Tanked Mechanar a couple of days ago. Had another warrior in my group.
I marked the mobs, pulled the enemies, but the other warrior kept charging the skull (main target).
I told her to stop it since I'd rather not stun it before I can build rage and aggro, and it seemed unnecessary to me to change targets, get my rage, then pull aggro from the skull after that. The other warrior just said: "Taunt, sunder, thunder clap, shield bash."
Was I wrong to tell her to stop? Cos she didnt and it was kind of annoying throughout.
- Harryplopper
PS: On a similar note, is there an in-game function or an addon which allows me to fast-switch between marked enemies?
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No, I'd say you were right. In 90% of situations the DPS should wait until the mob has hit you before they touch it. The taunt should be used to save people (the healer in particular, if that happens).
It does, however, make you a bit faster on your feet to have to account for the DPS being stupid like that. But at the same time you can just refuse to deal with it and let him tank the mob he charged and focus on the other ones.
It does, however, make you a bit faster on your feet to have to account for the DPS being stupid like that. But at the same time you can just refuse to deal with it and let him tank the mob he charged and focus on the other ones.
Right click the other warriors health bar and "Uninvite" and go back to the LFG channel. Might be a little harsh but I've been so sick of PUG groups who won't listen and do their jobs.
Or let them die. Send a /t to the healer and tell them not to heal the other person and let them die. Sure you might all wipe if you lose the DPS but then you can blame them. Might stop if they are the cause of wipes. If not "Uninvite"....
Or let them die. Send a /t to the healer and tell them not to heal the other person and let them die. Sure you might all wipe if you lose the DPS but then you can blame them. Might stop if they are the cause of wipes. If not "Uninvite"....
I agree with everyone up above, the warrior should have been dealt with and kicked.
To answer your other question, the "tab" button will cycle through the mobs, marked or not.
To answer your other question, the "tab" button will cycle through the mobs, marked or not.
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Well, just ask how how he can be so ignorant to thikn that 21 of his rage is more iportent than you rage and ability to build up aggro. also you could point out that if this was a good pull to charge on you would have done it yourself.
But you should always assume that a person know how to play their own class/specc better than you and ask for an explaination. If they don't quit doing wring or give you a good answer on why they are doing it you should just kick him. the worst thing that can happen is that he forgives you and decides that he wouldn't mind doing an instance with you again.
hehe, and in that perticular situation i would prolly dis her for suggesting to use sunder, explain exatly why it suck so hard and that she don't have an idea of what she is doing before i kick her. ^^
But you should always assume that a person know how to play their own class/specc better than you and ask for an explaination. If they don't quit doing wring or give you a good answer on why they are doing it you should just kick him. the worst thing that can happen is that he forgives you and decides that he wouldn't mind doing an instance with you again.
hehe, and in that perticular situation i would prolly dis her for suggesting to use sunder, explain exatly why it suck so hard and that she don't have an idea of what she is doing before i kick her. ^^
In the end I just gave her up and let her die, yeah. She got pissed, but I said I didnt care anymore.
I'll kick her next time then :)
When I tank, I like to be in charge of the group.
I'll kick her next time then :)
When I tank, I like to be in charge of the group.
I always charged when I was a DW Fury Warrior. HOWEVER, I stood back with the healer, and waited until the tank hit the mob. Nothing wrong with stunning for mob briefly, and getting rage to boot. Sounds like the other Warrior had the right idea... but pulled the trigger a bit soon.
I always helped out the other Warrior. I'd Demo. shout and Battle shout, He'd T. clap and Commanding shout.
If he was taking hate off you right off the bat, I'd would have said something also. Last night in Heroic A. Crypts I had a Warlock that would AoE at the start of every fight. Well he died, died, died (even with Challenging shout). Even after I mentioned it, he still did it. Oy.
Apparently he thought I was a Pally/Warrior mixture.
I always helped out the other Warrior. I'd Demo. shout and Battle shout, He'd T. clap and Commanding shout.
If he was taking hate off you right off the bat, I'd would have said something also. Last night in Heroic A. Crypts I had a Warlock that would AoE at the start of every fight. Well he died, died, died (even with Challenging shout). Even after I mentioned it, he still did it. Oy.
Apparently he thought I was a Pally/Warrior mixture.rogues... warriors... felgaurds/ anything with a stun gets right on my nerves if they use it straight away, i end up shouting at people immediate after the pull, i'm the kind of person that likes to ***** whip people into shape early and have a nicer run because of it, it normally works, theres times when i've been on the edge of my patience and they've suddenly realised what i'm going on about.
