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#1 Nov 30 2007 at 5:17 AM Rating: Good
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Level 40: buy Apprentice riding skill and 60% ground mount
Level 60: buy Journeyman riding skill and 100% ground mount
Level 68: Do not buy Expert riding skill, get it for free when you train flight form at trainer like any other skill; laugh at friends of other classes
Level 70+: buy Artisan riding skill and either complete extremely difficult quest for swift flight form or plunk down cash for epic flyer

Is this right?

I know there's a bazillion places that talk endlessly about all this but I need to make sure I have the summary straight in my pea brain. I just hit the Outlands (yay me) and as I'm a casual player and don't have time for raiding and whatnot, from now through the level cap and beyond I'm going to focus mainly on making sure I have my riding skill, professions, and gold stash where I want them when WoTLK comes out and if I can make any extra between now and then, farming gold to fund alts.
#2 Nov 30 2007 at 5:23 AM Rating: Decent
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Only comment is on the extremely difficult quest part.... it's not. Although you do need to get rep with lower city to enter heroic shadow labs.
#3 Nov 30 2007 at 5:40 AM Rating: Decent
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Hang on so you don't need to buy expert but you do need to buy artisan? I didnot know that... and it makes no sense
#4 Nov 30 2007 at 5:40 AM Rating: Good
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It's Heroic Seth Halls, not SL.

And I heard the quest is painful at times, especially against the "Balance" boss. I'm eager to get there and do it on my own Druid, even though it's a long way from now.

When I helped a guildie run Seth Halls, it was rather hard and we wiped a lot. The past times I ran it, though, we only had a few wipes if any.
#5 Nov 30 2007 at 10:41 AM Rating: Good
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heroic sethekk just needs the right kind of CC and a good tank to make it easy. bringing a priest to MC helps immensely, and shackle doesnt hurt either. for a tank, druids can do it just fine, but warriors are nice to have just because disarm helps loads on the ravenguards after the first boss, and tclap is great on melee in general. that doesnt mean a druid cant tank it, just that you need to bring a good warrior along to make life a little easier.

and even thats not necessary if your armor and avoidance is high enough.
#6 Nov 30 2007 at 12:15 PM Rating: Decent
Quor wrote:
heroic sethekk just needs the right kind of CC and a good tank to make it easy. bringing a priest to MC helps immensely, and shackle doesnt hurt either. for a tank, druids can do it just fine, but warriors are nice to have just because disarm helps loads on the ravenguards after the first boss, and tclap is great on melee in general. that doesnt mean a druid cant tank it, just that you need to bring a good warrior along to make life a little easier.

and even thats not necessary if your armor and avoidance is high enough.


Also because on the boss for flight form you'll want to keep HoTs up on the birds, and you can't do that as a tank.
#7 Nov 30 2007 at 12:59 PM Rating: Good
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DKDruid wrote:
Only comment is on the extremely difficult quest part.... it's not. Although you do need to get rep with lower city to enter heroic shadow labs.


A follow up question, just out of curiosity, is there a reason you need swift flight form vs. an epic flyer? Supposing a person wasn't in a position to run a heroic instance in order to complete that quest, and just bought their mount instead? It isn't like they're the warrior who never got defensive stance, right? Is it just the coolness factor? I wonder if in the next expansion they'll make it a prereq for something.

(edited cause I never spell curiosity right the first time)


Edited, Nov 30th 2007 4:01pm by teacake
#8 Nov 30 2007 at 1:14 PM Rating: Good
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The only, but nevertheless important, advantage the form has over a flyer is the absence of casting time. The very second you drop out of combat you can shift and fly away while a flyer takes a whole 3 seconds to mount.

Makes a difference. Definitely does. :(
#9 Nov 30 2007 at 3:41 PM Rating: Good
Jump on the test server and try it out, then see if you feel you "need" it :)

I love it sooo much! I hate my alts with their stupid slow motion flying mounts (it feels like it would be faster to get off and run!)


