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#1 Dec 07 2007 at 10:20 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm trying to create a macro that controls my shape shifting. Popping into cat or bear form is no problem, but I'm having trouble when I want to go back into caster form. Here's what I have

/cast [button:1] cat form
/cast [button:2] dire bear form
/cast [button:3] cancelform

Again, I move into cat form and DB form no problem, but when I hit my mouse wheel, nothing happens. I've also tried 'cancel form', 'no stance', and 'nostance' all to no avail.

What's the command to switch back to human/caster form?

Thanks

ps, my mouse wheel does work properly - I use it in other macros with no issue.

Edited, Dec 7th 2007 12:21pm by actodd
#2 Dec 07 2007 at 10:29 AM Rating: Decent
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With the new 2.3 patch changing from one form to another can be accomplished in one click. Not sure why the need for a macro since you can change from Dire Bear to Cheetah in one click with the original buttons.
Am I missing something?

Edited, Dec 7th 2007 10:30am by Duedain
#3 Dec 07 2007 at 11:14 AM Rating: Good
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Well, regardless of how you wanna use it, this is the line you're looking for:
/cancelform

There is no /cast, just /cancelform
#4 Dec 07 2007 at 11:21 AM Rating: Good
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Isn't it true that most of the time when you want to go to caster form it's to DO something in caster form, like cast a heal or spell or buff or chug a potion? : /

You do know that since the 2.3 patch you can just click whatever you want to do and it'll autoshift you to caster form and do it, right?

And if you want to shift into caster form just for the hell of it, the default set of shapeshifting buttons above your primary action bar support that...the icon for whatever form you're in becomes the circle/starburst icon that means "turn me back into a humanoid."

Maybe I'm not getting what you're trying to do, or why.
#5 Dec 07 2007 at 11:21 AM Rating: Decent
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Thanks, I'll try that.

The reason I want this macro is to save space on my action bar. I'll be able to combine two buttons into one (actually 4 into 2 once I set one up for my travel and aquatic forms too).

#6 Dec 07 2007 at 11:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Maybe he is trying to powershift? If so, just make a macro that looks like this:

/cancelform
/cast Dire Bear Form

That should change your actual form to Bear, no matter what form you are.
#7 Dec 07 2007 at 11:34 AM Rating: Good
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Brisin wrote:
Maybe he is trying to powershift? If so, just make a macro that looks like this:

/cancelform
/cast Dire Bear Form

That should change your actual form to Bear, no matter what form you are.


Totally unnecessary macro...2.3 enabled macro-free powershifting. The default "shift to bear form" button shifts you to into bear form no matter what form you're currently in.

I myself still use macros to pop between forms because I've coupled the shifting with things like Prowl and Feral Charge, but evenin those there's no need for /cancelform anymore.
#8 Dec 07 2007 at 11:40 AM Rating: Decent
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I am still confused just like Jeebar.
With 2.3 Patch you can "Powershift" from any form to another or back to caster form. I have added a regen button to my action bar so when I am in cat and have finished somebody off I hit it (changes me to caster and instantly casts Regen) then I usually push Cat form again and stealth as I creep up to my next prey. With two clicks I have changed from cat to caster, casted Regen, and am back in to cat mode.
No need for "powershift Macros" since they built it right in to the new patch. Since your action bar changes with every form I would suggest adding an extra menu bar (done in options) and add a caster skill or a few that you would like to instantly use at any time or in any form. Once you click and cast all you have to do is switch back to cat or whatever form you want next.
#9 Dec 07 2007 at 12:33 PM Rating: Good
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Okay, here's a bit of info I can give ya cause I'm using similar macros.

Powershifting: This is not to change directly from a form to another. This is to shift out and instantly back in the same shape. With Furor this will let you gain some free Energy or Rage at the cost of some mana. (Think of it like a Warlock using Life Tap) In Cat form it'll let you push out more DPS and in Bear you can use it if you're out of Rage and really need to use Feral Charge.

Caster form: I personally don't wanna have to put all my caster spells on my bars just to have them unshift me. I always keep my heals and buffs on a separate bar for quick access but other than that my Cat and Bear bars only have Feral-related skills on them.

I've got my forms tied to Shift+1, 2, 3 and 4 so it goes like:
Caster, Bear, Cat, Travel.
I find it's always good to have quick access to it without having to cast a spell cause you don't always wanna have to spend the mana. Let's say you're shapeshifted and want to use a Wind Rider, are you really gonna cast a spell to shift out? Shift+1 lets me shift out and no time is wasted cause it's really quick to do.
#10 Dec 07 2007 at 12:48 PM Rating: Decent
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I really just wanted to combine two buttons into one and save some space on my toolbar. And I wanted a way to shift back into human form. I hadn't thought about an actual NEED to shift into human form, but it's nice to be able to if needed without having to cast a spell or something.

And actually, it just occured to me. I need to be in human form to use flight paths and I don't automatically shift (which is irritating). Anyway, there may be other occasions where I want to move from four to two legged-ness without casting a spell or some other proc.
#11 Dec 07 2007 at 3:18 PM Rating: Good
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And actually, it just occured to me. I need to be in human form to use flight paths and I don't automatically shift (which is irritating).


Yep, this is annoying. It will automatically dismount you, but it won't change forms. I will be very happy if they fix this :)
#12 Dec 07 2007 at 6:32 PM Rating: Decent
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try /cancelform [stance:1/3]

the / separator might be wrong, could be , or | instead I don't remember.
Any way that sentence will unshift you if you are in bear or cat form.
use [stance:1/2/3/4/5/6] for an "any-form" unshift.

