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#1 Nov 29 2007 at 7:17 PM Rating: Decent
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not tanking him, but rather, dpsing the sparks. my team's last kara run we could only get curator to 30%. druid tank was getting more threat on him, so i was the de facto hateful bolt tank. our dps consisted of 3 locks, 1 spriest, and a mage. dps up to curator was superb, but at some point i would see two or three sparks up at any given time. when i came as dps in my first run, a combat rogue (Furtiva) and i would burn the sparks down with the other dps just as another spark would spawn.

any suggestions here? is there anything our locks/sp/mage could do differently? or is it just a poor dps choice for this fight (not enough burst damage)?

i will also post this in the lock forum...
#2 Nov 29 2007 at 10:01 PM Rating: Decent
Sounds to me like they need to focus more on the Orbs and not so much on the boss. Also, with 3 locks, that means there are 3 Curse of Doom's on that guy that should go off while he's in evocation. That is about 70k-90k dmg depending on the gear of the locks. Just call it out a minute or so before he evocates.

DoT the boss, then focus fire on the Orbs...if you don't get them down, you're going to be screwed. Even when Curator Evocates, make sure to down the last orb first or you'll have even more afterward as they come out a lot faster as time goes by.

Other than that, I really don't know what to tell you. Oh, get a lock to get some arcane gear and be the soaker, my friend did that, and he looked like a china man. lol cheers
#3 Nov 30 2007 at 5:36 AM Rating: Good
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OK, here is my recommendations based on what you posted.

Take the druid off MT and put you on there (Assuming your a prot warrior since your posting here). Put your druid in DPS gear and put him/her on spark duty.

Take your Shadow Priest be the soaker, unless this person is off healing, then make a warlock your soaker.

Everyone else DPS on the sparks.

Call out 1 minute for all 3 locks to Curse of Doom, as Pigeonman stated.

When its evoke time, all but the druid should switch to Curator, the druid should drag that last spark to the curator so sweaping strikes, cleave and other ae abilities can hit both Curator and spark.

You have no melee dps besides the druid so if you have trouble with the sparks running around and the druid not able to keep up, bunch up more, you can heal through spark dmg.

Hope this helps.
#4 Nov 30 2007 at 6:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Don't use a hateful bolt tank. Not worth it and the dmg from hateful bolts can be dealt with easily enough.

Remember to tell your casters to dot the boss at all times but direct dmg cast the sparks, they don't live long enough for the duration of their dots to run.

When he's evocating have everyone burn the last spark like normal but have the druid(or any rogues you might have) go straight to curator since his dmg is based on combo points and he needs time to build them.
#5 Nov 30 2007 at 11:47 AM Rating: Decent
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posting real quick on a seminar break...

i don't usually track my tps, but during curator i noticed i would only put out 350-400 tps while not on evocation. is this low? i also noticed the druid was pawning my tps by at least a hundred or so.
#6 Nov 30 2007 at 11:53 AM Rating: Decent
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That is low, though a good druid can still out tps you. It's one of their strong points.

I still say you should just have the druid dps. Hteful bolt tanks aren't needed.
#7 Nov 30 2007 at 12:11 PM Rating: Good
350-400 TPS is extremely low, even for Kara gear. On the other hand I don't recall Curator hitting especially hard, so the Rage might have been an issue.

The problem is you have almost all ranged DPS, and ranged DPS that depends on DoTs in particular. You didn't give us the Locks specs but it's a fair bet at least some of them are affliction. Warlocks tend to do poorly on Curator since they a) Don't have pushback reduction unless they're Destro and b) Rely on DoT's for a fair amount of their damage. Shadow Priests have the same issues, except without any possibility of pushback reduction.

With that said, you shouldn't need them. Put the Rogue, Druid and Mage on one of the adds (make sure he's just Shadow Bolting) and they should die, leave the rest of the DPS on Curator and you should be fine.
#8 Nov 30 2007 at 1:36 PM Rating: Decent
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RPZip wrote:
350-400 TPS is extremely low, even for Kara gear. On the other hand I don't recall Curator hitting especially hard, so the Rage might have been an issue.

The problem is you have almost all ranged DPS, and ranged DPS that depends on DoTs in particular. You didn't give us the Locks specs but it's a fair bet at least some of them are affliction. Warlocks tend to do poorly on Curator since they a) Don't have pushback reduction unless they're Destro and b) Rely on DoT's for a fair amount of their damage. Shadow Priests have the same issues, except without any possibility of pushback reduction.

With that said, you shouldn't need them. Put the Rogue, Druid and Mage on one of the adds (make sure he's just Shadow Bolting) and they should die, leave the rest of the DPS on Curator and you should be fine.


armory is down atm, so i can't link my current build/gear nor the locks' builds/gear. the druid was MT and i was OT, i switched to my dps offhand (guile of khoraazi) for better rage gen so i was actually able to spam shield slam and devastate... revenge occasionally but since i wasn't getting hit much = no use for shield block... my offhand doesn't have a lot of weapon damage so i guess my devastate threat was suboptimal, but i felt that switching to my dps mainhand would've gimped my rage gen.
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