not tanking him, but rather, dpsing the sparks. my team's last kara run we could only get curator to 30%. druid tank was getting more threat on him, so i was the de facto hateful bolt tank. our dps consisted of 3 locks, 1 spriest, and a mage. dps up to curator was superb, but at some point i would see two or three sparks up at any given time. when i came as dps in my first run, a combat rogue (Furtiva) and i would burn the sparks down with the other dps fast enough just as another spark would spawn.
any suggestions here? is there anything our locks/sp/mage could do differently? or is it just a poor dps choice for this fight (not enough burst damage)?
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You guys are just spamming shadowbolts right? Don't waste your time on dots. Everyone just target the adds right away and let loose. Bring a bunch of shards and spam shadowburn, when you down curator you can get them back on the trash after him.
Edited, Nov 29th 2007 10:51pm by mikelolol
Edited, Nov 29th 2007 10:51pm by mikelolol
For some reason it was difficult to get my guild to understand the burst damage of this fight. Many people would try falling into the same rotation that they would on a normal boss, and for locks escpecially it can't be done that way (unless your destuction). Nothing but Shadowbolts and shadowburn if you got it, hell even death coil when it's on cool-down(I save mine for when he evicates though).
There are also little tricks each class has that could help them. For example if you have nightfall talented try and keep a corruption on the curator at all times. That instant shadowbolt just makes it that much easier.
As for when he evicates, if your locks have Improved shadowbolt I would have them time the curse of doom toward the middle to end of the cycle and spam shadowbolt like there is no tommorrow. 3 curses of doom with an improved shadowbolt buff and a shadow priest = win. However, if they don't have Improved shadowbolt have them time it to go off right away and then put up a Curse of elements or shadows.
There are also little tricks each class has that could help them. For example if you have nightfall talented try and keep a corruption on the curator at all times. That instant shadowbolt just makes it that much easier.
As for when he evicates, if your locks have Improved shadowbolt I would have them time the curse of doom toward the middle to end of the cycle and spam shadowbolt like there is no tommorrow. 3 curses of doom with an improved shadowbolt buff and a shadow priest = win. However, if they don't have Improved shadowbolt have them time it to go off right away and then put up a Curse of elements or shadows.
ok here how I would do it.
1) lock on curator or one other. +tank
2) all others on sparks make a macro to select them
3) try having a mele class with you
4) Spread out so only one or two get interupts from sparks (they chain damage) so no hugging
5) with boss mods on you will see when evo is going to proc make sure u have trinkets ready for that.
6) last sparks get down ASAP then all nuke Curator a lock with be doing 4-6K ish Shadowbolts if not more with trinkets and COS on
7) when he out of EVO back to duties as before.
you should take him on 2nd evo really
Edited, Nov 30th 2007 10:38am by nedytrid
1) lock on curator or one other. +tank
2) all others on sparks make a macro to select them
3) try having a mele class with you
4) Spread out so only one or two get interupts from sparks (they chain damage) so no hugging
5) with boss mods on you will see when evo is going to proc make sure u have trinkets ready for that.
6) last sparks get down ASAP then all nuke Curator a lock with be doing 4-6K ish Shadowbolts if not more with trinkets and COS on
7) when he out of EVO back to duties as before.
you should take him on 2nd evo really
Edited, Nov 30th 2007 10:38am by nedytrid
Huh? Curator = cake.
First make a macro that goes /target astral flares (or w/e), so that you can instantly target them when they appear. Just send a sb their way - your direct damage dpsers should be the ones focusing on them.
Make sure you pop amp curse and your trinkets, then cast CoD so that it lands during the 200% damage phase (bigwigs/bossmods for the timing).
You should hit for 30k or so; if you're doing this in addition to constant dots (nonstop) and sb, you should easily take out 1/3+ of the Curator's hp by yourself.
First make a macro that goes /target astral flares (or w/e), so that you can instantly target them when they appear. Just send a sb their way - your direct damage dpsers should be the ones focusing on them.
Make sure you pop amp curse and your trinkets, then cast CoD so that it lands during the 200% damage phase (bigwigs/bossmods for the timing).
