What are people's thoughts here about carrying extra gear sets around? I'm currently Moonkin, and see no real reason to carry around a tanking or DPS set while I play. If I get an invite to a dungeon, I'll ask if I should bring a set along just in case, but otherwise, what are your thoughts on carrying sets for every form around?
I don't party much, so my answer should be easy - just don't carry it - but I like to think of myself as a good little druid who's ready for any situation. Even if the need to shift forms always occurs already in-battle so I can never switch gear and I'm fine anyway. >.>
Anyway - thoughts on lugging around extra gear sets? (I always keep my healing set with me, since, no matter what, you'll be doing some healing in a group).
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As a feral, I always carried two sets: a melee set and a healing set. Once I hit the Outlands my melee set evolved into two: a cat/dps set and bear/tanking set. To this day I carry those three sets all the time, because I never know when the need to play a certain role is going to arise.
After unworn gear and consumables I have two of my four 18-slot bags free for loot, which is plenty as long as I remember to sell junk and mail AH-able stuff to my bank alt every time I see a vendor and/or mailbox.
So I'm a big fan of "carry it if ya got it" but can't imagine a moonkin getting called on to intentionally tank or do melee dps, so I'd think you could stash that gear in the bank in case of an eventual respec.
After unworn gear and consumables I have two of my four 18-slot bags free for loot, which is plenty as long as I remember to sell junk and mail AH-able stuff to my bank alt every time I see a vendor and/or mailbox.
So I'm a big fan of "carry it if ya got it" but can't imagine a moonkin getting called on to intentionally tank or do melee dps, so I'd think you could stash that gear in the bank in case of an eventual respec.
I never carry this stuff with me. I just carry my dps cat set (sometimes a bear WEAPON for emergency situations) and leave the other 2 sets on the bank. When I have to heal or tank a instance, I just go to somewhere that has a bank, and get my set.
But, then again, I'm still 50ish, so maybe later on I will need those sets with me. But didn't untill now.
Edited, Dec 7th 2007 1:56pm by Brisin
But, then again, I'm still 50ish, so maybe later on I will need those sets with me. But didn't untill now.
Edited, Dec 7th 2007 1:56pm by Brisin
I usually don't carry the sets with me at lower levels. Heck, I've just started to bother with a DPS and tanking set, and it's only a few pieces cause I'm soloing 98% of the time.
At higher levels, however, I prefer to keep all sets on me to be able to change on the fly without having to locate a bank. (Let's say you're in SMV, get invited for a run in Auchindoun, have to get back to Shatt and then back to Auch, kind of a pain in the ***)
At higher levels, however, I prefer to keep all sets on me to be able to change on the fly without having to locate a bank. (Let's say you're in SMV, get invited for a run in Auchindoun, have to get back to Shatt and then back to Auch, kind of a pain in the ***)
I don't even have extra sets, let alone carry them. There, I said it. I am a druid, and I wear the one set of gear, all the time. We have found a witch, may we burn her?
I just hit the Outland and started slowly collecting healing gear when there isn't a good feral quest reward. I've done this purely because Quor and JeeBar said I have to. I've never put any of it on. Although the one skirty looking thing looks fun.
I don't mention this purely to be a smartass. People are always talking about carrying 3 sets of gear all the time. And they should, because they're hardcore players who group often. But I think reading that over and over on the forum can give the impression that you're a bad and ill-prepared druid if you don't have three sets of up-to-date specialized gear right there in your bag right this second, and IMO that is not necessarily true. It really depends on how you play and what you're doing.
I'd argue that it's very important as a druid to learn how to make it work with one set too. Everyone plays solo sometimes, and you can't change in combat. Unlike playing, say, a rogue where it's Of the Monkey and you're done, I found it difficult in my early druid days to learn the right balance of stamina, DPS, and healing in a single set of gear so I can handle whatever comes at me when I'm alone. It's an important druid skill that nobody ever talks about.
I just hit the Outland and started slowly collecting healing gear when there isn't a good feral quest reward. I've done this purely because Quor and JeeBar said I have to. I've never put any of it on. Although the one skirty looking thing looks fun.
