So, as I was talking w/ one of my guildies last, and showing him my brand new shiny s3 gear, this ****** pops out his s3 waraxe. o.O
WTF? How did he get that already? Oh...Blizz doesn't require a rating on the HUNTER SPECIFIC weapon, b/c they insist its purely used for stats. **** YOU BLIZZ.
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It would be like them requiring a personal rating for the thrown weapons.
KTurner wrote:
It would be like them requiring a personal rating for the thrown weapons.
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34014
vs.
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33765
Yes...b/c the stats are comparible...amirite?
Think about it from a hunters perspective. Their bow costs 3750, same as a warriors 2h. Pretty sure it also requires personal rating. Not fair to charge them 3750 for their main weapon, and then another 3750 for what is essentially just a stat stick.
I approve of it.
I approve of it.
Not only that, but i believe the bow has the same stats as our thrown weapons, so it works out to be equal in the end whatever way you look at it.
It's been beaten to death. It's a hell of a lot of stats for cheap Arena Points and no rating, and they get a hell of a lot more use out of it than anyone gets out of Throwing Weapons or Wands, but at this point just let it go. It's not going to change anything.
grrr im pissed off about it
not the no rating, not that at all.. stat stick shouldnt need rating
but how about INSTEAD give em 600 pt one-hand weapons, that total the current stat stick
when i can lock him into melee range and he critted me 3 times in a row, MELEE, for 1300+ i almost broke my keyboard right over my knee
its ********* stats i agree with, but our throwing weapon doesnt hit much harder then a 70 blue one
wanna fix the hunter stat stick issue? how bout 2.2 ****** speed instead? the polearm speed??
no ridiculous white cris, no complaints.... its just frustrating lol
not the no rating, not that at all.. stat stick shouldnt need rating
but how about INSTEAD give em 600 pt one-hand weapons, that total the current stat stick
when i can lock him into melee range and he critted me 3 times in a row, MELEE, for 1300+ i almost broke my keyboard right over my knee
its ********* stats i agree with, but our throwing weapon doesnt hit much harder then a 70 blue one
wanna fix the hunter stat stick issue? how bout 2.2 ****** speed instead? the polearm speed??
no ridiculous white cris, no complaints.... its just frustrating lol
crazeecracker wrote:
Not only that, but i believe the bow has the same stats as our thrown weapons, so it works out to be equal in the end whatever way you look at it.
I linked both, take a look again.
I'm sure it has RP, and the points given are valid. They should've amended it to where it at least required SOME rating, or boosted the points on it. It was a just a rant though, and I expected the responses as such.
I would just like to reiterate though...it's BS, lol.
Edited, Nov 29th 2007 11:44am by Salwrathis
Salwrathis wrote:
crazeecracker wrote:
Not only that, but i believe the bow has the same stats as our thrown weapons, so it works out to be equal in the end whatever way you look at it.
I linked both, take a look again.
I'm sure it has RP, and the points given are valid. They should've amended it to where it at least required SOME rating, or boosted the points on it. It was a just a rant though, and I expected the responses as such though.
I would just like to reiterate though...it's BS, lol.
you linked the axe and thrown weapon... he said bow.
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33006
Ok, if you're going to compare our ranged to their ranged, then you should compare our MH/OH to their Hunter specific weapon(which I dont think you should be comparing either, since of prices and rating requirements, but nonetheless).
Hunter's Waraxe
+62 Stam
Equip: Improves hit rating by 15 (0.95% @ L70).
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 46 (2.08% @ L70).
Equip: Improves your resilience rating by 33 (0.84% @ L70).
Equip: Increases attack power by 92.
Equip: Your attacks ignore 98 of your opponent's armor.
(I'm using the maces for example, but all s3 weapons have same stats, just different damage ranges)
Mainhand
+30 Stamina
Equip: Improves hit rating by 8 (0.51% @ L70).
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 21 (0.95% @ L70).
Equip: Improves your resilience rating by 12 (0.3% @ L70).
Equip: Increases attack power by 34.
Equip: Your attacks ignore 49 of your opponent's armor.
Offhand
+30 Stamina
Equip: Improves hit rating by 8 (0.51% @ L70).
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 21 (0.95% @ L70).
Equip: Improves your resilience rating by 12 (0.3% @ L70).
Equip: Increases attack power by 34.
Equip: Your attacks ignore 49 of your opponent's armor.
I'm not going to break it down Barney-style for you, since I'm assuming most of you can do some simple math. We lose a few stam, a few crit rating, 9 resilience, and about 30 AP while gaining 1 hit rating.
What I am saying, is that we have to attain, AND maintain 1850 to keep those weapons and stats, while they have to maintain 1850 to keep their ranged, when in comparison the stats are not that astounding.