You should hit for 30k or so; if you're doing this in addition to constant dots (nonstop) and sb, you should easily take out 1/3+ of the Curator's hp by yourself.
Don't use SB on sparks. They die too fast. I almost never can get a SB off on them, unless I proc nightfall. Use Searing Pain, since it casts faster and uses less mana.
Also, get deadly boss mods, or some other timer. You want to get off Curse of Doom, amplified if possible, during his evocation phases every time. When you get 23k+ damage in a single hit, from an instant cast that doesn't prevent you from killing sparks, you hit top damage in no time.
Also, get deadly boss mods, or some other timer. You want to get off Curse of Doom, amplified if possible, during his evocation phases every time. When you get 23k+ damage in a single hit, from an instant cast that doesn't prevent you from killing sparks, you hit top damage in no time.
Curator isn't bad at all, Tank and shadow priest on curator full time (spriest is more effective on a single target anyway). I kept CoS corruption and siphon life on curator all the time, except for a minute before evocation when i would put up a curse of doom. I would toss one SB and a searing pain at the sparks and refresh my corruption and siphon life after every second spark.
I took about 80% of the hateful bolts, I think its an HP thing more than a threat thing, with 10 Arcaine resist(gnome racial FTW lol) they hit for 10-15% of my hp and I flat out resisted about 1 in every 5 of them.
Durring Evocation I would trinket, reapply dots and CoS and spam SB until the first spark came back out. Any nightfall proc's went to curator over the sparks because we had no problems killing the sparks fast enough.
My build is IHoT/ruin, my favorite "all purpose" build.
I took about 80% of the hateful bolts, I think its an HP thing more than a threat thing, with 10 Arcaine resist(gnome racial FTW lol) they hit for 10-15% of my hp and I flat out resisted about 1 in every 5 of them.
Durring Evocation I would trinket, reapply dots and CoS and spam SB until the first spark came back out. Any nightfall proc's went to curator over the sparks because we had no problems killing the sparks fast enough.
My build is IHoT/ruin, my favorite "all purpose" build.
curator is of course a dps check. tank will hold curator in the middle while the rest of the raid lines up in an arc in front of curator. make sure your raid all has deadly boss mods installed it will help out ALLOT, my guild has required it to raid for a long time...and i agree, if you raid you SHOULD have this mod. also curator is a bit harder for locks then other classes just because the sparts arnt alive long enough for dots to be much use and so you must rely on direct damage spells like shadowbolt, searing pain, and immolate.
basic lock strategy is this:
create a macro that goes like this
/target Astral Flare
/cast immolate
use it to target the new flare and cast immolate. then follow up with shadow bolts tell it dies, if its low health and a shadow bolt wont hit use searing pain. if the orb is on you then drain life tell it dies...you wont be able to cast a sb anyway because of spell pushback.
at the 4th orb or so (about 60 sec tell evocate) ALL warlocks should put up a curse of doom. this will make them all go of durring evocate hitting for 20k each or more.
then just repeate the first orb step tell he gets to 15%, then he enrages and you just burn him down asap.
its important that all dps be on the flares, your goal is to have it dead before the next one shows up. if you can manage that then your dps is doing fine. right when he evocates he summons a flare so dps needs to down it fast then move on to curator. warlocks & shadow priests can dot curator up before he evocates then dps flare so they are doing some dmg on both targets. when you add the dot damage + cod damage your doing some decent dmg on him each evocate.
basic lock strategy is this:
create a macro that goes like this
/target Astral Flare
/cast immolate
use it to target the new flare and cast immolate. then follow up with shadow bolts tell it dies, if its low health and a shadow bolt wont hit use searing pain. if the orb is on you then drain life tell it dies...you wont be able to cast a sb anyway because of spell pushback.
at the 4th orb or so (about 60 sec tell evocate) ALL warlocks should put up a curse of doom. this will make them all go of durring evocate hitting for 20k each or more.
then just repeate the first orb step tell he gets to 15%, then he enrages and you just burn him down asap.
its important that all dps be on the flares, your goal is to have it dead before the next one shows up. if you can manage that then your dps is doing fine. right when he evocates he summons a flare so dps needs to down it fast then move on to curator. warlocks & shadow priests can dot curator up before he evocates then dps flare so they are doing some dmg on both targets. when you add the dot damage + cod damage your doing some decent dmg on him each evocate.
