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#1 Nov 17 2007 at 7:28 AM Rating: Decent
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At least for me.

I am trying to get geared as best as I can for Kara. I find it so difficult to stack damage and crit while also having a lot of spell hit. It just seems to me that every upgrade I (can) find is for crit and damage, making me lose a lot of spell hit.

For example I replaced my Crimson Robe (30spell hit) with the Will of Edward, if I get the HH reward, another 14 SH gone, if I get in a couple of days the Flametongue seal, another 12 spell hit gone, if I will get the Icon of the SC, it will replace either 32 spell hit from the bloodgem or 26 crit from the Vengeance of Ilidari, .. And so on. I will not have enough gem slots left to use to compensate the loss of spell hit. Smiley: frown Whats the minimum advisable spell hit to have if reaching the cap is not possible?

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Hellfire&n=Ardentia

How did you manage with this? Any examples(armory links) of successful pre-Kara, Kara and after-Kara setups of balanced high damage and spell hit and nice crit?

Yes I dont have tailoring and Im not planning too.
And yes my rating sucks, my first and last hour of arena with a resto druid.




Edited, Nov 17th 2007 10:28am by Amaiya
#2 Nov 17 2007 at 8:33 AM Rating: Decent
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I guess I have to get the Spellstrike set made afterwall. Buhbye epic flyer /sigh
#3 Nov 17 2007 at 10:21 AM Rating: Good
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I'm doing just fine on spell hit without Spellfire or Spellstrike. http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dalaran&n=Poldaran

That's post Kara gear for the most part(and I know the gems in my boots suck, but I had to come up with some blues to make my meta gem work and those were 10g each Smiley: tongue ). I'd actually suggest you hold off on the Icon of the Silver Crescent if you can find time to run either Arca or Heroic SP. Both end bosses drop a trinket that's worth not getting the icon so you can save for your other nifty new badge loot. The pants from badges alone will allow a fairly nice stack of spell hit from gems, iirc.

Honestly, I would have stuck with the Robe of the Crimson Order for the spell hit since you didn't already have Will of Edward the Odd(mine was a drop in an instance that the group told me to equip). Additionally, consider getting 2 pieces of Mana Etched(Heroic SP has both Quag's eye and one piece of Mana Etched, iirc) for the 2 piece set bonus. That's another load of spell hit to have. Now, I know you're looking for a balance, but trust me, get your spell hit first, the rest of the balance will come in time.

Both your bracers and your pants have a slot where you can socket another +hit gem. I'd say do that. And spell hit to gloves. It's actually a cheaper enchant than spell damage. Preferably on some Mana Etched gloves with the hat to match. Oh, and since you're revered with the Sha'tar, there's a somewhat better trinket than your Vengeance of the Illidari you can get from them.

I balance my gear by roughly estimating and equating one point of each stat and mathing it out. That site I linked the other day will give a fair approximation of it all.

edit: not EU, dammit Poldaran, pay attention.

Edited, Nov 17th 2007 11:28am by Poldaran
#4 Nov 17 2007 at 10:28 AM Rating: Good
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Oh, and I know you have your spell hit now, but if you make those changes I suggested, it's a lot easier to get other upgrades without batting an eye.
#5 Nov 17 2007 at 6:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Just keep in mind, hit > damage > crit. So with that in mind, the HH sword is still an upgrade, because its epic and gives an extra 40 spell damage at the tradeoff of 16 hit. Your OH has 12 hit, so by swapping those 2 pieces with big damage upgrades, you lose 28 hit. You could gem 2 hit gems for 16, and if you wanted replace your glove enchant with hit, BUT

I would replace your helm to be honest, something with an extra gem slot and preferably a meta socket. I just got 2 piece mana etched and that made me happy, +35 hit bonus for the 2 set. I got the crown in regular black morass, and the pants in heroic UB, but I've been trying to run SP like Poldaran said.

I would replace your crit trinket with the icon, its a really nice trinket. If you don't want to lose as much hit, I would strongly suggest the Gladiator's spellblade. Its going to be 27,000 honor, which is alot so I understand if you don't want it. But it has spell hit, and 200 spell damage, its really nice.

And you're close on CE rep, theres a nice spell hit ring which could replace your horsemen ring, I reckon 3.5 clears will put you at exalted there, or maybe 3 heroic SP runs.
#6 Nov 19 2007 at 7:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for the advice.

Im gonna go with the Mana Etched 2 pieces, head and shoulders more exactly. The head piece because I absolutely love the design! Smiley: grin It has an exra gem slot too, its not very bad. Im picking the shoulders because they have gem slots and they seem to be able to last longer, so I will keep longer the 2 piece set bonus. Gloves and pants can be replaced earlier either from Kara or heroics or badge rewards.

Im gonna work towards the HH sword, still a lot to go. Ill see about that CE ring too and the trinkets. Lots to improve yet.

Do you guys think its the right moment to go 10/43/3 now? Or should I wait a little longer to up my damage some more? Im not sure how much damage and crit Im gonna lose if I drop the support of the arcane tree now.

(the armory didn update yet but I got the Flametongue Seal offhand yesterday)
#7 Nov 19 2007 at 8:18 AM Rating: Good
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Amaiya the Tulip wrote:
Do you guys think its the right moment to go 10/43/3 now? Or should I wait a little longer to up my damage some more? Im not sure how much damage and crit Im gonna lose if I drop the support of the arcane tree now.


You should be alright going 10/48/3 now(you'll actually gain a bit of crit, iirc, though that could just be the Nyquil talking). And you'll be free to drop even more hit since you'll have the 3% from elemental precision.

And grats on your new offhand.
#8 Nov 19 2007 at 5:55 PM Rating: Decent
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I think you are good to go. You can also take thinking getting fancy trinkets like Nexus horn and quag eye. I normally swap out eye and use bloodgem if I want the hit. Its a crutch trinket I have to admit but I just hate seeing so much partial resists even from crits.

You can also go crazy with these at threat less fights. Aran is one such place where its advisable to go in in full glory and continue the whole fight that way.

I did this at lurker last nite combust before pull, hit trinket at pull and just go crazy. When u cannot pull aggro as range its a free ticket to pound as hard as you can. The raid will thank you for it.
#9 Nov 19 2007 at 8:52 PM Rating: Decent
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I think you are good to go. You can also take thinking getting fancy trinkets like Nexus horn and quag eye. I normally swap out eye and use bloodgem if I want the hit. Its a crutch trinket I have to admit but I just hate seeing so much partial resists even from crits.

You can also go crazy with these at threat less fights. Aran is one such place where its advisable to go in in full glory and continue the whole fight that way.

I did this at lurker last nite combust before pull, hit trinket at pull and just go crazy. When u cannot pull aggro as range its a free ticket to pound as hard as you can. The raid will thank you for it.


I got the lesser spellhit trinket from killing the elite mob in netherstorm (+26 spell hit) because I am not a scryer [yet]. But I plan to get either icon or if I am lucky the shrunken hex head in ZA (+53 damage, good god!)
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