Any tips on how to beat them? I'm at level 44 and keep getting owned by hunters, especially bm's.
Maybe i just suck.
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I'd suggest getting out of line of sight for the hunter and then you just have to survive the initial beast attack. I'd drop shadowform and shield heal through that while SW:P on the cat and still cast on it when you can. Soon you will outlast its enrage/frenzy thing and it will be vulnerable to your fear. Then you can try to finish it off again. Taking out the pet of a BM hunter takes out a lot of their damage. If you can get past that point, you have a good chance of beating the hunter. If you can't get away from the hunter's attacks during this time with moving around, you will likely go down fast.
I always find it fun to run up within melee range of them. A hunter with a sword is generally less lethal than one 40 yards away. That may just be me though
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huntards are a pain, as usually they see you on their gaydar as your busy battling mobs, and they run up behind you and send in the kittah. i think the only tactic that will ever work is getting the kittah off you, if you mis time your scream your dead.
any reasonable BM hunter can just set his pet on you and you have a hard fight to just kill it.
any reasonable BM hunter can just set his pet on you and you have a hard fight to just kill it.
Forget about the pet, go after the hunter. Dead hunter = dead pet. Dead pet means you still have to deal with the hunter. Heal through red kitty phase, then use psychic scream. As I'm running toward them SW:P vampiric embrace, shield, mind blast, mind flay the crap outta the hunter. Heal as needed. I never go anywhere without pots/bandages.
It's not easy, but just keep dueling ppl your level or a little higher.
Just my 2 coppers worth.
It's not easy, but just keep dueling ppl your level or a little higher.
Just my 2 coppers worth.
If you're an undead priest, it also helps to throw Devouring Plague on the hunter as well as SW:P and VT. If you can get off your dots and then shift out of shadowform to heal through the red kitty, all the better. Of course, at level 44 you don't have VT, but bygones.
I do agree though that killing the hunter first is the better practice. That new Aimed Shot SUCKS, and will be around long after Kommunist Kitteh calms down.
I do agree though that killing the hunter first is the better practice. That new Aimed Shot SUCKS, and will be around long after Kommunist Kitteh calms down.
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Posted: Dec 09 2007 at 12:28 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Pff at your lvl, hunters are easy as hell -_-
Thank you for that constructive post! Here's a rate-down for you time and effort.
Edit: Okay, his post is sub-default and therefore probably hidden to most people, where it belongs.
Edited, Dec 11th 2007 1:20pm by lsfreak
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Edited, Dec 11th 2007 1:20pm by lsfreak
At your level...DOT the Hunter up, and stay out of his range. Also DOT the pet up too if you can. Bestial Wrath is tough to deal with, but most hunters do not buff up Shadow Protection on their pets, so a quick SW: pain, and VE would be hurting the pet a lot, while giving you some health back. Rush the hunter (with a bubble up), and fear him before he can turn red (they cannot Bestial Wrath while feared). While he is feared, Mind Blast & flay him until he drops.
If he activated Bestial Wrath before you reach him, Try to keep a bubble up, and heal through the 18 seconds. After it wears off (if you dropped dots on the pet earlier), it should just be you and the hunter.
Fear him, and kill him on the go.
If he activated Bestial Wrath before you reach him, Try to keep a bubble up, and heal through the 18 seconds. After it wears off (if you dropped dots on the pet earlier), it should just be you and the hunter.
Fear him, and kill him on the go.
Rushing towards a hunter doesn't work as well as it used to: there's no deadzone to exploit. If you want to learn PVP skills that will help you beyond your current level, learn to LOS (line of sight) the hunter's shots.
Basically, find a piece of scenery that will break the hunter's view of you and learn to weave around it as necessary to throw your DoT(s) on him. A healing priest would duck away to heal and step out to apply DPS or Manaburn; as a shadowpriest, you'll duck away to DPS their pet, healing yourself as a result thanks to VE, or fear it and bandage yourself. Meanwhile you'll be stepping out to refresh your SWP on the hunter.
At level 59 you won't need to do anything so complicated--the Outland stamina/+spell damage gear you get around then will let you annihilate even the best geared hunters of that level. But learning LOS techniques will serve you all the way to the arena.
Basically, find a piece of scenery that will break the hunter's view of you and learn to weave around it as necessary to throw your DoT(s) on him. A healing priest would duck away to heal and step out to apply DPS or Manaburn; as a shadowpriest, you'll duck away to DPS their pet, healing yourself as a result thanks to VE, or fear it and bandage yourself. Meanwhile you'll be stepping out to refresh your SWP on the hunter.
At level 59 you won't need to do anything so complicated--the Outland stamina/+spell damage gear you get around then will let you annihilate even the best geared hunters of that level. But learning LOS techniques will serve you all the way to the arena.
Thanks very much for the tips, folks. I think LoS is probably the thing I most need to learn to better take advantage of.
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Im a shadow priest (forsaken) and i usualy hit the hunter with 3 dots, the pet with 2, drop SF, bubble, heal, reenter SF, hit em with mindblast, fear their pet if it starts to inturrupt casting, then mindflay spam em with my bubble on, then hit em with SW;D and that usualy drops em. if they try to range hop back off behind something and make em come closer. Then u hit em with all u got.