With 3 locks you guys should be able to get Curator down before the 3rd evocate. My guild has done it with two and downed him in about 4 minutes. Make sure you all hit Curse of Doom 55-50 seconds before Evocate, and have all dps make a /target Astral Flare macro and spam those flares with a fast-casting spell. My guild has the locks use Searing Pain since Shadowbolt is too long of a cast. Mages (I think) are using Scorch.
And everyone should get Deadly Boss Mods/BigWigs so they have a little window that alerts them if they are too close to another person, that way no one gets the arcane bolts from the sparks bouncing off one character and onto others. Makes it much easier on the healers. Curator is the real line of demarcation between the easy fights (Attumen, Moroes, Maiden) and the later Kara fights that take a higher gear level and more strategy.
Our guild had real trouble with Curator at first, and now he goes down easy every time. Your team will get there if you stick to a good strategy and make sure everyone works on their gear.
And everyone should get Deadly Boss Mods/BigWigs so they have a little window that alerts them if they are too close to another person, that way no one gets the arcane bolts from the sparks bouncing off one character and onto others. Makes it much easier on the healers. Curator is the real line of demarcation between the easy fights (Attumen, Moroes, Maiden) and the later Kara fights that take a higher gear level and more strategy.
Our guild had real trouble with Curator at first, and now he goes down easy every time. Your team will get there if you stick to a good strategy and make sure everyone works on their gear.
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Curator goes over a lot easier with some decent melee. Make a point to switch out your casters, except for you of course, with some rogues/dps warriors. Curator is cake at that point. Also, put Curse of Doom up when Curator reaches 50-60% mana. It will tick during evocation at both intervals, depending on which you are more comfortable with.
Edited, Dec 13th 2007 5:29pm by Fulgrot
Edited, Dec 13th 2007 5:29pm by Fulgrot
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Funny, the first time my guild did him me and the other lock were told not to put dots on him till evocate. But I held my tongue as we wiped and wiped and wiped. Silly tank was skurd that we would pull aggro. Oh well, it's just gold right...
Searing pain the sparks. Shadowbolts are too slow. They'll often die somewhere between the start of the cast and just before the bolt hits them. Searing pain is faster and has no travel time. Spam it on the sparks hard.
And get a timer so you can always manage to cast Doom on him so it goes off during Evocate. Just.. be ready to drop some threat on him the first time. I've gotten a 23k doom off, and he started running right at me. Soul Shatter rocks.
And get a timer so you can always manage to cast Doom on him so it goes off during Evocate. Just.. be ready to drop some threat on him the first time. I've gotten a 23k doom off, and he started running right at me. Soul Shatter rocks.
Curator is a very warlock friendly fight. With 3 locks spamming Searing Pain and a mage scorch the sparks should go down in ~6 seconds.
Searing Pain = 1.5 second cast - ~750 damage and 1100 crit.
Times that by 3 and by 3 again with lets say an average of 2 crits = ~750x7 + 1100x2 = 7450 in 5 seconds. scorchx3 = ~600x3 = 1800 (No idea about mages but I think I'm underestimating with this figure).
Total = 9250 damage. Sparks only have about 10k health.
So basically the sparks should be down within 7-8 seconds giving you time to cast a DoT or SB on Curator himself. And that is with only 4 of your dps on the sparks. For Curator we usually have 6 dps (OT dpses on Curator).
Searing Pain = 1.5 second cast - ~750 damage and 1100 crit.
Times that by 3 and by 3 again with lets say an average of 2 crits = ~750x7 + 1100x2 = 7450 in 5 seconds. scorchx3 = ~600x3 = 1800 (No idea about mages but I think I'm underestimating with this figure).
Total = 9250 damage. Sparks only have about 10k health.
So basically the sparks should be down within 7-8 seconds giving you time to cast a DoT or SB on Curator himself. And that is with only 4 of your dps on the sparks. For Curator we usually have 6 dps (OT dpses on Curator).
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