If Bliz made a ranger class...Follow

Not saying it would work, but if they wanted to make one then a new hero class could be a ranger... but with a much more epic name.

It's hard to say. I tend to try and steer clear of Huntards wherever I see them. I was running through Blasted Lands a couple of weeks ago and noticed a Hunter of to the side in the midst of a fight gone wrong. They had two mobs on them, they were almost dead, their pet was almost dead, and they were standing in the middle of things trying to melee their way to a win. Since they had already tapped both mobs, I opted to lend a hand and when it was over I sent them a /w politely suggesting that in situations like that, they use their pet to allow them to get to range so they can do more damage and end the fight faster. Their response suggested to me that they had never thought of that.

I don't want to label it "stupidity". Not everyone reads forums. If you look at the ability progression for Hunters, it's not hard to see why an otherwise bright person might think that Hunters are intended for melee as much as (if not more than) ranged combat. If you exclude the most telling indicators (ie. the vast majority of our talents/"spells" are for ranged combat), you see that we get mail armor and dual wielding as training options. Rogues are melee and they don't get mail. Warriors and Rogues are melee and they both get dual wielding. So rather than apply a shaming label, let's just call them ignorant.

Never underestimate the ignorance of the general public.

I honestly believe that the main reasons Huntards stand out is because it's so easy to spot a Huntard. It's not so easy to spot a Warlock who doesn't know wtf they are doing unless you've already leveled a Warlock. Same goes for a lot of other classes. That's not to say that you never notice when you see another class not being played well, but once you've seen how a good Hunter plays and the next party includes a Hunter in SL making frequent use of their dual swords with Beastslayer/Striking enchants, it sticks out like a sore thumb.

(Tangent: ffs if you're going to be a melee Huntard, don't make your weapons glow. It's bad enough I know you're doing it...I don't need a neon reminder.)

Anywhoo...long story short...no. I don't think a ranged/melee hybrid would reduce the number of Huntards. I just think you'd have a lot of ignorant ranged/melee hybrids embarassing themselves right next to the Huntard.

QFT. Absolutly on the ball. Rate up from me. I would not be able to tell if a warlock completly F-ed up as Ive never played one. But, everyone knows the complete basics of every class. (excpet for huntard or other class equivilants.) I would know that Warlock =/= melee, but I'd have no clue as to whether to use one spell or the other or never use one of them at all. Which is why we stick out. Our combat is so basic. Stand back, shoot while pet attacks, wait till dead. Repeat. Drink. Repeat. The only thing that becomes slightly complicated is shot rotations and proper use of talents. But even that all but the worst can come up with basic forms of them.

It seems starting WoW is kinda like starting life, you can learn more in the first years/levels of your life than you do in the rest of you life/wow life. Maybe the huntards had no one to guide them, help them or just completly soloed everything and never grouped with others (it can happen.) If this is true, they maybe thought that because they had to melee for the first sections of their character (before they got their pet) and they thought that a hunter meleed.

So to your question Skribs, it could go both ways. many of them would migrate there, slightly restoring some of our reputaion, but some may presume that both classes can do both. And we have pets as well! It comes down to how people will look at it.

To be fair, it would actually be something more like:
Paladin - Mountain King
Hunter - Ranger
Mage - Archmage
Warlock - Bloodmage
Warrior - Blademaster (for Horde), Spellbreaker
Rogue - Assassin or Spymaster
Shaman - Geomancer or Farseer
Druid - Of the Talon, of the Claw, Warden, Sentinel, etc etc
Priest - Acolyte, Healer, Priestess of the Moon

Just trying to keep with the lore :D

Wouldn't the Priest more likely turn into a Monk than a Druid?

Well, there's a difference between someone speccing marksman in raids, and someone speccing melee in raids...the marksman may not be optimal, but it'll be within a few percent of the DPS he could have done with BM or the group help he would have been with SV. On the other hand, a melee hunter will drop his DPS by a lot (what were the estimates in the other threads? Like 40% or something?).

And while people do want to have fun, a lot of that fun comes from accomplishment and doing the most we can (at least for a lot of people). So what is perfectly efficient becomes important, especially when the forums are here so a lot of people can come and ask "what is teh best spec?"


Could be anybody...probably was the warriors. I said something that would probably **** them off lol (I suggested to someone asking for tanking tips that he not bring DPS that can't CC into the harder instances, which includes ignoring DPS warriors...). But there's lots of people I could have pissed off, it's just my personality.

Edited, Nov 28th 2007 10:19am by skribs

Paladin - Crusader, Avenger
Hunter - Ranger, Dead Eye, Sharp Shooter
Mage - Battlemage, Archmage, Arcanist, Spellblade
Warlock - Necromancer, Sorcerer
Warrior - Berserker, Gladiator, Viking (thumbs up), War Monger, Knight
Rogue - Deulist, Assasin, Thief, Spy, Smuggler, Swashbuckler (pirate class), ninja
Shaman - Geomancer, Farseer, Earth Whisperer
Druid - Monk (in the D&D sense), of the Talon, of the Claw, Dreamer
Priest - Cleric, ummmm i dunno

Dwarf - Mountain king, Dwarven Defender
Human - Hero
Night Elf - Demon Hunter, Warden
Bloof Elf - Spell Breaker, Blood Mage
Orc - Battlemaster, Raider
Troll - Berserker, Shadow Hunter, Voodoo Priest
Tauren - Brave, Spirit Walker
Gnome - Tinkerer, Thief
Draeni - Guardian, Protector, Watcher, Dark Slayer, Harbinger
Undead - Death Knight, Lich, Dark Ranger

A ranger class would, to me anyway, seem to be just a regular class, like warrior or druid. For a hybrid DPS/Ranged class, it would have to be a Demon Hunter, Ranger just sounds too normal.

yes but ranged powers arent exactly in demonhunter lore.

They jump ito battle and start tearing stuff apart.