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#1 Nov 20 2007 at 3:19 AM Rating: Decent
is "go for the throat" worth it for mm specc?
for extra dps.. i have like 28% crit and i crit alot..
was wondrin if its worth it .. plannin to switch back to mm from bm..
#2 Nov 20 2007 at 3:21 AM Rating: Decent
i mean if you were doing :

for pvp / arena / bg's

or

raid / leveling / farming
#3 Nov 20 2007 at 4:16 AM Rating: Decent
I'll say yes.
#4 Nov 20 2007 at 5:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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I’ve always played as a best mastery hunter, so I have no personal experience with that skill from a markesman perspective. But I would think it would be helpful if you have a pet with an attack such as claw or gore that has no cool down. They can attack as often as they have focus to do so. And the go for the throat skill will give them more focus each time you crit. This will allow them to do more damage in return and thus have a better chance at holding agro as well as increasing their DPS. So it should prove helpful in both solo and group play. I’d think it would at least be worth experimenting with.
#5 Nov 20 2007 at 6:16 AM Rating: Decent
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ikonz wrote:
is "go for the throat" worth it for mm specc?
It's worth it for any spec. It's cheap damage (no mana, just the Talents invested) which becomes available when you're already doing damage. It's a no-brainer if your Talent spec allows for its inclusion.
#6 Nov 20 2007 at 12:52 PM Rating: Good
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It's one of the best talents I have for my pet. Especially now that I'm on the cusp of needing the next level of growl.

As a MM spec, you're always in a fight to keep the aggro on your pet since your crits can be huge on a target and instantly pull aggro. This gets worse as you approach within a level or two of the next trainable level of growl.

By giving the pet more focus, the pet will choose to burn it in a given order. Growl will always be first on its list if it is available to use (ie: not on cooldown) next will be a CD or special attack if available. Last is the non-CD attacks, always available but may not have the focus for it.

For leveling, Morris has only Growl & Bite as combat skills. This means I always have focus available for Growl, which is critical. Nothing worse than having Growl off CD and no focus for the pet to use it... at least for an MM hunter. The gap between your shots and your pets growls determines who wins the aggro war. For levelling it must remain with your pet except for instances and other situations where you have a tank to hold aggro.

Go for the Throat keeps my pet with no less than 25% remaining focus at all times. I've never had Morris hit zero. Those crit focus bonuses are great. Without them, I'd be mob-food far more often.
#7 Nov 20 2007 at 5:54 PM Rating: Decent
I specced into it just for the smile I get whenever i see a large number appear on my screen and my pets focus bar refill 50% at the same time.

Almost like seeing a warriors rage bar or a rogues energy bar go to 50% from nothing in a second :D
#8 Nov 20 2007 at 9:26 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm a BM, and I already have 2/2 Bestial Discipline. Would it be overkill to go 2/2 in this as well, with a pet skill with no CD?
#9 Nov 20 2007 at 9:30 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm a BM, and I already have 2/2 Bestial Discipline. Would it be overkill to go 2/2 in this as well, with a pet skill with no CD?

Nope!
#10 Nov 21 2007 at 12:37 AM Rating: Decent
GftT is a critical part of my SV build, whether it's in group content or solo play. Without access to Bestial Discipline, my pet's focus bar recharges at a snail's pace. For solo content, that means I'm missing out on timely Growls, and for group content it means my pet's dps becomes almost negligible. As an SV Hunter with a 29% unbuffed crit %, my pet's focus stays in good shape throughout almost any given fight.

I actually had a Hunter come up to me a couple of days ago, inspect my talents, and then offer a critique, saying that he didn't think I needed GftT. I know this guy to be not all that bright so I simply told him that, "Ya, I need it."

My pet's dps accounts for easily 20% of my overall dps. That's a very significant number, and most of that damage comes from dps abilities on auto-cast. In other words, that's 2 talent points that translate to a 20%+ increase in my overall damage, and you just can't beat that.
#11 Nov 21 2007 at 12:48 AM Rating: Decent
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My pet's dps accounts for easily 20% of my overall dps. That's a very significant number, and most of that damage comes from dps abilities on auto-cast. In other words, that's 2 talent points that translate to a 20%+ increase in my overall damage, and you just can't beat that.

GftT adds to your pet's dps a great amount, but does not encompass all of it. I'm being nitpicky here, but GftT is 2 talent points that possibly translates to a 10ish% increase to your overall dmg, as the yellow numbers from your pet probably triple due to an SV hunter's crits (ie: without GftT, your pet would do 10%. With GftT, your pet would do 20%)

As any spec hunter, your crit is plenty high to warrant GftT. It's a great talent in soloing (growls and threat), grouping (dps that will never pull aggro), and pvp (SAFE=constant dps or more protection for your viper sting if you grabbed a scorpid).

Edited, Nov 21st 2007 3:54am by DukyFrodo
#12 Nov 21 2007 at 5:42 AM Rating: Decent
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DukyFrodo wrote:
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I'm a BM, and I already have 2/2 Bestial Discipline. Would it be overkill to go 2/2 in this as well, with a pet skill with no CD?

Nope!
better yet, bestial discipline is the first thing you'll drop at endgame ;) (say at around 30%+ unbuffed crit bestial discipline becomes unnessecary)
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