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Going on blizz, which horde race to take?Follow

#1 Dec 09 2007 at 5:14 AM Rating: Decent
My friends went on origi a few weeks ago, they play the horde and of course I wanna play with them. A priest.

Now I'm not really sure what to take, bloof elf, undead,..? I'm looking for racial abilities that become advantages in arena or BG. So I guess Blood Elf cos of Arcane torrent? Or what? :) If anyone can suggest me, I'd really be grateful.
#2 Dec 09 2007 at 5:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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Undead for Will of the Forsaken if you are only worried about the racials for pvp.
#3 Dec 09 2007 at 5:46 AM Rating: Decent
Tnx for the info. You mentioned only racials... Should I be worried about something else? :)

Edited, Dec 9th 2007 2:48pm by PRmeK
#4 Dec 09 2007 at 6:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Khalane is right. If you are strictly worried about racials in a PvP environment, Undead is the way to go.

PRmeK wrote:
You mentioned only racials... Should I be worried about something else? :)


Well, most people go for something they like the look of. Luckily for me, the Undead are my favorite race. So when I can, I choose them anyway. If, for instance, you like the Blood Elf look over the Undead look (totally polar opposites) then choose Blood Elf. Trust me, you will enjoy the game so much more if you are enjoying the character you are looking at.
#5 Dec 09 2007 at 5:21 PM Rating: Decent
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I quite like arcane torrent in BG's and for PVP, being able to disrupt a heal or big hitting spell can be the difference between victory and defeat in some 1V1 (or group) PVP environments.

Oh and of course Blood elf Females > all :P
#6 Dec 09 2007 at 6:40 PM Rating: Default
Arcane Torrent is insanely useful, however if you spec into Shadow at all you'll also be getting a much more useful Silence ability.

Arcane Torrent is an Point Blank AE, making it devastating when surrounded by enemy casters... as a Priest the ability to pinpoint a silence will be much more useful, since you really shouldn't be trying to get surrounded by enemy casters...

It's still a very good talent, but for Priest purposes the Undead's WotF is still quite a bit better. And in Shadow Form when grinding, Canny definatly doesn't hurt.
#7 Dec 10 2007 at 7:52 AM Rating: Default
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AFAIK Arcane torrent is neither point blanc or AoE =/
#8 Dec 10 2007 at 8:40 AM Rating: Decent
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Take what look you like best, that is the most important racial ability.

As far as the treats you get when choosing either, they both have their uses. For both there are moments that you wish you had chosen the other race and thus, it makes no difference again, just for looks.

I have chars of both races and like them equally.
Looks >>>> racials though.
#9 Dec 10 2007 at 9:47 AM Rating: Decent
Hehe, well I guess I'm gonna chose the undead race, extra shadow damage from Devouring plague sounds nice(r).

About the looks, I'm gonna have a male nick, therefor a male character, and with all do respect, Blood Elf males look a bit gay to me :)
#10 Dec 19 2007 at 9:25 AM Rating: Decent
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zelrin wrote:
AFAIK Arcane torrent is neither point blanc or AoE =/


Umm.....actually, it is indeed both.

Both WotF and the plague are great racials to have as a priest. Because of this, there are tons of undead priests. With the looks, there are tons of BE priests. I say, be different and go troll.
#11 Dec 19 2007 at 11:57 AM Rating: Decent
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trolls are nice... the shadowguard is nice in pvp because each ball(of teh 3) can (and will) proc Shadoweawing and sometimes Blackout. but i belive it's only against melee (not sure). and Hex of weakness is a semi-Mortal strike :)) but in my book WOTF+canni+Plague = win
#12 Dec 19 2007 at 12:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Zelrin wrote:
AFAIK Arcane torrent is neither point blanc or AoE =/



Umm.....actually, it is indeed both.


My bad, I had it confused with mana tap >.<
It is indeed AoE, though it has what, 8 yards on it?
#13 Dec 19 2007 at 1:00 PM Rating: Decent
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zelrin wrote:
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Zelrin wrote:
AFAIK Arcane torrent is neither point blanc or AoE =/



Umm.....actually, it is indeed both.


My bad, I had it confused with mana tap >.<
It is indeed AoE, though it has what, 8 yards on it?