Also keep in mind the order of the lines, or try adding [button:3] to the line
so you won't just shift into a form and directly out.
#13 Dec 07 2007 at 7:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, I have a potentially stupid question about shapeshifting macros. I want a powershift macro for use with Furor that will get me into Bear/Cat/whatever...I figured out how to do this. But I was looking at a Wolfshead Helm, and thinking it might be worth macroing in when I shift if I'm not in combat.

I was hoping to get a macro to equip that helm, shift, then equip my original helm back in, with a single action. Is this even possible? I've gotten the equip + shift thing working, but I haven't had any success getting the first helm back on in the same macro.
#14 Dec 07 2007 at 8:15 PM Rating: Good
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Selverein wrote:
Powershifting: This is not to change directly from a form to another. This is to shift out and instantly back in the same shape. With Furor this will let you gain some free Energy or Rage at the cost of some mana.

Oh yeah, I got that move, as 'splained below. : ) Semantics...I think of the word powershifting like in my old stick shift where I could slam through the gears without the clutch, so I think of that as changing from one form to another. No matter.

Lochnvar wrote:
Well, I have a potentially stupid question about shapeshifting macros. I want a powershift macro for use with Furor that will get me into Bear/Cat/whatever...I figured out how to do this. But I was looking at a Wolfshead Helm, and thinking it might be worth macroing in when I shift if I'm not in combat.

That should work now that Furor doesn't put you in combat anymore.

Do you use a gear swapping mod? I use Outfitter and here's my macro that combines powershifting AND the equipping of my Staff of Natural Fury to get the mana savings when I shift back into bear. It's also the macro I use to get into bear form every time. I think without Outfitter you could use "/equip Wolfshead Helm" on line two, but don't know because I've used Outfitter forever. NatFury in mine refers to an Accessory set that equips just my SoNF for every macro that shifts me into form.

/cancelform
/outfitter wear NatFury
/cast [nostance] Dire Bear Form; [stance:1] Feral Charge
/outfitter wear Tank

For good measure, here's the one macro that shifts me into cat if I'm in caster form, and powershifts me within Cat form for the 40 instant energy from Furor. If I'm out of combat a second click puts me into prowl/stealth.

/cancelform
/outfitter wear DPS
/cast [nostance] Cat Form; [stance:3] Prowl


Edited, Dec 7th 2007 8:18pm by JeeBar
#15 Dec 07 2007 at 8:21 PM Rating: Good
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RareBeast wrote:
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And actually, it just occured to me. I need to be in human form to use flight paths and I don't automatically shift (which is irritating).


Yep, this is annoying. It will automatically dismount you, but it won't change forms. I will be very happy if they fix this :)

They're making babysteps toward more convenient interaction ith NPCs anyway. With 2.3 they got rid of that annoying step where every time you'd talk to a flightmaster (or some other NPC) even if there's only one conversation you could have with them, you'd have to say "No shizzle sherlock, I'd like to fly...where can I go?" Hopefully the next step is instant unshifting for getting on a flight.
#16 Dec 10 2007 at 2:19 AM Rating: Decent
On the subject, I had an idea for a macro but lack the know-how to write it. I think it would be particularly useful for PvP. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. What I'd love is something like:

- If in normal form and I press mouse wheel out of combat, mount
- If mounted and I press mouse wheel, unmount and shift to cat form (+ prowl?).
- If in cat form in combat and I press the button, shift to dire bear form
- If in cat form, not in combat, prowl
- If in dire bear form in combat, shift to cat form
- If in dire bear form and not in combat, shift back to caster form

I don't know if that's asking too much from a single macro but from what (little) I understand of such things I imagine it ought to be possible. The general idea is just to make the more common things I tend to use simpler. I have referred to the macro guide in the main WoW forum on this site and can't figure out the syntax. Thanks in advance.

Edited, Dec 10th 2007 5:20am by KingsGambit
#17 Dec 10 2007 at 5:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Selverein wrote:
Okay, here's a bit of info I can give ya cause I'm using similar macros.

Powershifting: This is not to change directly from a form to another. This is to shift out and instantly back in the same shape. With Furor this will let you gain some free Energy or Rage at the cost of some mana. (Think of it like a Warlock using Life Tap) In Cat form it'll let you push out more DPS and in Bear you can use it if you're out of Rage and really need to use Feral Charge.

That was what I meant. I use powershift a lot as cat or bear, usually bound the macro to the mid mouse button. Pay some mana to have 10 rage/40 energy, IMO, is a fair fair trade.
#18 Dec 10 2007 at 6:30 AM Rating: Good
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Quote:

- If in normal form and I press mouse wheel out of combat, mount
- If mounted and I press mouse wheel, unmount and shift to cat form (+ prowl?).
- If in cat form in combat and I press the button, shift to dire bear form
- If in cat form, not in combat, prowl
- If in dire bear form in combat, shift to cat form
- If in dire bear form and not in combat, shift back to caster form


/use [nostance, nocombat] Name of your Mount
/cast [mounted] Cat Form, [stance:3, combat] Dire Bear Form, [stance:3, nocombat] Prowl, [stance:1, combat] Cat Form
/cancelform [stance:1, nocombat]

On the other hand, yes, I think that's asking too much from a single macro. I also haven't double-checked the macro and I'm still a bit tired so maybe I got confused somewhere in that pile of stuff. I can never recall exactly how the macros handle conditions.

What I personally use is:
-One macro to mount, the first line is /cancelform so whichever form I am in, I'll be able to mount all the same.

-Foolproof macros for all forms. Shift into specified forms regardless of the form you're in except if you're already in that form.

-One macro to return to caster. A simple /cancelform.

-Macros to combine skills. Prowl turns to Ravage when Prowling, and Shred becomes Pounce when Prowling.
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