I don't mention this purely to be a smartass. People are always talking about carrying 3 sets of gear all the time. And they should, because they're hardcore players who group often. But I think reading that over and over on the forum can give the impression that you're a bad and ill-prepared druid if you don't have three sets of up-to-date specialized gear right there in your bag right this second, and IMO that is not necessarily true. It really depends on how you play and what you're doing.
I'd argue that it's very important as a druid to learn how to make it work with one set too. Everyone plays solo sometimes, and you can't change in combat. Unlike playing, say, a rogue where it's Of the Monkey and you're done, I found it difficult in my early druid days to learn the right balance of stamina, DPS, and healing in a single set of gear so I can handle whatever comes at me when I'm alone. It's an important druid skill that nobody ever talks about.
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But I think reading that over and over on the forum can give the impression that you're a bad and ill-prepared druid if you don't have three sets of up-to-date specialized gear right there in your bag right this second, and IMO that is not necessarily true. It really depends on how you play and what you're doing.
While I partially agree with this, what would happen if you were to start liking to group up? It'd be much more of a pain to collect the different sets only then. Of course nothing should force you to do it, it's just one of those "In the event that..." thing.
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I found it difficult in my early druid days to learn the right balance of stamina, DPS, and healing in a single set of gear so I can handle whatever comes at me when I'm alone. It's an important druid skill that nobody ever talks about.
I don't think solo PvE content is hard enough to justify gauging those stats. For pure solo killing I think stacking the main physical stats does the job faster. Of course, you may not be as good to escape ****** situations but they shouldn't happen too often in the first place. (At least in my experience, not trying to be cocky)
However, in the PvP realm, such a balance is important. You will have to heal yourself rather efficiently, survive well while still being able to put good pressure on the enemy. If you play on a PvP realm with a decent population (unlike mine -_-) you might wanna keep such a balance to deal with wannabe gankers.
teacake wrote:
I don't even have extra sets, let alone carry them. There, I said it. I am a druid, and I wear the one set of gear, all the time. We have found a witch, may we burn her?
LIGHT 'ER UP!!!
J/K of course, to each his or her own.
teacake wrote:
I just hit the Outland and started slowly collecting healing gear when there isn't a good feral quest reward. I've done this purely because Quor and JeeBar said I have to. I've never put any of it on. Although the one skirty looking thing looks fun.
If you really never heal, and never want to, why waste slots. I myself only have one toon to speak of, so I like to mix things up by playing different roles when the situation allows or requires it.
teacake wrote:
I don't mention this purely to be a smartass.
Just a nice little side-effect, eh? :)
teacake wrote:
People are always talking about carrying 3 sets of gear all the time. And they should, because they're hardcore players who group often.
From what I've read in your other posts, we're a lot alike in terms of playstyle. I'm not "hardcore" and don't group as often as you'd think. And when I do group, out of 10 times I'll tank 7 or 8, dps 3, and heal once if that. I've got two kids and never know when they're gonna pull me away so I don't do as much grouping as I'd like. And I've got too much going on in my life to spend 2-3 hours in an instance more than maybe once a week. For me the advantage of carrying multiple sets is about not having to waste valuable playtime trying to find a healer or a tank or dps...groups come together faster because I can play any of the three roles.
Selverein wrote:
While I partially agree with this, what would happen if you were to start liking to group up?
Forget it, you peeps all have cooties.
Actually it's not a matter of likes and dislikes. There are lots of people out who for reasons of schedule or other factors really can't run instances. Those people will get a feel for what eq they do and don't need; I was just pointing out that play style is a factor. This is a fabulous class for solo play.
Selverein wrote:
I don't think solo PvE content is hard enough to justify gauging those stats. For pure solo killing I think stacking the main physical stats does the job faster. Of course, you may not be as good to escape sh*tty situations but they shouldn't happen too often in the first place. (At least in my experience, not trying to be cocky)
So you're saying I suck AND I look fat in these pants, is that it?
If by main physical stats you mean AGI/STR/STA, as feral that is mainly what I stack up. I didn't see things like attack power or crit chance much until I hit the Outland, and even now I still focus mainly on core stats. But even as feral I find I need some extra INT as I shift a lot and heal pretty frequently during fights. I generally use one slot for a piece of healing-focused gear so I'm wearing a little.