Yep. 8 yards. So you pretty much have to be standing right next to whomever you are trying to silence.
#14 Dec 19 2007 at 1:15 PM Rating: Good
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I plan to start leveling a priest over the holidays, and I'm unsure which race to take. I've narrowed the choice down to Blood Elf (looks) and Undead (pvp utility). I know that WoTF > Arcane Torrent in most scenarios, but I believe the power level of these two spells to be reasonably comparable - enough so that I would still choose looks over a racial. My question, though, is whether or not Devouring Plague is powerful enough to warrant choosing undead. Is dps increased significantly by this spell?

Edited, Dec 19th 2007 3:17pm by IllusiaStratus
#15 Dec 19 2007 at 3:31 PM Rating: Decent
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erm.. not really... it is a mana *****.. it sues a ton of mana.. and it's on a 3 min cd.. but u get 100% of the dmg it does as heals.. add VE there and u get hp from VE and Plague. after u get the nice lil talent called inner focus u can macro to use it right before plague an save u a big chunk of mana. and in pvp that spell is win since it's instant too.
#16 Mar 23 2008 at 11:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Bump from a couple pages back, since I have the same question. For a priest that does both pve and pvp regularly, is devouring plague worth it? I've never played undead to high level, so I can live without WotF.

I did roll a low level blood elf priest, and the consume magic has saved my group's life more than once. But I expect its like mana tap, and scales horribly at higher levels. Thoughts?
#17 Mar 23 2008 at 10:33 PM Rating: Decent
Way too many blood elves. And way too many shadow priests. I picked an undead holy priest. In my 41 levels I still have yet to find another undead holy priest. Or even a true holy priest for that matter.
#18 Mar 24 2008 at 4:17 AM Rating: Decent
Undead has the most OP racials in the game when it comes to PvP. WoTF is amazing, and then if you finish a battle, hurt, you can cannibalize the enemy player's body for a free chunk of health without spending 1 point of mana.
#19 Mar 24 2008 at 7:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, liking the look of your character has its goods and its bads.

If you go Undead, everything is tattered anyway, so gear appearance seems less important (And more appropriate if it IS ragged). However, I have a BE, and I have been known to pay way more for an extremely minor upgrade because the piece looks better (and I mean a few additional Sta/Int/Whatever, scaling with levels).

I have also passed up clearly superior pieces because they look terrible.

But, it also drives me to aim for a higher goal sometimes. While X piece of gear is easy to obtain, I may put in a lot of work for Y because it looks better.

I like to play a character that looks good. Sometimes you just have to accept that that is impossible (like leveling in OLs when that drop is the Uber Pink Bikini of Death to your Foes).

[EDIT]

Just to add, all 3 Warlock Races for the Horde do have good racials. The Forsaken have two very strong ones (although one is more specialized) the other classes are great too.

When fighting an enemy that likes their range, Mana Tap is always useful if the fight is long, or your opponenet is a Druid/Shammy/Pally that can go oom easy as is. And, in a BG, you often find yourself running through a crowd or next to an enemy in a tunnel. The AoE Silence effect is great (even if the mana is mostly negligible.)

I don't have any experience with Orcs, but more DpS and fewer stuns makes for an appealing package (if I didn't hate the look of Orcs in caster gear.) And Demo locks will love the extra 5% DpS, which couls be up to an extra 2.5% overall DpS boost depending on the percentage of pet contribution (as far as I know, it is rarely above 50% of the total damage dealt, if you are playing it correctly.) Add in that Bloodlust can boost the Warlock DpS (and thus influences the Pet DpS as well), you have a great deal.

So, all in all, pick what you love to play. In the long run, a racial shouldn't make or break the game.

Edited, Mar 24th 2008 11:35pm by idiggory
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#20 Mar 27 2008 at 3:51 AM Rating: Default
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tzsjynx wrote:

Arcane Torrent is an Point Blank AE, making it devastating when surrounded by enemy casters...


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point-blank range is the distance between a firearm and a target of a given size such that the bullet in flight is expected to strike the target without adjusting the elevation of the firearm. The point-blank range will vary with the firearm and its particular ballistic characteristics, as well as the target chosen. A firearm with a flatter trajectory will permit a nearer minimum and further maximum point blank range for a given target size, while a larger target will allow for a longer point blank range for a given firearm.
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