Why does everyone hate on druids?Follow

Your ignorance is showing. While tanking is 90% skill, if you want to get right down to the theorycraft of it druids have an advantage over warriors in terms of mitigation in 5 mans. Warriors advantage has always stemmed from being uncrushable, which is a function of level difference between the target and the tank. Against raid bosses, this is a 15%. There is nothing in 5 mans that is level 73 though, bosses are 72 and almost all your trash is 70-71. Druids have at most a 10% chance to be crushed, but most of the time it will be 0%-5%. When crusing blows are less of a factor, the greatest mitigation comes from armor and druids win that comparison easily.

As for feral dps, druids can easily keep up and often surpass rogues up to T5. I have a screenshot of a shade of aran fight in kara where I did 26% of total damage done, followed by 2 rogues doing 18% and 17%. Given that shade is a melee friendly fight with no threat limits, it's a good place to compare maximum dps. I could actaully probably do better now since 2.3 increased feral AP.

Balance druids scale well with gear and put out some great numbers too. Their biggest weakness is 5 mans, since you need the CC when you got a crappy tank. In raiding, CC doesn't matter so only dps counts and boomkins can keep up with with the mages and locks, the crit aura is just icing on the cake that means any raid would love to have 1 or 2 come with them on 25 mans.

Last night we did the ring quests in Nagrand. We did this with 2 hunters and 2 druids (with a 3rd druid joining us for the last round). Our tank was a moonkin and he did a great job. We won every event on the first try. The other 2 druids were resto.

Don't discount the druid just because he/she is balance. The worth of a class/build is not on the class/build itself but on the ability of the player.

i'll be the first to say i will pass on druids in a group if i can unless i know them to be a good druid. i'm sorry to say too many bad druids out there. i'll give you a few examples.

was tanking uldaman on my warrior had feral druid cat form while i was tanking4-6 mobs. we get to named switches to bear form desides i'm not big enough to tank it.

tanking brd on my prot pally. multi mob tanking just fine i'm lvl 54 cant rember lvl of druid but was acouple lvls lower than me. i've been tanking there since lvl 50. they are doing cat then deside to bear it up and start taunting mobs off me. i end up telling them to go to cat and they do. but then they deside they are gonna pull after i mark kill order with fairy fire( might not be right name). so they stop that and go back to bear and start growling off me again. needless to say over 500k damage pally with useing the shield with no shield spike and the druid beat the healer at least with little over 200k didnt think he was gonna break it.

now there are druids like a guy i group with who is balance our group normaly is 2 prot pallies bal druid mixed up warrior and some pick up guy. druid will dps and heal other pally dps backs up heal. and we do pretty good.

i know this aint all druids but thats just two of my many bad expierances with druids in groups. and heaven forbid a feral druid with more mana less hp in bear form and lower lvl than my prot pally heal instead of trying to make me heal. oh and did i mention didnt have regenrat for his rezz with him. sorry was a diff exparience there.

sorry for ranting and raveing just some peeps make me made and seems like it's 4/5ths the people i group with on my server are morons.

I feel like posting in this already beaten dead thread. Looks like a fun place to throw some sparks! (I recommend you skip this entire post as it's just full of stupid whim and basically says everything other people have alreaday said. Norly)

There have been times when I've seen Boomkin out-DpS a Mage. Doesn't matter. I've seen Hunters out-DpS Mages too, and Hunters are purely a utility CC class to me (trust me, you will never convince me that Hunters are a DpS class. Ever. Don't bother. Get your hunter-*** busy and kite a few things, off tank with your pet, and chain trap. If you start spamming shots.. then the group could be handling larger pulls is all you're telling me).

Ok so you've got an idea of how I think. Frikkin messy, and I don't mean lolzerguntilwewin like 60% of the pre-SSC raiders out there. Yeah any fool can spoonfeed undergeared players. Hell, it's what we do for our kids, and alot of kids play. Whatever.

On with the point: Balance Druids don't CC. I have not seen any of them consistently DpS well (yes aggro is often an issue with that, and further that even with the armor multiplier of moonkin form, the gear doesn't really shine as 'tank stats').. Enough digression. I think people play Boomkin cause they enjoy it. Right? Great for yous! The OP asked why people hate on 'em (this is where people like me antagonize the topic).

PvP: Spam spam spam spam run spam run spam run spam (resto and boomkin very similar in this way..)

PvE: spam spam spam aggro wait wait spam oom wait oom (think ya'll covered that one too)

CC: Root? What the frik are you thinking? an effect that can break on damage, and it deals damage. Who was the genius behind that one? CC my ***..
Cyclone? That might qualify as an interrupt, if interrupts can have casting times. Counterspell FTW! Stun FTW! Cyclone? wtf is that garbage?
Hibernate! yes! Now This is CC! and a damn good one too! WTB organized beasts in next dungeon.. Maybe those Barrens Raptors will conquer some continent? Druids will be THE CC class then! Maybe Arakkoa should count as beasts? ... idk



This made me lawlz. People NEVER agree with me when I tell them how easy PvP is.. I'm afraid to say this too loud, but you might actually be a really talented player.. and you could probably PWN with any class.. Most PvPers I know who go boomkin do so because they can't avoid / get out of melee and also can't keep up with it to do anything but spell damage (aka spamoonfire). I know where you're coming from though. My feral druid eats rogues and warriors for lunch, casters are tricky sometimes.. but all it takes is a couple crits on them. lol. PvP is a joke, but a fun one. Makes me laugh (since it's a joke?)

So what's left? Spell Crit? I like it. My fire mage likes it. Who doesn't like spell crit? So yeah Boomkins do help as support to that degree, but remember my original point? I am a messy thinker.

I expect any Hunter to be able to solo 3 level 70 elites in SH, or 7-8 level 70 non-elites at once if they're survi (maybe even elits too? Never tried that one).. But I've done it, so I expect it. Druid gonna CC 3-7 mobs? NOT! But.. Hunter's don't DpS real good. I mean yea, they do DpS, and it is pretty steady (take cover! incoming epeen defense mechanisms! "I r huntre n I cna doo DpS nub" or something to that effect is sure to follow some snippet quote of my text wall here). So since Hunters aren't DpS.. I get a Mage, so we can pull more controlled and kill faster. But what if you want big pulls and fast kills? Hunter / Mage + Warlock. mmm SS comes in handy, and does well with a shaman in group for DpS too.. and they do so much friggin damage I am amazed. every time. I mean, honestly, damn ya'll.. Warlock DpS. /nod. Oh and they can seduce and banish. that's several 1ups on Boomkin. So what about those Shaman? Best damn healers I've seen in smaller content. I LOVE chain heal. I'd much rather a DpS shammie over boomkin for why? Versatility! Remember my first post? That was the key.. Boomkin are not very versatile. THAT's why the hate.. and.. well most of them I know are ditzes anyway. I wonder if they're hotties irl? heh. *Dies from 12,000 angry Boomfires*