Lightning Overlord makes a return? for the good?Follow

i'm hearing from many end-game shaman that if geared correctly lightning overlord can actually boost your DPS now, is it worth putting my next five points into it now that i have NS?

*runs to refund talent points*

What enhancement using windfury? thats stupid, everyone knows that rock bitter on main-hand and frost brand on off-hand is the pwn for enhancement ...-end sarcasm

but ive noticed that the so called "20% prot rate of LO is more like 10%"
but yesterday while doing dailys in hellfire i was still 65 and i beat a 70 tailor geared mage by getting like 4 LO prots in a row, while 1/2 of them crit. I like to call this the shammy machine gun.. and for noted reason =P

edit : Also is there any stat that can increase the effectiveness of LO prots?

Edited, Nov 18th 2007 9:49am by Draeneipally

That's how % proc chances work, windfury is the same, sometimes you'll run around for ages without a proc, then sometimes you'll have 4 back to back. Each time you fire a LB or CL it has the same 20% chance to proc LO.



Isn't this obvious? The same stats that increase the effectiveness of your spells, spell damage and spell crit.

Ah, I was wondering if they have removed that stupid 3sec CD that was implemented in the PTR. I see they have it removed.

Last I knew, totems that benefit the party never stack.

The totems stack I have done it several times in many heroic groups with other shaman and raid kara with another elemental shaman often. I know it does because it changes the character sheet I see my crit go up by 6%

Healing stream also stacks, and technically so does grounding.

Personally tho I think all totems should stack lol, but hey blizzard thinks otherwise apparently, well except with the exception of the three I listed.

Edited, Nov 19th 2007 10:33am by jmfmb

If you are referring to WF then no, the 3 sec CD is still in place. When I refer to getting back to back procs it's in PvP with a 2 hander (so slower than 3.0).



Agreed, the changes make LO necessary for Elemental viability (even for non-raiders) which seems a little unfair to me. I understand a high end talent being necessary for a specific role (eg ToW for raiding) but to have something that deep in the tree that is basically compulsory for any role really limits Elemental flexibility. Blizz should perhaps have buffed LO a little less (say 10% proc) and left the coefficients/cast times on LB/CL the way they were.

Anyway it's done now and we'll have to make the most of it. In 6 months 90% of Shammy's won't even remember it was ever different.

No not windfury. Lightning overload. I read on the PTR O boards before 2.3 that there was a 3 sec CD for LO. To prevent LO proccing off LO or some such ****, it actually reduced the proc rate from 20% to around 13-15%(i think) if one were spamming lightning bolts.

Looks like they wisened up & decided to take it off. Instead make it so that LO never procs off LO. Which is waaaay better than the 3 sec CD.

I thought LO could proc off itself but i may be wrong sometimes i cant tell i am throwing out so many LBs and CL all over the place, and lightning capicitator adds to the confusion lol.

I guess i could but i get too excited whaching all those LB fly everywhere, I just think to myself "Awesome"

Cant get NS and ToW, not enough talents to go around unfortunately.