Warlock for LeotherasFollow

Our raid has now successfully downed Hydross and Lurker will soon go the same way, so we are beginning to have a look at what we could do to a warlock in order to be able to tank Leotheras.

I've thought of two builds, this one and this one.
The main difference is that the second one aims to get Nether protection while the first one goes for Demonic Tactics / Knowledge.

I suppose that the one with Nether Protection would be better, but wouldn't that render the lock useless for anything else other that tanking this boss?

Could you comment on these builds and/or suggest a better one?

A few tips on equipment would also be welcome... so far we were aiming for the 4 pieces of Infernoweave equipment and the Amulet of the Torn-heart with a few Flame Armor Kits to help it ...

Thanks all

go for the first one, this is how i tank him. except that i got the felguard.

I got all the +fireresitance gear from heroic badges, a nice cloth helmet with +sta and fireresistance + runic spellthread on panties for more stamina and added spelldmg. it is inmportatn to walk the fine line between loads of fireresistance stamina and spellhit

Spellhit for you is really important on this encounter cause this is the phase where most damage can be done, my TPS spikes at around 2,3kTPS and is usually around 1k-1,3kTPS.

Do not spam anything but searin pain. it has a crazy aggro-multiplier.

Remember to Mark your felhunter as well so he can be easily seen by healers.
Remember to stand away from the rest of the raid, but THEY should move away not you! Cast a Curse of Doom as soon as he pops out of his banish, cause exactly 2 minute later the will transform and your CoD will blow a few secs later giving you some nice aggro advantage.



Edited, Dec 11th 2007 8:26am by Oakenwrath

Here as always when playing a warlock in pve you should go for spellhit > spelldmg > crit
You will get many resists.
My spellhit is at 121 i think when in firegear.
Felpuppy buff stacks with palabuff.

Searing Pain spam all the way as i said it has a wicked aggro-multiplier.
As soon as i got 8k aggro on him ppl can start dps like crazy(trinkets and pots) there is no way they can out-aggro me. the 8k aggro is used as buffer for when Leotheras resists. and he will resist sometimes eben 3 times in a row.

Edited, Dec 11th 2007 10:53am by Oakenwrath

Well I haven't tried nether prot on him because I was told by another warlock that he switches target when nether prot procs.

Btw, does anyone know if nether protection works when tanking Grand Astromancer Capernian? Not that it procs, but that she stays on target.
(OT: my guild got our first Kael'thas kill tonight! Here's the video from one of our pallys, I'm the lock tanking capernian... when thaladred turned around and swung his axe on the tank next to me I thought I was a goner, and I would've been too if he hadn't dragged him off since I got the gaze right after that ^^)

last i knew, netherprotection no longer proc'd from leo's fire abilities, same with the fire abilities from one of kael's adds. but yeah, if it did proc from the abilities then it'd be a VERY bad talent to have.
/you gain nether protection
leothras starts casting X at a different player
load of raid takes alot of damage
/raid wipe

remember your +hit

nah just make em druids innervate =) lucky me we have never manaproblems in raid and have enough druids

i do well at threat generation, my TPS spikes at 2-3k and is usually around 1-1,3k. this is the phase where people can go totally crazy on dps.

well as i said our healer never have mana-issues.

Loki and to whoever tanks leotheras as lock. it is important that you are
soulstoned! You will occasionally die.

still, you really think 50 mp5 for the duration of innervate is really worth it? that's 200 mana over it's duration... tbh, a waste. 'tis like 1 extra spell.

i meant 50mpwhatever it ticks at on the screen (i always forget that it ticks like every 2-3seconds, but mana regen is always recorded as per 5seconds)

still, OOC, unbuffed I get about 50mptick, full raid buffed, OOC i get about 65 manaptick. seeing as innervate, while casting gives only 100% mana regen for 20seconds (doesn't matter if you're in fight or not. just simply if you're casting. yes if you don't cast for the full 20seconds + 4-5seconds before hand then you'll get the 400% bonus instead, but then you're generating no threat...), instead of 200mana yeah, it'll be like500 odd. so instead of 1 extra spell it's 2 extra spells. tbh. grats on a waste of a 3min cd. I'd prefer to use a rank.1 lifetap to gain that much mana on leo

Edited, Dec 13th 2007 10:31am by Jenovaomega

seeing as priests and druids barely break the 500mp5 whie not casting (and i'm talking well geared priests, not your average run of the mill ones), i 100% for certain KNOW you don't manage over 500mp5 WHILE casting, heck with innovate you may JUST manage that while NOT casting due to the 400% bonus, but otherwise, well... no.

POST EDIT

did they change the way innervate works? it no longer reads the 400% mana while not casting, 100% while casting. it now says "Increases the target's Spirit based mana regeneration by 400% and allows full mana regeneration while casting. Lasts 20 seconds.
Spirit based mana regeneration increased by 400%. Full mana regeneration while casting."

hmm... not quite sure how it works now, maybe it's 400% bonus even while casting now, in which cast then yeah, you can just about hit the 500 mp5 mark. /me heads to O forums to check

Edited, Dec 13th 2007 10:54am by Jenovaomega

yes they changed it, the way i understand it that it adds 400% to you manareg, even while casting so the 5 sec rule does not apply for the time it is up.