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#1 Nov 21 2007 at 12:33 AM Rating: Decent
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If this can be found anywhere else, please tell me. I read the FAQ and didnt find the answers, but just say so if they are in there or somewhere else on wowwiki.

For leveling (quest grinding), which weapon buff is best? (Rockbiter, etc.)

Will my weapon-buffing totems overwrite rockbiters, sharpening stones, or +spell dmg oils?

I'm assuming a regular grind on similar-level mobs would go something like:
Lightning Shield, Buffing Totems, Lightning Bolt, Frost Shock, Lightning Bolt, Fire Totem, melee/fire shock till dead. Do i throw up lightning shields as they drop or just wait till the next fight?

Thanks for any input or redirection!

EDIT: I'm assuming i'm looking (for enhc) at stats:
Strength > Stamina > Agility > Int = Spr, but that i dont rule any of them out completely. This is pre-dual wield.

Edited, Nov 21st 2007 3:41am by DukyFrodo
#2 Nov 21 2007 at 3:25 AM Rating: Decent
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For leveling (quest grinding), which weapon buff is best? (Rockbiter, etc.)


once you get it generally WF.

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Will my weapon-buffing totems overwrite rockbiters, sharpening stones, or +spell dmg oils?


No they wont overwrite your weapon buffs, but i wanted to add, sharpening stones and oil do not stack with weapon buffs.

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I'm assuming a regular grind on similar-level mobs would go something like:
Lightning Shield, Buffing Totems, Lightning Bolt, Frost Shock, Lightning Bolt, Fire Totem, melee/fire shock till dead. Do i throw up lightning shields as they drop or just wait till the next fight?


thats a little bit over board for solo grinding, Generally LB, LB, melee is fine, for elites you will probably want to drop totem LB, LB, Flame Shock, melee and reapply flame shock when necessary

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EDIT: I'm assuming i'm looking (for enhc) at stats:
Strength > Stamina > Agility > Int = Spr, but that i dont rule any of them out completely. This is pre-dual wield.


I assume the + spirit was a typo spirit is no good for us I would say STR and STAM are your main stats followed by AGL and finally INT when you can is nice but not necessary.

#3 Nov 21 2007 at 3:59 AM Rating: Decent
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SunSoarer is currently working on a new FAQ, as ours sucks right now.

Give him some time, but he'll pull through, I'm sure. ;)

And www.wowwiki.com should have pretty much all you need here...once you get to level 40 or 50, leveling is real nice as enhance.
#4 Nov 21 2007 at 9:28 AM Rating: Decent
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oh well thanks GW really make me feel special and all lol, I guess it doesn't count unless he wrote it ok =P
#5 Nov 21 2007 at 11:21 AM Rating: Good
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DukyFrodo wrote:
For leveling (quest grinding), which weapon buff is best? (Rockbiter, etc.)

Enhancement: Rockbiter until you get Windfury, then Windfury. On everything. Even fast weapons. You want WF to proc as often as possible, even for less damage, because the individual hits from WF can crit, which will trigger Shamanistic Focus, Flurry, and Unleashed Rage.

Elemental: Spec Enhancement and see above. If you're determined to level Elemental or settle on it end-game, Elemental uses Flametongue since it receives a bonus from spell damage.

Restoration: Spec Enhancement and see above.

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Will my weapon-buffing totems overwrite rockbiters, sharpening stones, or +spell dmg oils?

None of your weapon-buffing totems will affect your personal weapon buffs, whatever they may be. The same is true for your party members, so you may want to advise Rogues to remove poisons from their main-hand if they want WF, etc.

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I'm assuming a regular grind on similar-level mobs would go something like:
Lightning Shield, Buffing Totems, Lightning Bolt, Frost Shock, Lightning Bolt, Fire Totem, melee/fire shock till dead. Do i throw up lightning shields as they drop or just wait till the next fight?

If you are leveling Enhancement (which you should be) your routine will look nothing like that. Lightning Shield is a waste of mana, as is Lightning Bolt unless you're pulling with it.

1-19 is an auto-attack-fest. It's painful and boring, I won't lie to you, but thank whatever gods you happen to pray to (and go find some to pray to if you don't have any), because this stage was 1-39 before 2.3 released.

At 20 you have access to Shamanistic Focus, which is your first big DPS-boosting talent. Shocks are dirt cheap at 40% of the cost, so up-rank all your Shocks and use them only when Shamanistic Focus procs (when you crit) to save mana. Unless you expect the mob to live long enough for Flame Shock's DoT to run its full course, use Frost Shock or Earth Shock. This will persist until 39.