I've never actually kicked anyone for it, they normally listen, only thing i've kicked people is going randomly inactive for too long without any reason, or using dinner as a reason but not giving an apology (sometimes I will happily wait, if there nice about it and don't just say "Dinner BRB")
Maybe i'm easily frustrated, but I dont have the patience or the urge to spend the whole instance run running off in opposite directs chasing mobs down and leaving the healer open for attacking because i don't have enough time to sustain threat.
So what i'm saying, your right, in most situations it comes down the tanks preference, if they disagree with you and continue to do so, ask them the simple question "Do you want to find another tank? Because i'll have no trouble finding another goup" normally works, no group likes finding a tank.
I've never actually kicked anyone for it, they normally listen, only thing i've kicked people is going randomly inactive for too long without any reason, or using dinner as a reason but not giving an apology (sometimes I will happily wait, if there nice about it and don't just say "Dinner BRB")
Maybe i'm easily frustrated, but I dont have the patience or the urge to spend the whole instance run running off in opposite directs chasing mobs down and leaving the healer open for attacking because i don't have enough time to sustain threat.
So what i'm saying, your right, in most situations it comes down the tanks preference, if they disagree with you and continue to do so, ask them the simple question "Do you want to find another tank? Because i'll have no trouble finding another goup" normally works, no group likes finding a tank.
I generally charge when I'm dpsing pulls. I'll wait back, then when the mobs get in range I'll stun them. Last time I did a run like this was Steamvaults last night with a pally tank. We cleared it in 34 minutes with no wipes and I had a 40 silver repair bill and I was pushing 500 dps so I had to have been doing something right. I wouldn't play like that with a warrior tank though.
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I must be slightly confused. I played a rogue to 70 and just recently rolled a war. I would always cheap shot at the beggining of a fight for the extra combo points it gives... and i thought the stun was useful. Does stunning somehow decrease the amount of hate generated?
DISCLAIMER: please dont flame me, as i said, i just recently rolled war and am only 13. Therefore, i have not had an oppurtunity to tank any groups yet.
DISCLAIMER: please dont flame me, as i said, i just recently rolled war and am only 13. Therefore, i have not had an oppurtunity to tank any groups yet.
Yes, a stunned mob cannot attack the warrior, which means no rage generated from being attacked. No Rage Generation = No Aggro = Potential Wipe.
Just like the rogues that are straight out PvP'ers but decide to PvE for a while and go "Lulz im gonna permastun for teh winz u dont get hit LOL!!!" 10 secs later "OMG HEAL HEAL HEAL WTF HEALR U SUCKZ I DPS PRO NUB IMA GO USE TWINKZ NOW LULZ CYA /hearthstone"
Yup, at the minimum sight of what I like to refer to as a "Stunnus-Brutus" you should kick him out of the group, have everyone ignore him, aquire fetal positions in a corner, and wait untill he gets tele'd out of the instance, then proceed to wipe the horror tears off your faces, and continue with the group (Preferably inviting a warlock! Yayzor! :D)
Yup, at the minimum sight of what I like to refer to as a "Stunnus-Brutus" you should kick him out of the group, have everyone ignore him, aquire fetal positions in a corner, and wait untill he gets tele'd out of the instance, then proceed to wipe the horror tears off your faces, and continue with the group (Preferably inviting a warlock! Yayzor! :D)
If I'm not wrong, there is a small window of a few seconds after the fight starts for you to go into combat. That means you can't charge. I think that's what the warrior was thinking. She would take the opportunity to get that extra rage before she can't.
I usually wait till at least a T.Clap or Sunder before I charge (more sunders if it's a boss). If I go into combat, I'll just switch to Beserker Stance, Bloodrage and Intercept. Most of my time is spent in beserker stance when I dps anyways.
I would only charge ahead of the tank if I'm over equipped or over leveled for that instance (eg: Ramps, BF, Old world instances, etc).
Anyways, a warrior who charges before the tank gets hate is either over-confident or a player who does not understand the importance of the tank getting hit.
I usually wait till at least a T.Clap or Sunder before I charge (more sunders if it's a boss). If I go into combat, I'll just switch to Beserker Stance, Bloodrage and Intercept. Most of my time is spent in beserker stance when I dps anyways.
I would only charge ahead of the tank if I'm over equipped or over leveled for that instance (eg: Ramps, BF, Old world instances, etc).
Anyways, a warrior who charges before the tank gets hate is either over-confident or a player who does not understand the importance of the tank getting hit.
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