Attack speed with Gladiator's X-bow.Follow

As a BM hunter, with 20 % speed increase and a 15 % quiver, what would my attack speed be using Gladiator's X-bow?

I'm not that good at math :)

Addressed with math in this thread: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/class.html?wclass=5;mid=119611288311976770;num=10;page=1

The math isn't hard if YOU USE A FRIGGEN CALCULATOR. It's simple...you take 3.1, divide it by 1.2, divide it by 1.15, and there you have it! Attack speed would be 2.24. Before you say "too slow" remember that for shot rotations, slower is BETTER. Less clipping of auto-shots that way, and you dont lose damage by having time between SS and AS.

I guess the question is where the OP is going to use this weapon. If it's for PVE, then yes it probably is too slow for a BM hunter.

If it's for PVP, who cares if it's too slow for the optimum steady/auto rotation. Odds are you're not going to be able to stand still in arena and spam your macro anyways :)

Assume two bows, first bow is 2.2 attack speed, second is a 3.1 attack speed. Both weapons are 78 base DPS, 32 DPS arrows are used, 2002 RAP, hit-capped, on mobs that cannot block.
Since crits and armor would both scale the same (i.e. an increase in 20% damage or a decrease in 30% damage to both) we will assume 0% crit chance on the hunter and 0 armor on the target.
Assume spec is BM, so attacks get a 38% attack speed increase from base.
RAP will give white shots an extra 143 DPS, and steady shots 400 damage on top of weapon damage. Overall white damage should equal to 253 before factoring in speed. Steady shot will have a cast time of 1.09, and as long as GCD is over before auto-shot starts will not clip the next shot.
First bow will do an average of 557 damage on white hits, and 572 damage on steady shot. Attack speed of 1.59 (perfect timing would get no clipping of auto-shots from steady shot). Every 1.59 seconds, an average of 1129 damage would be done, or 710 DPS.
Second bow will do an average of 784 damage per hit, 642 damage on steady shot. Attack speed is 2.25. Every 2.25 seconds, 1426 damage would be done, or 633 DPS.
Okay, maybe I was wrong, and you should seek out the fastest bow that you can get a shot rotation into successfully (since obviously 2.2 would be near impossible due to lag, maybe a 2.5 would be ideal then). If there was a slight difference (of around 1-5% DPS I would chalk it up to rounding error, but with a difference of 10.8% or 12.2% (depending which way you’re going) I guess faster is significantly better.

I'm using Alley's Recurve ( http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?source=live;witem=30226 ) right now. It has a 2.5 spd and even in MM spec I'm having a hard time weaving shots and not clipping. You REALLY have to be on top of the steady shot button and press it just as the autoshot fires (just before zhunters timer bar hits the end). I can't imagine trying this with BM swiftness talents. I'd always be clipping the autoshot.

You'd have to use some kind of macro or UI code to reduce the clipping, or be perfect with your timing all the time.

I have to admit my dps went way up from the 3.0 speed gun I was using, but it is much harder to weave in special shots, and I have to give up a steady for any other shot in the rotation. With the slower gun, I used to be able to fit a special shot and a steady in if I did the special to start or just after the steady fired. At my current speed, forget it, I have to dump the steady for the special.

Depending on the DPS of the bow itself.

also depends abit on talents and gear, do you have improved aspect of the hawk for example? or other haste effects

best i can say is download a spreadsheet and look it up, can be found here www.tkasomething.com

did a quick check on myself in the sheet comparing the 2 weps you were asking about and was somewhat surprised over the result :D

Crystalline Crossbow= 884dps
Gladiator XBow= 870dps

since im not hitcapped i decided to also try them vs lv70 mobs instead.
Crystalline crossbow still came out ontop and with just a slightly less diffrence in dps, CC was now 12dps more

now this is with iaoth and the standard BM build.

so no, i wouldnt say its an upgrade :D

ofc this is all based on "a perfect world" so to say and its ofc up to everyone to decide to them selfs how well this translates ingame