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Good advices all and all.. You can hardly apply the LOS technique theese days.. outdoor PvP will mostly surprise you with the hunter shooting through "hills" and "trees" as there is fcuked up texturing in wow. Then most BG's are "open space" exept some arenas where there are some obsticles (thanks god)
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The running to the hunter is kinda situational too now. The dead zone is gone. So either they meelee or shoot. Still the meelee is less dmg. There is one nice trick for classes who have dots.. dot him up and run to him.. then through him.
He can ofc shoot only targets in front of him :) He needs to reposition to shoot but your dots are still ticking in meantime.
On the other hand every hunter with a brain in head will use concussion shot (50% move speed) as you approach. And just kite you around. Then they can also wing clip you (50% move speed) and move away from you. To shoot you again. Which you almost have no countermeasure against. Just 1. fear 2. trinket
The ultimate countermeasure to all is priests ability to heal himself.. so do it :D Dot up, fear, do some dmg, bubble, heal up, repeat as nescessary. The hunter only down side is that they tend to not to have so much HP as other classes. However there can be hunters with 12K hp.. soo :D
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Hunters are the casters bane.. with my hunter I can kill evey caster without problem. (yes warlocks too)
Good advices all and all.. You can hardly apply the LOS technique theese days.. outdoor PvP will mostly surprise you with the hunter shooting through "hills" and "trees" as there is fcuked up texturing in wow. Then most BG's are "open space" exept some arenas where there are some obsticles (thanks god)
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+advice
The running to the hunter is kinda situational too now. The dead zone is gone. So either they meelee or shoot. Still the meelee is less dmg. There is one nice trick for classes who have dots.. dot him up and run to him.. then through him.
He can ofc shoot only targets in front of him :) He needs to reposition to shoot but your dots are still ticking in meantime.
On the other hand every hunter with a brain in head will use concussion shot (50% move speed) as you approach. And just kite you around. Then they can also wing clip you (50% move speed) and move away from you. To shoot you again. Which you almost have no countermeasure against. Just 1. fear 2. trinket
The ultimate countermeasure to all is priests ability to heal himself.. so do it :D Dot up, fear, do some dmg, bubble, heal up, repeat as nescessary. The hunter only down side is that they tend to not to have so much HP as other classes. However there can be hunters with 12K hp.. soo :D
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Hunters are the casters bane.. with my hunter I can kill evey caster without problem. (yes warlocks too)
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Then most BG's are "open space" exept some arenas where there are some obsticles (thanks god)
I have to disagree. WSG has plenty of sight breaks in the two bases and at the four huts. AB has plenty of sight breaks where it counts, around the flags. EotS has plenty of sight breaks where it counts, around the flags. The only BG situation you'll have trouble finding a sight break is during a flag run in WSG or EotS.
Arpstar wrote:
Hunters are the casters bane.. with my hunter I can kill evey caster without problem. (yes warlocks too)
O rly?
Given equal gear and some skill on both sides, frost mages destroy hunters--the removal of the dead zone hasn't changed that, although it's no longer as one-sided a fight. Methinks you exaggerate.
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However there can be hunters with 12K hp.. soo :D
That really doesn't mean much when a well-geared PvP priest will have the same. Hell, I have 10.5k in my "PvP" set, which is half raiding gear. And unlike your hunter, as you said, I can heal.
Hunters are tough at your level. At higher levels, I ignore the pet and hit the hunter hard - Pain, VT, Plague, Blast. Keep shield and Inner Fire on yourself. If Martyrdom procs, that can be a great time to get off a Gheal, but be careful of Silencing Shot, Intimidation, and Scatter Shot. I always save the fear for the hunter himself, usually run straight at him while applying DoT's, and hopefully at the same time getting into a good position to LoS him if I get stunned/concussed (which unfortunately is very hard outside of arena).
emmitsvenson - o rly? how a frost mage can kill something that cant be frozen? you tell me, we all know that BM is the PvP specc theese days.
For the BG's where do you live man.. your basically saying.. your safe while you stand around the flags? That is not how BG's work imo. You have to get to the place 1st too you know.
Every smart hunter will slow you down to lower your LOS movement. At 50% speed its hard to get around corners you know.
For the BG's where do you live man.. your basically saying.. your safe while you stand around the flags? That is not how BG's work imo. You have to get to the place 1st too you know.
Every smart hunter will slow you down to lower your LOS movement. At 50% speed its hard to get around corners you know.
Arpstar wrote:
emmitsvenson - o rly? how a frost mage can kill something that cant be frozen? you tell me, we all know that BM is the PvP spec these days.
imo a frost mage will freeze u at the begining... and if u use trinket then he can summon elemental to freeze u again... at this point if he the hunter uses TBW he can just iceblock and w8 for most of your "red period" to pass.. then he can hit cold snap and resummon elemental (if needed) or proceed to freeze icelance u after...
and i know they have a lot of other tricks.
The problem i see against hunters is the 6 sec dispel they have (arcane shot) which will eventually purge all your buffs.. and sometimes your shield when u apply it.. that sux .
Edited, Dec 12th 2007 10:36am by Tehnomage
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