At 40 you have access to Stormstrike, which I recommend you pick up before Dual-Wield. SS can proc WF, so if you miss a melee swing or it doesn't proc WF, use SS afterwards if it's up to try and force a WF proc. When SF procs, use ES every time if SS's debuff is applied (20% damage increase on the next two nature spells), otherwise it's up to your discretion.

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EDIT: I'm assuming i'm looking (for enhc) at stats:
Strength > Stamina > Agility > Int = Spr, but that i dont rule any of them out completely.

Spirit is completely useless. Int is always great to have but isn't nearly as needed as it was pre-Shamanistic-Focus. Get it if you can, but don't pass up any Str, Stam, or Agi for it. For PvE leveling and DPS'ing in groups you should prioritize Str, Agi, Stam, in that order, with Int as an afterthought.

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This is pre-dual wield.

If you have any post-dual-wield questions let me know.
#6 Nov 21 2007 at 2:54 PM Rating: Decent
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jmfmb wrote:
oh well thanks GW really make me feel special and all lol, I guess it doesn't count unless he wrote it ok =P


While what you wrote was correct, and is all good advice...it's not a FAQ. I don't see how what I said insulted you. Sorry if I did, though. :(
#7 Nov 21 2007 at 10:03 PM Rating: Default
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no no i was teasing sir lol
#8 Nov 22 2007 at 11:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for all the great response! I'm looking forward to leveling my new draenei and i'll usrely take all the advice i can get.

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No they wont overwrite your weapon buffs, but i wanted to add, sharpening stones and oil do not stack with weapon buffs.

Didn't intend to use stones or oils myself, was just worried about group members with them.

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None of your weapon-buffing totems will affect your personal weapon buffs, whatever they may be. The same is true for your party members, so you may want to advise Rogues to remove poisons from their main-hand if they want WF, etc.

Didn't quite follow this. You say my totems won't affect my personal weapon buffs but WILL affect rogue poisons? I don't understand why (if that's what you are saying).

Again thanks! (ie: Using Rockbiter now, will stop considering spirit much and will know what to focus on, and the Shaministic Focus tips are very good to know!)
#9 Nov 23 2007 at 12:09 AM Rating: Decent
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I think he means that weapons can only have one temporary on-hit ability, and that your weapon-buff totems have a lower priority than poisons.

A rogue with poisoned weapons will hit with poison and ignore your WF totem.

I think.. :-\

But if I can't even keep my sentences grammatically correct, I'm probably wrong. None, and I mean none, of my characters have yet gotten any bonus from weapon buff totems. The only ones that even can aren't high enough to see them.

Edited, Nov 23rd 2007 3:11am by Ehcks
#10 Nov 23 2007 at 12:13 AM Rating: Decent
i'm an orc shaman (level 7) and my friend is a tauren hunter. can i go to mulgore and do quests with him? will i still have my quests (get my totems and all) on mulgore or do i have to stay on durotar for that??
#11 Nov 23 2007 at 9:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Ehcks wrote:
I think he means that weapons can only have one temporary on-hit ability, and that your weapon-buff totems have a lower priority than poisons.

A rogue with poisoned weapons will hit with poison and ignore your WF totem.

I think.. :-\

But if I can't even keep my sentences grammatically correct, I'm probably wrong. None, and I mean none, of my characters have yet gotten any bonus from weapon buff totems. The only ones that even can aren't high enough to see them.

That was exactly what I meant, Ehcks. ^_^

Any pre-existing buff applied directly to a weapon (sharpening stone, Rogue poisons, etc.) take priority over totem-induced weapon buffs. This includes your own buffs, which you will be thankful for as you notice that your personal version of WF is more potent than the version your totem bestows on your party.

What this means is that if you have a party member like, say, a Rogue, and he keeps complaining that he's not getting the WF buff from the totem... you need to tell him to take the poison off of his main-hand weapon.
#12 Nov 24 2007 at 6:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Ahhh. Makes sense! Thanks again for the info
#13 Nov 26 2007 at 8:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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zenthosil wrote:
i'm an orc shaman (level 7) and my friend is a tauren hunter. can i go to mulgore and do quests with him? will i still have my quests (get my totems and all) on mulgore or do i have to stay on durotar for that??


You shouldn't have any problem since Tauran can be Shaman as well so Mulgore is set up with Shaman trainers. If you were heading to the Undead or Blood Elf starting areas, you would have to return to Durotar to get your level 10 Shaman quest and for your periodic training.
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