As for the difficulty of PvE content, I agree there are limits but in general I think it's as hard or easy as you want it to be. It's a big world and you can fight whichever and as many mobs as you want to. As I'm not running many instances or battlegrounds PvE isn't just filler for me, so I need to make it entertaining.
teacake wrote:
I'd argue that it's very important as a druid to learn how to make it work with one set too. Everyone plays solo sometimes, and you can't change in combat. Unlike playing, say, a rogue where it's Of the Monkey and you're done, I found it difficult in my early druid days to learn the right balance of stamina, DPS, and healing in a single set of gear so I can handle whatever comes at me when I'm alone. It's an important druid skill that nobody ever talks about.
I like the point about being ready for getting jumped...toward that end my "Normal" gear set in Outfitter is actually a mix of my tanking and healing sets so I have a nice mix of stamina, armor, mana, and +heal. I figure with that I might not be a killing machine but I'm a hard-to-kill-get-outta-dodge machine. But 9 fights out of 10 are planned, so I'd hate to have a bunch of marginally useful (at best) +int and +heal on the gear I go into melee combat with, even solo.
JeeBar wrote:
If you really never heal, and never want to, why waste slots
I actually like to heal (I have priest alts I heal with when running with my rl family/friends), and I can't tank. And since this is free stuff, I don't see why not. I may want it some day to group up with those rl people I just mentioned (that's so much easier than pugging cause you don't mind inflicting your gotta-go's on people who expect/understand them). My point wasn't that it's a waste to keep extra sets at all, only that you don't have to, and you should consider the way you play and what your goals are.
JeeBar wrote:
I've got two kids and never know when they're gonna pull me away.
I hear ya, but once my little one gets old enough to fill a DPS/CC slot, watch out!
I have never gone out of my way to collect extra sets (except tank & kitty of course). My healing gear (and balance gear that I never wear and sits in my bank) is purely made up from quest rewards & drops that were unwanted in instances & raids.
I'm feral to the core, but love going in to AV and healing for a while. It is amazing fun to have a rogue going flat out trying to kill you while you just heal through it :)
One day I will respec boomkin for a few days so I can try some nuking fun, but I will always be back to feral because THAT is what I am!
I'm feral to the core, but love going in to AV and healing for a while. It is amazing fun to have a rogue going flat out trying to kill you while you just heal through it :)
One day I will respec boomkin for a few days so I can try some nuking fun, but I will always be back to feral because THAT is what I am!
Right now I'm levelling are Feral so that's the gear I'm collecting. However sometimes I group up with two others, a Mage and Paladin, mainly for instances. So, since I want to be a healer in the end game I let her (the Paladin) tank and it's pretty obvious what the mage does. So instead of DPSing and then having to find another group member I'm using the chances that present themselves to practice healing as I advance up the ranks.
The benefit of this group is of course how to split the drops, I take leather, the Paladin takes mail and the mage takes cloth (minus any BoP blues that another class could make better use of). So I have two sets of gear, solo Feral and group Healing. However the only one I make an effort to collect is Feral. All my healing gear has come from random instance drops that I equip on the spot to help me heal better, otherwise I just sell them at the AH.
Anyway, I generally carry both sets around because our play time is sporadic and flying back to a bank and then to the instance is a pain. It doesn't really take up that much room since I don't go out and buy buy buy to fill every slot. But it helps a ton, and I don't mind giving away the space.
The benefit of this group is of course how to split the drops, I take leather, the Paladin takes mail and the mage takes cloth (minus any BoP blues that another class could make better use of). So I have two sets of gear, solo Feral and group Healing. However the only one I make an effort to collect is Feral. All my healing gear has come from random instance drops that I equip on the spot to help me heal better, otherwise I just sell them at the AH.
Anyway, I generally carry both sets around because our play time is sporadic and flying back to a bank and then to the instance is a pain. It doesn't really take up that much room since I don't go out and buy buy buy to fill every slot. But it helps a ton, and I don't mind giving away the space.
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