncleansable' wound poison.
They do about the same damage. Except it's much harder to get a double Mut crit then a MS crit.
Quite frankly, I'm not sure which one edges out over the other from a damage perspective. For all I care, Mutilate might as well do better and it does give one a lot of combo points.
But considering the heavy requirement (poison, position and talents) Mutilate should be a monster of an ability, not something that's being questioned for viability every day by tons of people.
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And the reason it's the only viable PvP spec is _because_ of MS, so this is a completely self-fulfilling prophecy. Especially before Blizzard started smoking crack and moved the talent trees around, if Bloodthirst had the MS debuff there would have been more than one viable PvP tree for Warriors.
Why do you want more then 1 viable tree? That's the real question. We do, and quite frankly, it sucks!
The rogue's spec are so spread apart that we still have people trying out Mutilate and even Combat during this current 'Hemo Craze'. After 3 years, rogues are still looking for 'the' spec.
Yeah, I'd be fun for Fury to work in pvp... but ultimately, you guys have 1 spec that totally dominates. You're monsters in pvp because of it, I'd love to have the same situation... and for a little bit, we did.
I'd rather have 1 spec that's a 10/10 then 3 way to get 7/10. Yeah, it's better to have 3 specs that are 10/10, but you can't really complain when you at least got one.
Edited, Dec 12th 2007 7:49pm by Tyrandor