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#1 Dec 02 2007 at 9:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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I've said many times before, I don't run instances while I am leveling. Today though, for some reason I did. I hadn't yet mapped out any quest lines, and was very curious about the new instances and such. My guildies are all a few levels lower than I am, so we ran Ramparts.

It was all guildies. A warrior, a druid healing (not specced resto), a pally, a warlock and myself. We did very well, first run went great. One shot (no shock it's not hard) The pally, warlock, and myself decided to go another round. We found a warrior, and a 62 hunter. *sigh*

At first it was... okay. We thought it may go slow because pally only had around 3k mana. Drink after each fight kinda thing. Then all of a sudden I draw a ton of aggro and am dazed... and dazed... and dazed. Said hunter decided to FD and turn on his aspect of the pack (not cheeta PACK!) and make for the exit. A couple of WTF go around and all hunter has to say for himself (because we were in no danger with one elite and 2 nonelite wolves) is "woa close one". We shrugged thinking he is taking to many happy pills and moved on.

First boss (patroller) he dismisses pet right after we kill boss. I asked him to pull it back out after we down him and he says "I don't want her to die". We start asking guildies to take his place and finish up the run with us. After more stupid moves (like pulling while warrior is peeing <afk> and healer is drinking, causing a wipe... which he FD through the enitre fight.) We still can't find anyone. On the group we TRIED to skipped right before the stairs, he runs right up to them and starts swinging, gets to half health FD and stays that way. We all decide to boot him. Found a priest and finished without any more trouble. I got numerous tells from him (since I was leader and doing all the pulling/marking so I got the honor of booting him) telling me he didn't think I was a very nice person. His whole job was to shoot things. Come on... in this case his role was not complicated.

I've never seen a huntard quite that bad. He made me wish I was a different class. I mean seriously, is this the kinda thing every class thinks of us?
#2 Dec 02 2007 at 9:43 PM Rating: Good
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Hunters DPSing with Eyes of the Beast trumps that.
#3 Dec 02 2007 at 10:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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I was about to tell my story about a hunter in Mech with part greens, several pieces of shaman gear (some with STR, one with +spell crit), +8 AP vendor gems, and THREE pieces of Kara gear. He kept trying to tell ME how to play, but was messing up more than anything. I swear, I was about to kick him. Hell, I almost kicked him as soon as I saw the Kara gear on a hunter who clearly doesn't know anything about their class.

I asked the group to wait up on pulling one of the mini bosses so I could update the Misdirect Macro that I use during 5-man runs. He tried to tell me to not use a macro, but then MDed to the rogue. Uh huh. That's EXACTLY why I use /target NameOfTank /cast Misdirection.

Then, on the second mini boss, it was my job to MD pull. After I pulled, he apparently had the wrong mob targeted, and attacked a mob all the way across the room, which agro'd several mobs. Instead of Feigning Death and letting the pet die, he called pet pet back. At least if he had taken himself out of combat, there might have been a tiny CHANCE that the mobs would have reset. But pulling the pet back caused a wipe.

That was all after pulling two groups of mobs while everyone else was still trying to figure out which order to kill the mobs in, and which mobs should be CCed. Luckily, he didn't break my "OMFG TRAP!" or else I would have broken HIS NECK.

And once we were done, He was BARELY above the tank on the Damage meter. Never once used kill command, and didn't have any sort of shot rotation that I could see.

I'll admit that I've made my own huntard mistakes here and there, but I limit it to ONE stupid mistake per instance! I, unlike some people, learn from my mistakes!

oh wait... I told my story. lol. Well, it doesn't compare to the hunter who DPSed with eyes of the beast. Did he think he was a DRUID?!
#4 Dec 03 2007 at 1:58 AM Rating: Good
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That's pretty bad. I'm glad my experience wasn't EotB DPSing or I'd have burst into tears.
#5 Dec 03 2007 at 3:59 AM Rating: Decent
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I once joined a ramps group with my alt druid, 4 others were from same guild called "Darkz Legion" 1st clue, they were all Night Elves. 2nd Clue. Anyway, just think of OPs Huntard and translate that to those 4. That's what I got myself into. It was sad and hilarious.
#6 Dec 03 2007 at 4:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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I don't usually post but a recent event struck a nerve.

