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#1 Nov 16 2007 at 8:28 AM Rating: Decent
So I was on a RP server the other day with a lock i started and when i got to the AH another lock asked me if i wanted a wand. I didn't have one on at the time because i was only level 16 and had not come across one yet.

So he asked me why I didn't use one. I was in the middle of typing my response about DoT rotation and life tap, drain life cycle when i got another one from him asking if I could even kill something my level and if I could even survive in the Ghostlands. So I finished my spell rotation cycle message and sent it to him and then a message that of course i could survive there.

Not five minutes after i got back to the Ghostlands to quest and grind I see 3 different locks using wands after sending in there VW. So am I wrong in the way i use my lock. I always just cast Syphon life(spelling) after i sent my VW after the mob. Then i use CoA, Corruption, life tap, life tap, then drain life till dead.
#2 Nov 16 2007 at 8:53 AM Rating: Decent
Imo you should cast CoA first *shrugs*. Other than that, you're effectively drain-hunting, which is a very viable tactic. You usually don't see it in locks until they have some points in fel-concentration, because you won't have to worry about pulling aggro. Still, everything about locks is play-style, so go with what works for you :)
#3 Nov 16 2007 at 9:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Ovelia is right, your personal choice(s) should influence your playstyle. However you want to do it, do it.

But, a kind word for the wand. I find they add considerably to overall damage output, as does drain life, but they do so without any kind of mana cost and they work just fine at "point blank" range...like a melee weapon. Two solid advantages, in my opinion.
#4 Nov 16 2007 at 10:00 AM Rating: Decent
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afliction spec, dot + drain tanking is the fastest and imo, the funnest way of leveling. the 'sit behind the VW, dot + wand' method is the safe method and works pretty well too, but it has its down sides while afliction doesn't. especially after you get siphon life and curse of exaustion.
#5 Nov 16 2007 at 10:05 AM Rating: Decent
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afliction spec, dot + drain tanking is the fastest and imo, the funnest way of leveling. the 'sit behind the VW, dot + wand' method is the safe method and works pretty well too, but it has its down sides while afliction doesn't.

Agree. Drain tanking is fun and fast, drain hunting is slower and safer, but imo too slow. My wand skill on my lock is abysmal because I never use it, and will probably remain that way until I get to Dr. Boom and have an afk wand-leveling session :D
#6 Nov 16 2007 at 12:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Wand? What's that? Do you mean that little stick with stats on it? I can shoot stuff with that?
#7 Nov 16 2007 at 1:29 PM Rating: Default
I personally use a wand. Once you level up into the higher levels the wands that drop have some pretty decent +spell, +intellect and other goodie stats. They are also FANTASTIC to have when OOM and in sticky situations where LT might not be a good idea. Definately comparable to going up and tapping them with your staff or whatever you may have equipped in your main hand. Its also great because its a held in off hand weapon so you can still equip w/ whatever weapon you are sporting and get stats from both! :D

Edited, Nov 16th 2007 1:29pm by Catastrophie
#8 Nov 16 2007 at 2:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Its also great because its a held in off hand weapon so you can still equip w/ whatever weapon you are sporting and get stats from both!


Ummm, not it isn't. It's a Ranged Weapon and goes in the ranged spot. So you can actually have a One Hand Weapon, a Held In Off Hand Item and a Wand.

Doesn't change the fact there is almost never a reason to use your wand(or your staff/dagger/sword) after about level 6.
#9 Nov 16 2007 at 2:46 PM Rating: Default
Just something that caught my sight...

Ariciant wrote:
...because i was only level 16 and had not...

... I always cast Syphon life(spelling) after i sent...


Maybe you thought of a different spell... but if you found out how to get siphon life with 7 talent points, please do tell.
#10 Nov 16 2007 at 5:39 PM Rating: Decent
Gilzak wrote:
But, a kind word for the wand. I find they add considerably to overall damage output, as does drain life, but they do so without any kind of mana cost and they work just fine at "point blank" range...like a melee weapon. Two solid advantages, in my opinion.

I hate to disagree with you, but...

