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Silly mage, polymorphing is for... idiotsFollow

#1 Dec 04 2007 at 7:04 AM Rating: Decent
My druid has been 70 for quite some time now, thus, I have taken part in many BGs (as have most 70s I'm sure). But in this, I have stumbled across the mystery of mages polymorphing me. And I have come to a few conclusions. That mages are unaware that its pointless because they don't know druids can just shapeshift out. Or that they want to burn the druid's mana. The 2nd one would seem like the more likely option, but mages don't continue to sheep me over and over.. they do it once and I see their pyroblast or fireball charging. Not to mention my mana isn't gonna run out on shifting and it only takes one Feral Charge in bear from to get to em. Maybe I should be posting this on the mage forums, who knows, just needed to rant about it because it keeps happening and the stupidity is begining to annoy me.

Edited, Dec 4th 2007 10:06am by aceXcanes
#2 Dec 04 2007 at 7:19 AM Rating: Decent
Don't underestimate the force of habit. When a class has an opener that will work in 90% of the cases, they will most likely be using it in 100% of them until they realize that "Doh! Forgot about Shapeshift and CC". Few mages are stupid.
#3 Dec 04 2007 at 7:26 AM Rating: Decent
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When I play on my mage I often polymorph druids when they are trying to cast HT if my CS is on CD. Might be one of the reasons and the other being, as mentioned above, habit.
#4 Dec 04 2007 at 7:28 AM Rating: Good
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Its not a horribly dumb thing in arena. sure they can shapeshift out of it, but it stops heals if only for the duration of a global cooldown.
#5 Dec 04 2007 at 7:54 AM Rating: Good
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Others gave good reasons why they might be doing it on purpose, but I don't think it's stupid to do it by mistake either. I feel like I'm seeing more and more druids out and about, but it's still a pretty rarely played class percentage-wise. Even at 70 I imagine there are people who haven't encountered/played with very many and don't know every little detail about the class, which doesn't make them stupid (as you note, it's not like they keep trying after they see it's not working).

I don't do BG's but I'm on a relatively low population/new server (think it's just hitting its 1 year anniversary) and I encounter players just out in the world who stop for a second to watch me fight and/or say they didn't know druids could do x or y. We're exotic. Don't get annoyed, use it. :)
#6 Dec 04 2007 at 9:04 AM Rating: Good
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Erm... Unless it changed since last time a Mage try to sheep me, I believe Feral forms now make you immune to it. So if you're already in a form and killing them, you'll just see a "immune" message pop up.

In that case, stupid Mage. (Or force of habit, meh)

To interrupt a heal, sure. Perhaps a Counterspell would be more effective though, mhm?
#7 Dec 04 2007 at 9:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Except that CS is on a... 24-second cooldown I think? Polymorph in one GCD and that's it. CS would be much better spent on, for example, a shadow priest, forcing him to either stand their or shift out and heal since it locks out every single damage spell.
Unless, of course, the druid is actually healing rather than feral, or is the only caster. In which case Poly is kinda stupid. Force of habit from mages who don't PvP incredibly often, I'd guess.

Edited, Dec 4th 2007 11:45am by lsfreak
#8 Dec 04 2007 at 9:52 AM Rating: Decent
it makes you push another button. ;p
#9 Dec 04 2007 at 10:34 AM Rating: Decent
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One second in pvp is a huge amount of time. So, if the mage tryes to Pollymorph you while you are about to heal the warrior of your team, maybe you are screwed, because you just wasted 2(or less) seconds of cast.
I would say it can be tactical, but then again, it can just be stupidity. It all depends on the case.
#10 Dec 04 2007 at 11:30 AM Rating: Decent
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teacake wrote:
Even at 70 I imagine there are people who haven't encountered/played with very many and don't know every little detail about the class,


This is a true statement. I can attest to this, as my guild never knew half of what a Druid could do until I came along. There was only one Druid in the guild, and he was Feral, so most of the guild didn't know about such gems as Innervate, battle rez, and Tranquility.
#11 Dec 04 2007 at 1:16 PM Rating: Good
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like KT said, polying a druid to halt a heal isnt a bad idea. if the mage is keeping a close eye on the druid, he can keep anything except lifebloom and rejuv from being used (and those he can spell steal if he needs too). in arena combat thats one of the only ways for a mage to shut a druid down, however temporarily.
#12 Dec 04 2007 at 1:24 PM Rating: Decent
I play a druid and a mage. I use polymorph as a second cs all the time. Many times followed up by an instant spell to break poly so they dont heal
#13 Dec 05 2007 at 2:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Borkin wrote:
teacake wrote:
Even at 70 I imagine there are people who haven't encountered/played with very many and don't know every little detail about the class,


This is a true statement. I can attest to this, as my guild never knew half of what a Druid could do until I came along. There was only one Druid in the guild, and he was Feral, so most of the guild didn't know about such gems as Innervate, battle rez, and Tranquility.


Just a little note: im a feral druid, and my healers LOVE me for my innervate, so your feral druid guildie was apparently only doing dmg, not supporting and other cool stuff we can do ;)
#14 Dec 05 2007 at 2:46 PM Rating: Good
Heh - I realised myself how stupid I was being when I tried sheeping a druid while playing my mage alt :)

You would think with 110 days played on my druid I would not even have to think to realise it is stupid (other than for CS reasons).
#15 Dec 05 2007 at 11:58 PM Rating: Decent
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RareBeast wrote:
Heh - I realised myself how stupid I was being when I tried sheeping a druid while playing my mage alt :)

You would think with 110 days played on my druid I would not even have to think to realise it is stupid (other than for CS reasons).


M8, if I were you, I wouldnt have written that :P
heh, it happens to even the best, so ;)
#16 Dec 07 2007 at 11:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Don't underestimate the mana-micromanaging game. If he's sheeping you for 50 or so mana, and you're shifting out to break it, he's getting the best of that matchup. It can also be a very cheap interupt. Now if mana is not an issue, which it tends not to be at lower levels or even without resilience, then yes, he is a moron heh. Also if he's polymorphing while you're immune that also makes him a moron.
#17 Dec 07 2007 at 1:29 PM Rating: Decent
I had one Experience with a stupid mage...well 2 really but with the same one.
I was in the 30-39 wsg and I was running the flag in travel form when I got to the ramp there was a mage waiting there and he tried to polymorph me when it didn't work he blinked towards me and tried it again. The funny thing is the next time i was running the flag the same mage did the same thing.
#18 Dec 10 2007 at 3:32 PM Rating: Decent
Auh, Im sorry yea I did not specify. I am a feral druid, so healing someone else... is sort of a rarity (unless emergency is upon me). And I agree with teacake, druids certianly are a rare class, compared to the rest. So all the tricks we have up our sleeves, I can understand, may be unknown to others. Just figured, by 70, some of these mages would have figured it out (especailly ones decked in PvP gear)

As far as how being feral applies, I probably wouldn't mind them poly morphing me, its a freee heal. I just stay polymorphed until I see their fireball/pyroblast/or w/e cast get almost through, and feral charge em.
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