Having huntards/dumbasses/mentally-deficient-five-year-olds in PVP isn't uncommon. Infact I seem to find more of them in the 60-69 band than most of the others. Anyway... while most of the team was grinding honor or chasing down flag carriers me (68 hunter), a UD rogue started making our way to their flag room. pet dismissed, aspect of the beast on and the rogue stealthed, we were more or less invisible. The plan: I draw attention while between the two of us we trap, sap and kill the 3 defenders. Almost worked, almost. Some greasy little lvl61 hunter (with no active pet!!!) ran in took the flag and ran towards their GY (now pumping out freshly ressed allies). Needless to say he got maimed and we didn't last long as the reinforcements piled in. I admit. this seems a little over the top posting this. It's a BG! it's full of idiots and bad tactics. But when the same hunter follows you around (STILL NO PET!!) waving a 'free kill flag' it gets on your nerves.

We lost. no biggie. he appeared in a few other games and followed me like an incontenant puppy. I just can't understand why you would enter a BG at lvl61 (to **** off all the players who want to win perhaps??) and have NO PET!!!
#7 Dec 04 2007 at 1:13 AM Rating: Good
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ProjectMidnight wrote:
Uh huh. That's EXACTLY why I use /target NameOfTank /cast Misdirection.
The only thing i'd add is /assist at the end.
Makes it all go a bit smoother imo.
#8 Dec 04 2007 at 6:47 AM Rating: Good
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And I'd use Focus and not need to update the macro every time I had a new tank. Or even target the Tank at all. :)

Edited, Dec 4th 2007 9:48am by Kompera
#9 Dec 04 2007 at 7:03 AM Rating: Good
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I ran into a lvl 18 Hunter the other day that was running around in Deadmines (pre instance) with no pet out, I asked him why he didn't have it out and he said she was dead and I told him he could use rez pet to get her back, and he asked me what "rez" meant and where to find the skill "rez pet" in his spell book.

Level 18 is still low but it's 8 whole lvls from when you finish the pet quest, so this is more of newb thing than a noob thing, but still, crapp like that happens all the way to 70 with people who solo all the way from 1-70 with little to no instancing experience.
#10 Dec 04 2007 at 11:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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I ran into a hunter a while back and he asked me how i was able to change my pets out. I told him that there's three slots at the stables. I always keep two pets and have the 3rd one as a catch and release kind of pet. Then I tell him what he has to do to get higher ranking abilites for his pet (to explain the catch and release pet). His words:

I don't have to change my pet out, they learn them when they lvl up noob.

There really should be some way to turn the PvP flag on someone's account and kill them when you need to.

#11 Dec 04 2007 at 11:47 AM Rating: Excellent
bravefenceralucard wrote:
There really should be some way to turn the PvP flag on someone's account and kill them when you need to.

There is. I just pop on the Ventrilo belonging to a friendly horde guild. Unless I'm in a city or in an instance, it usually takes less than five minutes before a couple of Netherdrakes come swooping down. Of course, we return the favors. Friendly relations with the other faction has so many benefits!
#12 Dec 04 2007 at 12:12 PM Rating: Good
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That's evil, North. I like it.
#13 Dec 04 2007 at 9:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Here's my huntard story. I saw a hunter in AV with Executioner on his axe, so I gave him advice on what enchant he should have on the axe. After a few seconds, he replied with a bunch of swear words. /ignore.

Edited, Dec 5th 2007 12:25am by Romordi
#14 Dec 05 2007 at 4:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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Romordi wrote:
Here's my huntard story. I saw a hunter in AV with Executioner on his axe, so I gave him advice on what enchant he should have on the axe. After a few seconds, he replied with a bunch of swear words. /ignore.


1. If you go around giving advices none asked you to, dont expect much thanks.
2. That is not a huntard story, that is a very usual "average WoW player" story.

