Hydross respeccFollow

Hi guys

Probably a daft question (for which, many apologies) but ....

My guild is just about to start work on Hydross in Serpentshrine Cavern. My mage - Tiddly - is a frostie.

Is there any way I can get over the full (and possibly weekly) respecc just to help take down this boss? Of course, the fire mages will have the same issue against Al'ar in Tempest Keep. It's gonna get expensive, even more so for those that have crafted their spellfire or frozen shadoweave sets.

Or should I just accept the inevitable?

Any advice would be helpful

Thank you in advance

Tiddly
(Draenor)

He's soloable - just send one of your locks on him and you are fine (he needs 160 mins though >_>)

I would personally just go for spellfire tailoring. Although you may not be used to raiding as fire, the increase in dps will be noticeable (depending on the fight I can hit around 950-1000 dps, sometimes more, some less depending on movement).

I personally made both sets (frost first, because I didn't want to go to fire, but I have since changed my ways). I will probably respec to arcane for the Al'ar fight mainly because I don't want to spend the 200g (both respecs) to just do that boss.

Edited, Nov 26th 2007 10:10am by Anobix

Fixed that for ya.

That is my point.

Also, if you don't run out of mana, are you doing all you can to help? I have raided frost, arc/frost, fire, arc/fire and arc, so I have a bit of experience in that area and I do seem to recall using lots of mana. In an ideal fight you have 0 mana left at the end of the fight when the boss dies and you have used all of your damage enhancing abilities and such. Also, I thought I saw a thread here a while back that talked about the mana efficiency of fire and how it was much better than previously touted.

You know what? Hydross is ice 50% of the time and poison the other 50%. When he is ice you cannot hurt him with frostbolt. Go farm primal water in Skettis with your frostbolt and tell me how that goes ok? I myself sometimes forget and use fireball on fire elementals every now and then. I now tend to keep away from those areas unless required. Sure KT could have been a little more gentle about this but your statement is more related to the fact you do not know that Hydross is not friendly for frost mages. Whether or not frost mages are optimal for PvE is another thing all together. Besides, most mages know that 40/0/21 is a bandaid build for lesser geared mages. The moment you are capable of getting 800spell damage on your own without the bandaid talents, the other builts simply scale better. Empowered Frostbolt/Fireball > Mind mastery. You can even use Lhivera's (sp) spreadsheet to fudge your numbers. That spreadsheet proves my statement. 40 thousand mages on the o-boards at the very least respects Lhivera's calculator, you can chose not to believe me go and see for yourself.

a 17/0/44 build with 900dmg will out right out damage you per bolt. I have around 900+ dmg and my fireballs goes at the rate of 2k per fireball going to 2.5k per fireball on fully scorched targets. 3.5k crits and 4.5k crits to even 5k when on bosses at 20%. the damage is sick, the aggro is sick (fire=more damage=more threat). I hit threat cap very easily in Kara and just last night felt it was hard to do anything higher than 660dps without dying. Even then any small lapse meant deaths for me and the other firemage. The both of us got laughed at for that but we did end up sandwiching a combat rogue in dps. The other guy topped, rogue 2nd then me.

I think if we go for A'lar, I would respec arcane and go ABx3, scorch, clearcast AM. My guild is putting her/him quite low on the list for now

if the fire mages are pulling aggro then they are just bad mages, it doesn't matter what spec they are if they cannot read a simple table on omen/ktm to stay below the tank. I almost never pull aggro from a tank (I haven't for months) but end up in the top 5-ish in the raid.

my webstats I should be doing more since I won't be using Blizzard and will instead use AE to AoE down mobs.

Eh flamestrike is okay, but by the time I get the cast off most of the mobs will probably be dead from the rest of the AoE.

Its almost always possible to cast spells from the opposite school without a gigantic hit in damage... depends upon how you are geared... you can always carry some crazy +fire/ice/arcane specific damage gear which would normally be subpar to swap out a piece of two to get that extra +150 or so into the opposite school of magic. True your going to lose some of your talent benefits that are directly related to your main spec choice but alot of them are still handy.. ice barrier, ice block etc are still useful in a "fire" fight... and personally I would recommend leaning on some of the mana intensive arcane spells when you come across a fight where your fire/ice is less useful. You can majorly abuse arcane blast at a much faster mana depletion rate to accumulate decent damage... (or even arcane missiles) just count on having to remana a couple times during the fight... couple gem pops, pot pop, meditation... get a spirit buff going first etc.. not insurmountable.

Was amused by the people who said they don't fight elementals of the opposite school... you have the ice/fire shield that makes any fight against elementals that use that school a snap no matter how your speced.....