  1. Wands do less damage than spells.
  2. Wands are useful if you don't know how to use Life Tap to keep your mana bar full.
  3. The best use for wands is for any stats they give you.
  4. The second best use for a wand is as a finisher when a single hit from the wand will kill (why use mana on overkill?) If it takes more than one, you should have used a spell.
  5. If you are too low level to have both Life Tap and Drain Life, then wands are for you.
#11 Nov 16 2007 at 5:41 PM Rating: Decent
Gilzak wrote:
But, a kind word for the wand. I find they add considerably to overall damage output, as does drain life, but they do so without any kind of mana cost and they work just fine at "point blank" range...like a melee weapon. Two solid advantages, in my opinion.

I hate to disagree with you, but...

  1. Wands do less damage than spells.
  2. Wands are useful if you don't know how to use Life Tap to keep your mana bar full.
  3. The best use for wands is for any stats they give you.
  4. The second best use for a wand is as a finisher when a single hit from the wand will kill (why use mana on overkill?) If it takes more than one, you should have used a spell.
  5. If you are too low level to have both Life Tap and Drain Life, then wands are for you.
#12 Nov 16 2007 at 5:49 PM Rating: Decent
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for leveling 1-60, you're likely to find that your firestone is the best choice as it'll increase your immolate dot damage a bit and you're very unlikely to find a wand with any stats or damage pre-60
#13 Nov 17 2007 at 12:10 AM Rating: Decent
I think I used my wand up to 25.

Send VW, DoT, wand. Yes, it was slow. Jen up there, he hates wasting time. :o)
#14 Nov 17 2007 at 12:13 AM Rating: Decent
Mike, you missed a wand use. It can't be reflected. It's really the only time I use it because if 1 shot from a wand will kill it I put up Siphon Life and get my mana back. Wands are stat-sticks.
#15 Nov 17 2007 at 4:45 AM Rating: Decent
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oh don't worry inop. when i leveled my lock i used my VW to tank everything, chucked on a few dots and then wanded, but i didn't really know how to play locks back then. i'm leveling a horde lock now so i'm doing this one as afliction and it is SOOOO much faster this time. also i actually realise how good +damage is now ^^
#16 Nov 17 2007 at 6:46 AM Rating: Decent
Welcome to the dark side. :o)

It's a viable tactic up to 20 I think.

I have no idea what Affliction is like at low level, if you say it's faster, I'll take your word for it.

I'm thinking of respeccing for Aff now I'm 70, but it's very worrying to me to not have my FG tank the hell out of everything in front of me!
#17 Nov 17 2007 at 6:51 AM Rating: Decent
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afliction isn't reliant on pets other than for the mana, so it's fast and exciting due to constantly taking loads of damage, while draining as much back and then when needed, you do your iHoT to get some breathing space :)
#18 Nov 17 2007 at 9:25 AM Rating: Decent
Jenovaomega wrote:
for leveling 1-60, you're likely to find that your firestone is the best choice as it'll increase your immolate dot damage a bit and you're very unlikely to find a wand with any stats or damage pre-60

I used [wowitem=13064]Jaina's Firestarter[/wowitem] from about L40 up to L60, when I got something better. There always seem to be a few of them on the AH, so it's not hard to get, as long as you're willing to part with about 50G. It will last long enough (20 levels) that the cost comes down to only a few gold/level used - in other words, it's a bargain. [wowitem=10766]Plaguerot Sprig[/wowitem] is BoP, but it's a fairly common drop off a boss in Razorfen Downs.

Edited, Nov 17th 2007 9:32am by ohmikeghod
#19 Nov 17 2007 at 9:30 AM Rating: Decent
Yes i was wrong with syphon life, I was thinking about my 39 lock. The rotation on my low level is CoA, Corruption, Immolate, the Life tap, Life tap, Drain life. Sorry about that.
#20 Nov 17 2007 at 10:57 AM Rating: Decent
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mike. plaguerot is a mage only wand that's quested :P also the reason why i'd use a firestone over a a stat wand is that i've learnt that regardless of level. +damage speeds up leveling so much more than stats. i do have a wand on a quick switch macro though so i can switch in my firestone for whenever i cast firespells and otherwise i use my wand for damage.
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