#15 Dec 05 2007 at 5:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Last night I was running AV farming some honor. I see this NE running at me with a polearm and think to myself, "Ok, here comes a warrior, get ready to scatter his *** and get your kite on." As I hover my mouse over him to target , I see he's a level 70 hunter and he's still just running right at me.

At this point I was rather confused as to why this hunter was still running at me and hadn't pulled up to shoot yet. I hit him with a conc shot, sic pet, kite for a little laughing the whole time. When I got him down to 35%ish, hit him with a wyvern sting, popped my trinket and the orc racial (can't rememer the name right now) and charged up a Aimed Shot to end this huntard. Pow, dropped him, and proceeded to /laugh.

Not ONCE did he pull out his bow. No conc shot, no stings to slowly wear on me, not even a god damn pet PRESENT, let alone nipping at my heals. My guildies and I had a good laugh on vent over that encounter.
#16 Dec 05 2007 at 12:53 PM Rating: Good
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Two nights back my priest was running Scarlet Monastery - Library. Our group had two hunters. About a third of the way through the instance BOTH hunters exclaim that they are out of ammunition and start meleeing. Neither apparently knew what wingclip is for as runners happened frequently. After the second wipe, I left.
#17 Dec 05 2007 at 2:34 PM Rating: Decent
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North you are an evil man, a diabolically evil man.

I have a Palitard story.

Mind you this Paladin is the leader of a guild, and tanks kara.

So doing Heroic Bot, this guy is tanking and so far it's going good, he seems a bit slow, and we have a a few pauses, all bearable.
As it gets more into needing to trap I notice that this guy is throwing his shield and body guiding the mobs into my trap. This is resulting in the wrong mob getting trapped so and maybe a wipe or two at this point, I say in party chat "Please do not guide the mobs into my trap, I am a hunter, I have more accurate ways to bring the correct mob into my trap." and no response from him.
One guy in the party is whispering me how the tank is slow tonight, but is unusual because he tanks Kara.
This continues to go on.

After another wipe or two I restate "I am a Hunter, do not guide mobs into my trap, I am a precise tool at ranged skills, I am far better equipped (Not as in gear) for pulling mobs into where I want them to be than you are."
He replies in party that my traps are to close to his consecration so he has to guide them into the trap.
I know well enough how far away my traps should be and tell him to stand still and let me do my job.
He does it again resulting in a wipe.
I tell him to stand on a bunch of sacks and tank there, I place my trap far where I have been placing it and all goes well till I accidentally shoot my trap, run backwards to kite and aggro the mobs behind us that he elected to skip. Group wipes, and he boots me. So I just spent an hour and a half (And we haven't even got to the second boss.) of frustration, miss 3 or 4 guild run groups that went through it like butter, and a large repair bill.

WTF, I call him on his wrongness for doing my job, make one mistake that shouldnt have happened, and get booted.
The paladin
#18 Dec 07 2007 at 1:48 PM Rating: Good
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Darigraz wrote:
North you are an evil man, a diabolically evil man.

I have a Palitard story.

Mind you this Paladin

One guy in the party is whispering me how the tank is slow tonight


For a second, I thought you were talking about me :P. But I'm just a lvl 42 atm.

When I've tanked, I like to move at a "steady" (read: medium/slow) pace. I take the time to mark targets, pull targets back, and I'll stop the group if a member is /oom. So far no complaints, and we have much success this way.

(the following is not directed at all torward you, Darigraz) I will say that one thing I absolutely hate is party members who take it upon themselves to move the party along in an instance when they feel the tank is moving too slow, deciding they want to go pull more mobs when both the tank and healer are drinking. When this happens, I just continue to sit there and watch the over-anxious puller die. Fortunately, the healer is also our guild master, who has my back and joins in watching said puller die ;).

