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not bad, you took pretty much all the essential talents in the prot tree except for 3/3 imp sunder which is somewhat debatable... i've had my doubts about it before, but 3/3 imp sunder = 9 rage sunder/devastate before 3/3 focused rage, which brings it further down to a 6 rage sunder/devastate... which means even with untalented HS and 3/3 focused rage, that means you can get a 12 rage HS and a 6 rage devastate aka 18 rage heroic devastate. not a bad way to spend some excess rage when shield slam/revenge/tclap/shield block are on cd.

you specced 5/5 cruelty, 5/5 parry and 3/3 imp tclap which are all essentials, and 2/3 HS is a matter of personal preference... but anger management is a doubtful choice at best, since in regular instances you can swap in some DPS gear if you're rage starved, and in heroics rage gen is not a problem since you're getting hit so hard... and deep wounds is really "eh??" as a choice. say you were using Crystalblade of the Draenei, and 40% of your average weapon damage would be 40 (.40 X [(70+131)/2]. then you divide that over 12 seconds, so for every second you would get 3.33 damage X 130% defensive stance threat modifier = an extra 4.29 threat per second. although you would normally want to maximize your TPS, there are better places to put those two points. 2 points in imp demo shout gives you a 16% reduction in the mob's AP = more survivability for you. if you really need the extra threat when tanking multiple mobs (and in most cases, keeping imp tclap and cleave on cd should be sufficient to keep mobs on you), there are other posts here about how you can put a shield spike on on your shield to help with multimob threat.


PS if my math is off, then please feel free to correct me.

Edited, Dec 6th 2007 12:19am by fromanthebarbarian

isnt sunder like completely useless if u got devastate.. so why spec for it?

I got anger management as well. Mainly because i dont know any other talents i might want. And in a boss fight which lasts for like 3,5 minute anger managemment gives me 75 rage. Which means the dps will be able to do more dmg without getting aggro.

The build im currently using for raiding is --> http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LA0czZVZdEtoh0d0est

Imp heroic strike is really nice. I use HS as a rage dumper but when im spamming hs/devastate my tps really goes sky high, being able to spam it longer makes my tps even higher.

Besides as i said, i cant think of a talent i havent got which is desperately needed for raiding karazhan. I could be wrong ofc.

Cheers



Edited, Dec 6th 2007 1:11pm by gnetter

Edited, Dec 6th 2007 1:12pm by gnetter

You spec for it because all talents that modify sunder also modify devastate. SO 9 rage sunders = 9 rage devastates.

Maybe something like this? http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LA0czZVZ0EtoI0d0est

I thought about putting 1 point into bloodrage and out of imp HS but then thought since imp sunder and focused rage would make it 9rage per devastate i was thinking a devastate/HS would be 21 rage and bloodrage provides 20 so angermanagement kicks in and makes that 21 + the boss might make the difference when he hits me

Im sorry take the three out of Imp defensive stance and put it in shield mastery. I will try using that then, i just thought anger management was good for long boss fights, Gruul for instance.http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LA0cZVZcEtoI0zcxst How about that? Also anyone wanna tell me why not having a longer buff that makes taking damage reduced by 75% isnt good? (imp shield wall is what im talkin about)

Edited, Dec 7th 2007 4:30pm by ZilkDS

Edited, Dec 7th 2007 4:37pm by ZilkDS

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Lq0cZVZbEtoI0zcest

Give that a try. That spec has worked wonders for me when Main and Secondary tanking. For Kara and ZA it's been a comfortable spec that gives me nearly endless rage and hate. It's taken me a while to refine my spec to be ideal for tanking, but I've found this to be the most efficient so far~ Not to say I don't welcome other ideas, however ^-^

That in mind, ideally I finish this spec with 1 talent point remaining. In this tree I made, I threw it into HS. In the past I've thrown it into TM, but I've found TM quite useless when prot spec, so I'm taking it off starting Monday when we raid ZA again. Also in the past I've done 3-4 Toughness to get full TM, go deeper into arms, or deeper into Fury for shouts, but again, for straight tanking, I've found this most ideal.

Hope that gives ideas. As far as the OP wondering "How's my spec", I'd say your thinking, and that's the best thing you can do as a tank. Try different specs and rotations to maximize your efficiency. There's a few "cookie cutter" tank specs, but there's a lot of room for personalization. Keep trying ^-^/

Edited, Dec 9th 2007 1:00pm by Hiroleonheart

Edited, Dec 9th 2007 1:03pm by Hiroleonheart