So like about Heroics damage....Follow

Ok, I strongly feel I was ready for Heroics. We cleared H.UB, and H.Crypts... but then I get to the H.Ramps (where a killer tanking mace is) , and I just can't do it.

Here's what happened. I pulled the 1st two mobs. I had one marked for sheep and 1 for DPS. Set up was 2 hunters, 1 mage, 1 priest (healer), and me. Well the mage 'moved his sheep button and could not find it'. So I'm trying to tank a mear 2 mobs. I die. Our healer next, then people run out of the instance.

The next time we go to kill the one guy in front of the bridge, well the hunter's pet was too far, and aggro'd the PAT. I go to pick him up... same story, I die not instantly, but fast enough. I even took a second to mark the PAT for CC (as if I really needed to in a Heroic)

After that our healer (a guildie) left the group. I whispered if it was my fault, he said 'no... not at all, our CC was not doing their jobs'.

Ummm... is that normal?? I'm well over 495 def, 12k hp, I've worked for a long time on my tanking gear, and still working on as always.

It just seems like I take sooo much damage. I relize that this is Heroics, and they hit harder. In normals I can tank 3+ mobs at a time with very little problems... in heroics if I get 2 on me it's good night Irene.

Again... is that normal? I thought my evasion was good enough (for now). Here's my linky, again just in case Gyffordsox Armory

I've been running a lot of Tempest Keep stuff... I really want that Epic Shield from there too (that'll help a bit I think).

Edited, Nov 26th 2007 10:35am by GYFFORD

Make sure the hunters are pros with traps, make sure the mage it good wiht sheeping and controling aggro, make sure the healer is a pro. Make sure that no traps or sheeps get broken. Try to pull smaller groups and kill one mob at a time. Trap and sheep all mobs that you can as well. You should be good from there. This might not be any help to you but I felt that I had to give some input.

Ah so it seems like I'm doing normal. Thank God. I just got into a good endgame guild that does a lot of Kara and stuff. They just downed curator so they know what's going on.

Anywho, my 1st Kara run is coming up Wednesday... and I was having doubts lol.

Thanks for the support on that. It's hard to really get a feel for how well you're taking damage, since usually there are not two tanks in the same party lol.

Sounds like I'm semi-on track.

Awesome! Thanks Jimpadan for the 'gear to look forward to' breakdown, that helps a lot to know what bosses will help me.

What if I would not get those, and the guild wants to continue? Do I go? My luck on Instance to Warrior drop ratio has just been in the toilet. I can't buy a drop. Devilshark cape I did get very lucky one shotted.

Like I said in hopes of getting my epic shield from Shatt, I've been running a lot of Arc and bot. I'm still hoping to get that chest item with the +50 Hp on it. There's also another trinket that I was trying to get... I'll have to look at my guide I'm following, I'm pretty sure it's from one of those.

Edited, Nov 26th 2007 12:30pm by GYFFORD

It's funny I was looking at that last night. I passed on getting it. I have the rep, but the stats IMO were not what I needed (I needed stamina more to reach the 12k).

Actually since I'm at work... let me look both of those up again:
[wowitem=29127]Vindicator's Hauberk[/wowitem]

Or

[wowitem=25819]Breastplate of the Warbringer[/wowitem]
With the Taunt and Hit rating... I figure it would help a bit more than dodge? If it's a definate upgrade I'll buy it tonight... but if I get that I will not have the 12k unbuffed I'm needed...even with armor kits, and top end gems, enchants... and the RACIAL +HP%... I still can't get there lol.

The jadeskull breastplate from mech is what I'm looking to get. I got to remember Mech.. not Bot. I ran Bot 2 times last night lol. The +50 stamina on that is nice.


Edited, Nov 26th 2007 12:57pm by GYFFORD

Taunt gets used so rarely with a good group and then it only has a 5% chance to be resisted anyways. The hit rating is more of a help in TPS than anything.

Your HP will steadily go up the further you progress so if your just missing the 12k mark by a little I wouldn't worry too much about it. Good rule of thumb for me has been that dodge rating is not something to be passed up.

Also when gemming, unless your going to be shy of the 490 defense mark socket everything with +12 stm gems. I haven't come across any set bonuses that are worth trying to socket for.

heroic ramparts....where everything hits like a boss, and the bosses hit like...bigger bosses. that's all i can add :(

Bring a rogue in just to open the door lol.

Me and my guildies wrecked heroic SH in 49 minutes the other day. Man that was a blast. Over geared prot pally plus new fury AE potential = full of win for that place.

Party make up was me, prot pally, assassination (poison) rogue, feral druid, and holy pally.

I ended up dying on the pulls with the two champions that pretty much stun lock the tank.

It's not really stretching it. You only need to get around 8k completely unbuffed. Throw in imp fort and kings and your at 10k. Salv is a moot point in that fight so no worries about not having it in place of kings.

If your ready to take down curator most everyone will have 8k hp anyways, save for maybe the priests or resto druids.

Ok, now I'm sitting at 16._ parry%, and 16._ dodge%. Ran BM twice last night and got Revered... which brings a killer head enchant of dodge/defense. I also got the CoT legs... with the right gems and the clefthoof armor kit it really bosted my HP a lot.

Tried getting that stupid chest from Mech.. did not drop it :/ Kara prep time is running out... Wednesday I think. 12,108 unbuffed HP, 32-33% evasion now. Getting there lol

Edited, Nov 27th 2007 4:42pm by GYFFORD

Your kara ready bro. Depending on group make up and buffs I wouldn't put it past you to tank curator. Little tip, try to stock pile rage right before he evocates. He won't be hitting you during this time so having ample supply will really help you out. Nothing like getting 3k SS crits and devastate crits for over 1500 (provided you have a slow weapon for devastate).


Oh and grats on KoT revered, that opens up great gear/enchants for you.