Edited, Dec 7th 2007 4:48pm by hcddog

Edited, Dec 7th 2007 4:49pm by hcddog
#19 Dec 07 2007 at 2:57 PM Rating: Good
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Shouldn't they be called Palidunce's? ^_^
#20 Dec 07 2007 at 3:39 PM Rating: Good
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I second that Sloshot.
#21 Dec 07 2007 at 7:23 PM Rating: Decent
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I concur

He wasnt slow as in being a good tank making sure we are all ready, he was slow/afk/oblivious most the time it took us 1-2 hours to get to the second boss.
#22 Dec 22 2007 at 7:38 AM Rating: Decent
I was reading through the posts and just had to respond to this one. Now, I do have a hunter PVP twink and am working on leveling one so I'm sure I will make mistakes (I hope to god I learn from them), but this was a horrible experience...

I was healing on my main (priest) in slabs and we had a hunter that kept pulling too much aggro. He would put down a trap and not stand anywhere near it and pull aggro (basically trying to tank his own mob). I would heal him (I watch everyone in my party) and he would FD (nowhere near his trap) and the mob would run straight to me. This caused several wipes. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and very nicely explained what was happening. Asked him to be careful about when/where he was using fd because the aggro was directed at me almost every time he did this. I assured him that I was healing him and most of the time there was no need to feign. He told me it was my responsibility to run to his trap. I explained that because I was healing I needed to be in certain positions for LoS purposes and could not always see his traps. He said he understood but his behavior did not change. The entire group was upset and he kept saying it was my fault for not running to his trap. It ended up that my group finally told me not to heal him (in party). Even with him dieing we had fewer group wipes. He actually finally got 'the picture' and started playing 'smarter'...watching his aggro and setting up traps closer to where I was standing etc.

I guess that's not quite as bad as the rogue in VC who asked me what dps was (benefit of the doubt? he was 'young')...but there can't be an excuse for the lock in zf who said she could not seduce a troll because she could only seduce humanoids...or even worse the mage in a group in brd who asked what cc was.

In situations like this all I can do is shake my head and laugh :-)
#23 Dec 22 2007 at 8:58 AM Rating: Decent
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First time i tanked ramparts on my pally,we had a hunter in group who insisted on doing the pulls.....using multishot....while i was drinking.... o.O

Two wipes later (long before we even got to the first boss,I left :D

Needless to say I found myself another (huntardfree) group,and oneshotted the instance in a short time :D
#24 Dec 23 2007 at 7:17 AM Rating: Decent
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the first few runs of ramparts i did were horrible, people not getting that they needed to use any form of tactic everywhere.
though once you get past that instances are good again.
#25 Dec 23 2007 at 8:12 AM Rating: Decent
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My holy pally has been running lots of ramps/furnace/underbog to level. 98% solid players of all classes, including hunters, but the two worst--by far--were hunters.

1. This 61 hunter knows how to play, but he pulls at will, often before i've finished drinking or the tank has finished marking. Every pull is a struggle.

The tank gets tired of this fast, as he should. The rest of group asks hunter politely to let the tank do his job. Hunter starts name calling and using profanity and claims the tank was moving too slow. (Tank was doing fine.)

Before we can kick the hunter, tank leaves and logs out, so we can't get him back. Then the hunter leaves.

While waiting for replacements (which we got and went on smoothly), I try to contact some of his higher-level fellow guildies to find out what his problem might be. None reply.

A little later in gchat hunter comes on and says he's having a grand time getting run through furnace by some 70s. In a moment of weakness, I take the bait and tell him he needs 70s cause he's such a drag on a group, etc.

Anyways, eventually it comes out that he's his guild's master. I guess that explains why none of his fellow guildies responded to me when i told them he was being such a jerk. However, it seems telling that none of them defended him.

2. Different hunter: he had no group skills. Really, zero, and did everything wrong except try to pull by himself like the "guild master" in the previous story. Pet growl on, boar charge, attack before mobs reach tank on ranged pull, multishot/volley early and often, never feigned death, didn't focus on tank's target.

Group pretty quickly and firmly lets him know he's messing up. He actually listens. By the end of the run he has transformed into a solid group player. He's even CC'ing with freeze traps.

Noob 1, GM 0.
#26REDACTED, Posted: Dec 23 2007 at 11:03 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) some people should reroll, than making hunter look bad.
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