Edited, Nov 29th 2007 1:32pm by Salwrathis
Hunter's Waraxe
+62 Stam
Equip: Improves hit rating by 15 (0.95% @ L70).
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 46 (2.08% @ L70).
Equip: Improves your resilience rating by 33 (0.84% @ L70).
Equip: Increases attack power by 92.
Equip: Your attacks ignore 98 of your opponent's armor.
(I'm using the maces for example, but all s3 weapons have same stats, just different damage ranges)
Mainhand
+30 Stamina
Equip: Improves hit rating by 8 (0.51% @ L70).
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 21 (0.95% @ L70).
Equip: Improves your resilience rating by 12 (0.3% @ L70).
Equip: Increases attack power by 34.
Equip: Your attacks ignore 49 of your opponent's armor.
Offhand
+30 Stamina
Equip: Improves hit rating by 8 (0.51% @ L70).
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 21 (0.95% @ L70).
Equip: Improves your resilience rating by 12 (0.3% @ L70).
Equip: Increases attack power by 34.
Equip: Your attacks ignore 49 of your opponent's armor.
I'm not going to break it down Barney-style for you, since I'm assuming most of you can do some simple math. We lose a few stam, a few crit rating, 9 resilience, and about 30 AP while gaining 1 hit rating.
What I am saying, is that we have to attain, AND maintain 1850 to keep those weapons and stats, while they have to maintain 1850 to keep their ranged, when in comparison the stats are not that astounding.
Edited, Nov 29th 2007 1:32pm by Salwrathis
Quote:
What I am saying, is that we have to attain, AND maintain 1850 to keep those weapons and stats, while they have to maintain 1850 to keep their ranged, when in comparison the stats are not that astounding.
blizz SAID you only need rating to BUY, not to use
so about that whole argument.... umm ya...
the PROPER argument is their 2H has more usage for no rating then our throw or a mages wand
that was the big to-do
cuz whether they wann admit it or not, 138dps 3.6 speed can kill a rogue in a clutch situation
a 1-whatever-hundred dps wand will not
wands hit for a few hundred, maybe, at best
that 2h can crit upwards of 1400
see the problem? **** the stats on the damn thing.... most people could care less
its they get more bang out of their 'stat-stick' then we do, but yet both are un-rated weapons
im sure it wouildnt even cause a fuss if the thing was 2.2 like the painsaw, since lets face it, over 7k points for a main weapon and stats on the side is really lame
even for hunters lol
I wonder what my DT has crit for...
KTurner wrote:
I wonder what my DT has crit for...
SURELY NOT 1400!!!!
I actually think my max I got was in the 1600 range.
umm alright
but my xavian steillo has dt crit for a good 1400 or so
going up to s3 throw wouldnt add much to it
welfare hunters going from crystalforged waraxe or legacy or soemthing of the sort to s3 stat stick, thats a good jump lol
and their white melee when you are in their face dun require anything to use, dt for big crits = 5 cp
O YA!! /bowflex
Edited, Nov 29th 2007 3:20pm by mongoosexcore
but my xavian steillo has dt crit for a good 1400 or so
going up to s3 throw wouldnt add much to it
welfare hunters going from crystalforged waraxe or legacy or soemthing of the sort to s3 stat stick, thats a good jump lol
and their white melee when you are in their face dun require anything to use, dt for big crits = 5 cp
O YA!! /bowflex
Edited, Nov 29th 2007 3:20pm by mongoosexcore
QQ thread. Destroy.
DT dmg doesn't depend on the weapon iirc
now that we've ruined all the real complaints and all that is left is nitpicking over a pretty dumb issue...
Quote:
QQ thread. Destroy.
MYteddy wrote:
KTurner wrote:
I wonder what my DT has crit for...
SURELY NOT 1400!!!!
I actually think my max I got was in the 1600 range.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBtpyeLxVkI&feature=related
That link was full of a great deal of win for the first 12 seconds lol
Rate up for brightening my day...its been ****** at work.
Edited, Nov 29th 2007 4:30pm by shadowgryph
Rate up for brightening my day...its been ****** at work.
Edited, Nov 29th 2007 4:30pm by shadowgryph
Quote:
DT dmg doesn't depend on the weapon iirc
its throwdmg +extra per cp
and its not so much im QQ'ing, im just saying thats the big problem with it imo, i still kill em so its all cres hehe
Edited, Nov 29th 2007 4:25pm by mongoosexcore
Salwrathis wrote:
MYteddy wrote:
KTurner wrote:
I wonder what my DT has crit for...
SURELY NOT 1400!!!!
I actually think my max I got was in the 1600 range.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBtpyeLxVkI&feature=related
haha, i knew what that was going to be before I even clicked it.
lol that vid is so funny XD
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