The balance boss that is mentioned above is quite difficult to beat, but the simple answer is just to bring a friend or two and it becomes trivial. (it is satisfying to beat them all solo though and have to use all the tricks of all the facets of our class).
#10 Nov 30 2007 at 3:51 PM Rating: Good
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RareBeast wrote:
Jump on the test server and try it out, then see if you feel you "need" it :)

I love it sooo much! I hate my alts with their stupid slow motion flying mounts (it feels like it would be faster to get off and run!)


Versus an epic flyer? The WoW site says they're both 280% speed?
#11 Nov 30 2007 at 4:11 PM Rating: Good
Damn. I misread the original statement. In that case, the way I look at it is, you have already spent the money on the training, why not do the easy (with friends) quest chain and a heroic dungeon (most people are regularly running heroics anyway). It's ususally not too hard yo get a group together, particularly when you mention their is a chance that the bird mount will drop :)

Also, if you hold out for a week or two and do all the Netherwing daily quests, you end up getting a free Netherdrake anyway (and make a heap of money from the quests as well).

I see zero reason not to get epic flight form, even if it did have a cast time.
#12 Nov 30 2007 at 4:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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RareBeast wrote:
why not do the easy (with friends) quest chain and a heroic dungeon (most people are regularly running heroics anyway).


The dungeon would be my problem. I usually can't be on for as long as an instance takes and my play time is frequently and unpredictably interrupted. Not to mention my druid is feral but the only group role I really like is healing. It makes the concept of end game a bit nebulous for a girl who hates to PVP, as I doubt I'll ever be able to raid. Thank goodness I'm addicted to alts (although frankly they all seem like gimped druids to me ;)).

I do run instances occasionally with a static group of rl family/friends though (you can't get mad at me when the kid wakes up and I disappear in the middle of a boss fight if, for example, she's your kid too).
#13 Dec 02 2007 at 4:33 AM Rating: Decent
teacake wrote:
DKDruid wrote:
Only comment is on the extremely difficult quest part.... it's not. Although you do need to get rep with lower city to enter heroic shadow labs.


A follow up question, just out of curiosity, is there a reason you need swift flight form vs. an epic flyer? Supposing a person wasn't in a position to run a heroic instance in order to complete that quest, and just bought their mount instead? It isn't like they're the warrior who never got defensive stance, right? Is it just the coolness factor? I wonder if in the next expansion they'll make it a prereq for something.

(edited cause I never spell curiosity right the first time)


Edited, Nov 30th 2007 4:01pm by teacake


Can't recover from a fatal 'edge-of-the-world' fall in Outland with a regular epic flyer. Also can't pick herbs.

As far as the prerequisite aspect, Blizzard has a bad habit of making old, hard-earned stuff obsolete to accommodate the (inevitably) larger playerbase who never actually achieved those goals. So I'd be surprised if they did.
#14 Dec 03 2007 at 3:26 PM Rating: Good
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teacake wrote:
I usually can't be on for as long as an instance takes and my play time is frequently and unpredictably interrupted.


*patpat* You and me. You and me.
#15 Dec 03 2007 at 3:56 PM Rating: Good
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Raglu wrote:
teacake wrote:
I usually can't be on for as long as an instance takes and my play time is frequently and unpredictably interrupted.


*patpat* You and me. You and me.


Hee. I so wish they'd put some sort of checkpoint system in instances that would enable a group to pick up where they left off another time. There're a million ways you could organize a system like that for people like us who are forced to be casual players by virtue of not being able to sit at our PC's for 3 hours straight. I think the last end boss I saw was Van Cleef.

(Edited cause "QQ" should at least be spelled right.)

Edited, Dec 3rd 2007 6:58pm by teacake
#16 Dec 04 2007 at 12:43 AM Rating: Decent
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If you are having problems with the balance boss, just bring a few caster friends and thell them that highest crit gets 5 gold ^^ Works like a charm on damage addicted casters. He will be down within seconds.

And about the instance, my mad on SL, it is ofc sethekk halls. On the topic of what tank to bring i actually found that instance to be quite good for druid tanks, since that brings more CC into the big pulls. The last pull before endboss is about 6 mobs if i remember correctly, and one of them is a bird, so i usually hibernate pull and tank the lvl 72. The ravenguards before that do hit like a truck, but with a rogue stunlocking the main tank target, the damage is reduced dramatically.
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