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Improved Righteous Fury and HeroicsFollow

#27 Dec 04 2007 at 5:42 AM Rating: Good
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Celcio wrote:
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God this is turning into a dork slap-fight.


Doesn't everything on the Allakhazam WoW Boards? Smiley: laugh


Yes Smiley: glare


Just think, though. If the meek ever DO inherit the earth, we will be some of the strongest contenders at their primary form of physical combat. We will dominate!

/flex


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#28 Dec 04 2007 at 7:57 AM Rating: Decent
punkspider wrote:
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Actually, Tank > Physics... Tank can take a hit from a 100-ton Dragon eater, wheras a person using physics rules would get destroyed by such a punch, no matter how shiny his armor was


ok so is it the 100-ton dragon eater the one hitting you or is it the dragon?? cause if it's the dragon i dont see how they really punch, if it's the 100-ton dradon eater, i think the person useing physics would also use reason and hear it comeing and run his **** off to get away. not to mention how fast could a 100-ton dragon eater swing a punch and how hard would it be to dodge it? or have it change direction of it's punch??



Dragon eater = Gronn = Gruul = death
#29 Dec 04 2007 at 8:01 AM Rating: Good
Overlord CapJack wrote:
Actually, Tank > Physics... Tank can take a hit from a 100-ton Dragon eater, wheras a person using physics rules would get destroyed by such a punch, no matter how shiny his armor was.


Physics still matters. It's just that each bit of Armor on the suit actually ways a pound, so you're _really_ heavy.
#30 Dec 04 2007 at 8:25 AM Rating: Good
Damn, I'm that heavy and with paladin itemization ive got no strength to move myself around. I'm like an infernal in Prince encounter, just sit there and throwing out consecrations.
#31 Dec 04 2007 at 3:35 PM Rating: Decent
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ramera, Pie Eating Champion wrote:

Personally for heroics, I don't think Uncrushable is important at all.


Which is why I stated that you don't have to be uncrushable to run heroics. However if you move toward that, chances are you're going to up your avoidance (which the OP definitely needs to work on) which is going to help a lot. The thing though is that you DO want to be uncritable for the level (darn pickers of nits). Why?

An Example - The OP has 10.5K health or so unbuffed. He runs Blood Furnace and gets into that hallway/ramp with the uppercutting demon guys. 3 regular hits (within something silly like 3 seconds) on me were for between 3-4K*. 1 crit on those after a regular hit and that's a dead tank before the healer can even complete a follow-up heal or hit the Oh Sh*t button.


*This was from ONE of the two, the other one was trapped effectively.


I hate that place. Anyway, we are both thinking of the same lines. My previous post wasn't as precise as I wanted it to be. I was meaning, Dodge > Block. A lot of people do think overall avoidance matters, but heroics are a bit odd.

I had a guildmate complaining about heroic ramparts. He was dying on every pull. I looked up his armory, only 440 defense. He got a lecture.

Edited, Dec 4th 2007 6:35pm by ramera
#32 Dec 04 2007 at 11:06 PM Rating: Decent
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I had a guildmate complaining about heroic ramparts. He was dying on every pull. I looked up his armory, only 440 defense. He got a lecture.


Now here's my question:

Was it before or after they lowered the rep requirement to honored when this happened?

If after the fact I say: HINT HINT BLIZZARD
#33 Dec 04 2007 at 11:15 PM Rating: Good
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Overlord CapJack wrote:
Damn, I'm that heavy and with paladin itemization ive got no strength to move myself around. I'm like an infernal in Prince encounter, just sit there and throwing out consecrations.


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#34 Dec 11 2007 at 10:04 AM Rating: Decent
DrkMateo wrote:
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I had a guildmate complaining about heroic ramparts. He was dying on every pull. I looked up his armory, only 440 defense. He got a lecture.


Now here's my question:

Was it before or after they lowered the rep requirement to honored when this happened?

If after the fact I say: HINT HINT BLIZZARD


Ive been gone a lot and missed this one. No he was Revered...

He is an RL friend, he was gearing himself wrong. Basically he was all INT/Spell damage. He wasn't giving very much to avoidance and defense rating. I mean for a prot paly he had like 10k mana and around 300 sd. He was actually pretty good for most 70 instances, but he really had to have a good healer.

He was basically a tank with all the bang, but no bling.
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